I don't have the Muzzy system (yet), but their web site says that you can replace the core by drilling out the rivets that hold the end on the can, then change the core and pop in new rivets when you're done.(snip)Can you order the core and do this at home or has does the can have to be shipped to Muzzy ?
Thx for the info SB !
That's what I plan to do. I expect that it will not yield the maximum performance that is possible from the Muzzy but should work just fine.(snip)Whatcha think about running the 4-1 without adding a PC? Will the FI compensate enough or will it run too lean?
dougc
I have the map for the Muzzy full system for '06. Send me a PM w/ your e-mail and I will forward it.I pulled the trigger pretty early on both the Muzzy 4-2-1 Ti and the PCIII. Now all I need to do is find the map for that combo. Anyone got any leads?
Thank you for that tidbit! I'll be checking on that with Muzzy, and Partmonster has agreed to keep my early GB order on hold for a few days until I have a chance to confirm availability from Muzzy (work is taking too much of my time right now). If anyone already has the specifics, please post it up, or I will when I find out. BTW -- Partmonster also asked me to let them know what I find out.If you really wanted it, you could buy the quite core directly from Muzzy and have it installed.
It's fairly simple to do.
+10I've participated in group buys for years; long before the FJR ever hit the US shores (or was even a product). I have never seen the level of complaining as I have in the FJR community. It's no wonder Dale quit posting about ANY gb's over on the UK forum. I hope he doesn't consider stopping them completely for this forum too. It's a hassle to set up a GB in the first place. It's demoralizing to be working on it and have people piss and moan when they have no real intention of participating anyway.
If you don't want to participate, don't.
If you want something different, get off your ass and start a GB that's to your liking and see if anyone else is interested.
There's never a need to rain a **** storm down on a GB. NEVER!
Are these guys (Muzzy) on drugs? It seems they have put some significant thought into their product initially (one of the few with a full FJR system) but then the whole thing goes to **** when they are called on to send the right part, quote a price, give a refund, modify something, etc... i.e., when asked to use some common sense.I installed the full Muzzy on my '05. I re-used the gaskets for the header (big rings of something that looks like a brass alloy) and no other gaskets are required.
I ordered the quiet core and received a perforated pipe with packing wrapped around it that is exactly the same as what was already in my muffler. I didn't look carefully enough at the end where the core was attached to see if it is welded. I have the round aluminum muffler which uses rivets to hold it together.
Please let us know what the 'quiet core' looks like when you get yours. Perhaps they sent me the wrong part.
Yeah, I know -- I ordered 8, and 4 for the Blackbird while I was at it. I put in new gaskets when I change out the headers. This way I have a fresh set for both bikes. (XX already has 4-2-1 with OEM header in storage, and FJR soon to be the same.)I installed the full Muzzy on my '05. I re-used the gaskets for the header (big rings of something that looks like a brass alloy) and no other gaskets are required.
The way it's been described to me is that you need to look into the core from the back, and the quiet core has a restrictor that is a smaller diameter than the rest of the core (and maybe that for half of the length of it or so, the quiet core assembly has some sort of cone leading to or from that restrictor). I'd love to see a picture of both cores, but it's a pain in the ass to get any info out of Muzzy sales. When mine finally arrives, I'll take the can apart and photograph the whole mess. Unfortunately, that may be as long as a month away.I ordered the quiet core and received a perforated pipe with packing wrapped around it that is exactly the same as what was already in my muffler. I didn't look carefully enough at the end where the core was attached to see if it is welded. I have the round aluminum muffler which uses rivets to hold it together.
Please let us know what the 'quiet core' looks like when you get yours. Perhaps they sent me the wrong part.
I hear ya on ALL of that. Given their attitude, and the discussion here, though, I've pretty much decided that the fastest way to a fix, with the least headaches and maybe even the cheapest route at the end of the day (certainly if I'm including the cost of my time) is to see if it drags for me with the suspension raised a bit and dialed as best as possible, and then have someone competent fix the dragging center pipe once and for all. If I'd bought directly from Muzzy, I'd be a lot more likely to send it back like you did.I think Muzzy knows that they have a "pig in a poke" w/ their system for the FJR. From my dealings w/ them, it seems like they are sick of dealing w/ the FJR. I got comments like"You know this isn't a sportbike" and "parts touching is part of performance riding". Yeah...OK...
It's a shame that their system is flawed because the performance increase is very desireable. I'm just not willing to have to significantly modify a $750.00 exhaust system to make it safe. That's their job IMHO...
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