Just goes to show you can't a good capitalist down! :clapping:
Just look at Honda. Everyone bitches about their lack of product or the product becoming more and more scooter-like. Now, just why do you think that is? Easy. They've seen the future in the regulatory crystal ball and are preparing for it now.
They are not going singularly after motorcycles. The regulate all motor vehicles. They've gone after the main automotive industry, the aftermarket AI, custom hotrod builders, grey imports, etc, etc, etc. So there is history and precedent.
The company that made the equipment sold their product in a state that specifically prohibits certain modifications to the emissions systems. This is the point. If they knowingly did sell these units, then they are at fault.The company that made the equipment should not get fined though. The individual who actually installed the unit should be fined, since the unit itself does not automatically change the emissions (0 map).
It's almost like fining yamaha with speeding fines, because I went to fast on the FJR.
Same thing as how all you hippies can sell water pipes in a head shop as long as they don't call it a bong!
True to a point. There have been a couple of instances where Johnny Law has cited folks with aftermarket pipes. There will come a time when you'll get tagged for nothing more than non-OEM pipes on a regular basis.
1.) Motorcyclists remind me of the hotrodders of the '50s &'60s...those who are willing to modify their vehicles for perfomance or just for fun.Hmmmmm! Mad Mike, I think we should suggest to the CARB that they should fine the distributer who sells this unlawful device to the unsuspecting public.
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And from the original source it looks like Dyonjet accepted the fine as is. They didn't contest it and I'm sure they had various options to do it.
So, all the banter about how they should fight it or do x or y is supposition at this point. I'm sure there's more to the story on their rationale, but Dynojet has decided to move on. It will probably make the older Power Commanders hold their value on the secondary market.
I'll bet they won't send them to a California mailing address and maybe not to anyone with a California billing address.
This kind of thing is nothing new for California and it goes way beyond motor vehicles. There's a long list of things banned in this state. I don't have a PC nor do I want one. But if I did, thank god for out of state friends and family!
Exactly. Businesses running older, non-compliant diesel engines in equipment in California are selling that equipment to buyers in other states or into Mexico now. Problem is that to make them compliant with Calif. emissions standards is often so much more expensive than the equipment is worth that selling the stuff out of the state is the only expedient and fiscally prudent alternative. I have a client that just got rid of an old backhoe for that reason. I can't remember when the compliance date is, but it either occurred on the first of this year or is upcoming soon.
So what you're saying is; skooter can finally find employment as a freight forwarding engineer? :lol:
Not necessarily. Don't assume high mileage automatically equals reduced emissions. It's actually also related to extra emissions equipment and other standards. According to the EPA motorcycles emit more pollution per mile than cars even some SUVs. Clicky here.
A $1M fine is going to be noticed by even the largest business my friend. And one can imagine that the $1M was a compromise of a much more onerous and expensive option. This is the stick side of things and has quite an effect on business plans for future sales. My god, it's already consumed 4 pages on a thread by us...who haven't been actually affected in anyway! You can bet Dyonjet and it's peers are taking notice. This seems a well orchestrated thwack with a stick.
I don't know specifically...you're going to have to research it. However, I've generally found that fines levied by any regulation agency aren't usually of the level to be self-supporting....meaning these agencies don't levy fines to fill their own coffers.....unless you listen to the trolls in The Dungeon.
Doubtful. This is what liability insurance is for. (It's highly unlikley that this fine will have any impact whatsoever on DynoJet's prices as some have suggested.) If any scrambling is being done, it's by DynoJet's insurance carrier.
What Iggy said mostly, except for the last question of yours. Floods, mudslides and fires are not, for the most part, man-made. They have always existed to an extent. Smog is much improved over what it was even 10 years ago, much do in part to the actions of CARB, however strict or ridiculous their judgments may seem.
Now there's a reliable source :lol:
As opposed to an anonymous individual as a source on the Internet?
