Finally got my new Yamaha

[newsantafe]

I have the service manual, and EVERY tool to work on this bike. (Service manager at a Yamaha shop), so I plan on doing a couple of things. 1st another TBS, then I plan on using the "sniffer" to see if it is running lean or rich. Then I will adjust the computer accordingly,and another TBS, and then go out for a ride.My 4000 mile is coming up real fast, so I hope one night after work this week to do this work. I will let you know what happens. I agree as far as the overall power goes, This bike feels pretty darn good. I just want to see if I can lake it run just a little better

 

[TheRepairMan]

I have the service manual, and EVERY tool to work on this bike. (Service manager at a Yamaha shop), so I plan on doing a couple of things. 1st another TBS, then I plan on using the "sniffer" to see if it is running lean or rich. Then I will adjust the computer accordingly,and another TBS, and then go out for a ride.My 4000 mile is coming up real fast, so I hope one night after work this week to do this work. I will let you know what happens. I agree as far as the overall power goes, This bike feels pretty darn good. I just want to see if I can lake it run just a little better

newsantafe,

Does the service manual cover any information after entering the digital display's diagnostic mode that would allow you to enable the CO% adjustments?

Roger B)

 

[newsantafe]

It has information on how to do it. So I will be using the sniffer before I adjust, and after to see how much it works. My last resort will be to buy a power commander, and use that.

 

[TheRepairMan]

It has information on how to do it. So I will be using the sniffer before I adjust, and after to see how much it works. My last resort will be to buy a power commander, and use that.

Okay ...Cool! ...but, my next question is, where do you sample the exhaust and if it's at each cylinder individually do you go into the diagnostic mode and digitally adjust the mixture on each cylinder?

I really need to know the answer specifically before I try a throttle body sync as making changes to them would affect the outcome of the correct mixture per cylinder based on the factory CO% settings ...right?.

In that case I'd be better off leaving it all alone until my Yamaha tech can assist.

All I would be after is to smooth up the idle a bit and make the engine run at it's optimum level of efficiency.

Roger B)

 

[newsantafe]

You are right- I will onlybe able to check at the exhaust- But in my mind it will be better than nothing. As far as a TBS, I want to make sure all four FI units are working at their best- I know it makesa HUGE difference on my FJR. Now as far as working the map- I plan on adjusting the FI at low mid and high RPM. I will take the readings from the diagnostic mode, and use the Tech manual to raise or lower the values on each cylinder- The goal will be to raise each cylinder the same amount, and then do another sniff and TBS. To be honest I doubt if this will be some huge jump in performance, the goal is to have the FZ run as good as I can get, and to learn in the process. I have all of the tools at my disposal for free now, and I figure what the heck, learn some aboutthe Yamaha FI systems, and maybe get a little better bike with this pipe. I hope that cleared up some of that.

 

[TheRepairMan]

You are right- I will only be able to check at the exhaust- But in my mind it will be better than nothing. As far as a TBS, I want to make sure all four FI units are working at their best- I know it makes a HUGE difference on my FJR. Now as far as working the map- I plan on adjusting the FI at low mid and high RPM. I will take the readings from the diagnostic mode, and use the Tech manual to raise or lower the values on each cylinder- The goal will be to raise each cylinder the same amount, and then do another sniff and TBS. To be honest I doubt if this will be some huge jump in performance, the goal is to have the FZ run as good as I can get, and to learn in the process. I have all of the tools at my disposal for free now, and I figure what the heck, learn some about the Yamaha FI systems, and maybe get a little better bike with this pipe. I hope that cleared up some of that.

Yeah, it sounds like we have the same goal in mind.

I placed my order at the local Yamaha parts dept. for the 06 FZ1 service manual. My one concern is about technical updates. I'm not sure how or if I'll ever get access to various pending corrections to the manual's original print.

It was all most a full time job sorting TSBs for manual corrections at the last car dealership I worked at. I am guessing the pages of a motorcycle manufacturer's service manual are also going to have at least a few mistakes here and there. I take almost everything I read with a grain of salt.

Keep us all posted on your findings and the adjustments you find necessary to make to the FI.

Roger B)

 

[Blueliner]

Roger, glad you mentioned Ivan's findings as now I don't have to. I was surpised to see the dyno numbers compared to the 01-05. Horsepower in the restricted gear 1-3 only 3 more but that coming at 11,500 revs compared to the 01-05 coming at 9500. But the torque really surprised me with it being 10 ft-lbs lower and coming at a higher rpm than the older version and at 3000 rpm the 01-05 has 15 ft-lbs more. If you want an o6 FZ1 cheap, go to the FZ1 board, suddenly there are a few for sale.

Some advice to 06 owners. Don't waste your money on a power commander yet, because until a fix is found for the 1-3 gear limiter, it will only help you in gear 4-6 anyway AND will not be mapped for optimum performance until that fix is found. I am not in Ivan's "camp" as it were but do acknowledge his expertise in the 5-valve engine area and he will find a solution, just give him some time to do so before you spend your hard earned dough on a PC etc. BTW a can will help already because the cats are in the stock can and that losing that stock can gets rid of them.

 

[TheRepairMan]

Roger, glad you mentioned Ivan's findings as now I don't have to. I was surpised to see the dyno numbers compared to the 01-05. Horsepower in the restricted gear 1-3 only 3 more but that coming at 11,500 revs compared to the 01-05 coming at 9500. But the torque really surprised me with it being 10 ft-lbs lower and coming at a higher rpm than the older version and at 3000 rpm the 01-05 has 15 ft-lbs more. If you want an o6 FZ1 cheap, go to the FZ1 board, suddenly there are a few for sale.
Some advice to 06 owners. Don't waste your money on a power commander yet, because until a fix is found for the 1-3 gear limiter, it will only help you in gear 4-6 anyway AND will not be mapped for optimum performance until that fix is found. I am not in Ivan's "camp" as it were but do acknowledge his expertise in the 5-valve engine area and he will find a solution, just give him some time to do so before you spend your hard earned dough on a PC etc. BTW a can will help already because the cats are in the stock can and that losing that stock can gets rid of them.

You really need to ride the 06 to appreciate it. I think if anyone "needs" more power than this thing has they should have gotten an R1, Gixer 1k, Busa, ZX14, and so on. For that matter, nearly all the 600 and 750 cc crotch rockets are faster than the FZ under the right conditions.

To me the new FZ1 is krazy fast, so much so that I've let off a good 2 grand short of the red line (12,000) 'cause that was enough ...and that was IN first and second gear.

That said, this bike isn't for everyone, and that could be said for every bike built. I wanted something different looking, modern, reasonably comfortable, great handling, light weight, within my budget and fairly fast. The 06 FZ1 is all those things, and I am still amazed at just how fast.

Is it perfect? Evidently not, but I really think a lot of tuners are coming out of the woodwork to seize an opportunity to make some money. I'm okay with that but my bike is just fine the way it is.

Roger

 

[petey]

Roger, glad you mentioned Ivan's findings as now I don't have to. I was surpised to see the dyno numbers compared to the 01-05. Horsepower in the restricted gear 1-3 only 3 more but that coming at 11,500 revs compared to the 01-05 coming at 9500. But the torque really surprised me with it being 10 ft-lbs lower and coming at a higher rpm than the older version and at 3000 rpm the 01-05 has 15 ft-lbs more. If you want an o6 FZ1 cheap, go to the FZ1 board, suddenly there are a few for sale.

Some advice to 06 owners. Don't waste your money on a power commander yet, because until a fix is found for the 1-3 gear limiter, it will only help you in gear 4-6 anyway AND will not be mapped for optimum performance until that fix is found. I am not in Ivan's "camp" as it were but do acknowledge his expertise in the 5-valve engine area and he will find a solution, just give him some time to do so before you spend your hard earned dough on a PC etc. BTW a can will help already because the cats are in the stock can and that losing that stock can gets rid of them.

You really need to ride the 06 to appreciate it. I think if anyone "needs" more power than this thing has they should have gotten an R1, Gixer 1k, Busa, ZX14, and so on. For that matter, nearly all the 600 and 750 cc crotch rockets are faster than the FZ under the right conditions.

To me the new FZ1 is krazy fast, so much so that I've let off a good 2 grand short of the red line (12,000) 'cause that was enough ...and that was IN first and second gear.

That said, this bike isn't for everyone, and that could be said for every bike built. I wanted something different looking, modern, reasonably comfortable, great handling, light weight, within my budget and fairly fast. The 06 FZ1 is all those things, and I am still amazed at just how fast.

Is it perfect? Evidently not, but I really think a lot of tuners are coming out of the woodwork to seize an opportunity to make some money. I'm okay with that but my bike is just fine the way it is.

Roger

I totally agree! :yahoo:

 

[newsantafe]

Graves already has the answer for the FZ1 "supposed to" any way- They have a power commander and several other items, to include velocity stacks for the bike- I can tell you with the pipe alone, it is a major improvement. here is the graves link for the FZ1 stuff- I have a feeling that a jumper mod similarto the FJR will be figured out soon also.

Graves motorsports

I think the bike was pretty darn good overall- I went and put a set of Dunlop qualifiers on the bike, when I ran over a nail. I had the Dunlop 221 set on there- they were great tires, I just could not get a new rear tire in a timely manner when I needed it. But these Qualifiers really show off just how hard you can push this bike in the corners. You can drag the pegs. I was stunned when that happened! If I was not working at a Yamaha shop, I would more than likely just leave the bike alone, But I "feel" I owe it to my customers to know this bike better. So what better way than to tweak it a little to make it better :lol:

Oh I just erdered my paint for the side covers and radiator guards and they will becolor matched soon- You know- for the customers.

 

[OrangevaleFJR]

Graves already has the answer for the FZ1 "supposed to" any way- They have a power commander and several other items, to include velocity stacks for the bike- I can tell you with the pipe alone, it is a major improvement. here is the graves link for the FZ1 stuff- I have a feeling that a jumper mod similarto the FJR will be figured out soon also.
Graves motorsports

I think the bike was pretty darn good overall- I went and put a set of Dunlop qualifiers on the bike, when I ran over a nail. I had the Dunlop 221 set on there- they were great tires, I just could not get a new rear tire in a timely manner when I needed it. But these Qualifiers really show off just how hard you can push this bike in the corners. You can drag the pegs. I was stunned when that happened! If I was not working at a Yamaha shop, I would more than likely just leave the bike alone, But I "feel" I owe it to my customers to know this bike better. So what better way than to tweak it a little to make it better :lol:

Oh I just erdered my paint for the side covers and radiator guards and they will becolor matched soon- You know- for the customers.

well...you are making me want to be a customer. I wish I didn't have BAS

(bike acquisition syndrome)...I really want a WR450 street legal and either a FZ1 or R1 to go with the FJR. I think the FZ1 is more likely for comfort issues.

 

[TheRepairMan]

Hey guys!

Didn't want to start a new thread. This is somewhat a related story just because of the bike itself.

Another new FZ1 owner, MrPheer (Will), recently finished some major mods to his bike and posted a few pics before leaving his home in Las Vegas. He had seven hundred some miles on it and was trailering it to the Utah mountains to ride with some friends.

About 22 hours after he completed the assembly work on his beautiful 06 he lost had a very unfortunate accident in which both he and the bike were severely injured. This was such a terrible incident and serves to remind us all to be very careful and aware of new surroundings while out on tour.

Here's a pic of Will's bike before the accident and I'll post a link to information about his condition and recovery, as well as contact info for Will and his family should any of you here wish to send your thoughts and words of encouragement.

https://www.sincityxriders.com/forums/index...?showtopic=1347

Roger

 

[wallygator]

jeez that is an effing hot bike

 

[TheRepairMan]

You guys and girls have to check out the EOM pics! Click the link below.

https://www.fjrforum.com/forum//index.php?a...t=0#entry150123

Roger

 

[TalioGladius]

Picked it up Saturday at Atlas Honda/Yamaha in Bristol, VA

It's a blast!

Roger

What pants are those?

 

[TheRepairMan]

Roger

What pants are those?

MINE ! :clapping: Hehehe!

Roger

 

[TalioGladius]

Roger

What pants are those?

MINE ! :clapping: Hehehe!

Sorry for the delay in getting back to your question. You should have sent me a PM.

They are Fieldsheer Titanium Air mesh with CE approved armor. They have been replaced in production by Fieldsheer's Apollo but appear to be very close to the same design.

I really like them and would buy another pair in a heartbeat. They are especially great for warm weather gear and easily slip over dragon jeans or other pants for even more protection. They are dual layer mesh and therefore are not rain gear. They are comfortable and breath very well while giving you a reasonable amount of protection from the road should you have to get off unexpectedly. Fieldsheer makes decent stuff but I had to have the Joe Rocket Jacket and gloves.

Found a pair of new Alpinestar Roam waterproof boots on Ebay Motors last Fall and love them. They too, have been replaced by a newer version. The Alpinestar-Ridge-

I see the pants and boots available for less than $100.00 each on a couple of motorcycle gear web stores.

I'm now looking for a new "ICON Mainframe Halo" helmet :yahoo: to replace my very noisy ZEUS modular.

Works a little better with the overall look I'm going for and I have read really good reviews about ICON helmets.

Roger

Very cool, I've been looking for some pants like that. Ride safe.