Frankenbike said "Goodbye!" to me this morning

[wfooshee]

With that "customized" seat he's got that ain't far from the truth!!!

Taking another look at the wiring diagram, if the red wire going into the windshield drive touches the wire that's next to it in the connector, it will energize ALL the fuses on the switched side of the ignition switch. Oooooh! I feel a suspicion coming on!

Still takes a ground short to make the horn go, and if that red wire is intermittently in contact with the other wire, I would expect other symptoms, like the LCD panel popping on, or the gauges sweeping, even reduced battery life.

Move the bars with the bike parked and off, see if the horn spurts at you. That puts it in the cable to the left grip. If not, have a look at the fuse box, make sure the red wire feeding the backup fuse is secure, not bumping other elements. Lastly, you might have to go under the nose cowl to look at that windshield drive connector.

EDIT: Actually that short I mentioned wouldn't power the ECU or the starter relays, so no gauges sweeping, but it would power up all the other switched circuits: lights, fuel injection, hazards, and so on.

 

[Bustanut joker]

Well seeing as Howie is 'puter savvy, an he was "under the hood" I suspect he got to tinkering someplace he didn't belong..

Tell me Howie, did you subtly hear Flight of the Valkyries at some point? Maybe ol' Frankenbike is thinking for hisself.. Scary **** man!

Actually I think Walt's suggestions are the way to go on this. Short to ground seems the most logical scenario.

:jester:

 

[RadioHowie]

I hope to shed some plastic this weekend to begin "sussin'" things out.

No way I can do it before then....I'm too exhausted from laughing my *** off at you basties' replies.

 

[Checkswrecks]

Get to work, park in my spot (yes, I have my own, covered parking...RHIP) and get off Frankenbike. Turn off the key, the shield goes down and right when it hits bottom, I hear a faint, two-tone BEE-beep. Just like you'd hear when you set the OEM alarm on most every late model vehicle with alarms and auto-locks...a short BEE-beep. Lots of folks driving in at the time, so I assume it's someone locking their doors or setting their alarm with a remote. About a half-second of thought...that's all I gave it.
THEN...at lunch...I'm heading out to Burger King for a quick deep-fried-lard-on-a-stick, put the key in and turn the bike on and the horns go off. Like real quiet and out of tune, as if you've got a bad ground and the horns aren't getting full voltage. First, only one horn goes off, then the other a moment or two later.

:dribble: :dribble:

WTF is that? Are those MY horns? I hit the horn button...and get the full volume/ruptured chihuahua squeal that all OEM FJR-horn owners would recognize. Let the horn button go, but the horns keep blowing, but at a much lower tone, and much lower volume. Hit the horn button again, and full tone and volume. Let the horn button go, lower tone and not as loud.

It's obvious I have a ground wire in the horn circuit that may have frayed through and is touching ground somewhere, but it definitely is not in the switch.

Anyone got an idea where to begin looking to track down a ground short in the horn circuit? I just unplugged the horns to shut 'em up 'til I can start tracking down the problem.

Hope nothing else in the circuit can be affected by an unintended ground.

Ever hear a goose honking? That's what it sounds like.

ps: Remember, it's a Gen I so no ground spiders have been harmed in creating this post.

Didn't you answer your own question here? You know how packed the fairing is with wiring behind the instruments and got the honking as the windshield retract moved the hardware in the same area.

My guess is that you'll find a couple of wires half cut & pinched together where they shouldn't be. Ought to be easy to find and fix.

But then again, maybe a relative of...

 

[Patriot]

Wires, what wires up front... :blink:

so Mr. Manatee...are you still beepin' down the road ???

 

[RadioHowie]

Wires, what wires up front... :blink:
so Mr. Manatee...are you still beepin' down the road ???

Not beeping...but no horns, either. Disconnected them and had to work all weekend, so no time to troubleshoot. <_<

 

[Patriot]

Wires, what wires up front... :blink:
so Mr. Manatee...are you still beepin' down the road ???

Not beeping...but no horns, either. Disconnected them and had to work all weekend, so no time to troubleshoot. <_<

yikes, I hope you, at least, ride with a starter's whistle around you neck:

Guess I'll be sending ya:

:yahoo: :clapping: :yahoo:

 

[RadioHowie]

Wires, what wires up front... :blink:
so Mr. Manatee...are you still beepin' down the road ???

Not beeping...but no horns, either. Disconnected them and had to work all weekend, so no time to troubleshoot. <_<

yikes, I hope you, at least, ride with a starter's whistle around you neck:

Guess I'll be sending ya:

:yahoo: :clapping: :yahoo:

Nah...don't worry. I've never known a horn (or Oscar Meyer Weiner Whistle) to prevent an accident.

I'd rather concentrate on driving around an impending demise than waste time hoping my horn wakes up some *****. I've looked straight into the eyes of someone about to hit me....100% eye contact...and he/she/they didn't flinch. If they see you and still ignore you, a horn ain't gonna save yer a$$.

 

[Bustanut joker]

Hey I just got to thinkin' :blink: I know, not a good idea for me but bare with me a sec..

I had a car horn do something like this years ago. I looked for bad wires etc and finally thought to just unplug them.

When I disconnected the first one the whine stopped. Hmmm.. I plug'd it back in and unpluged the other and the whine continued. :blink:

Turns out it was shorted internally..

Hey it just might save ya an hour or two

:jester:

 

[Patriot]

Wires, what wires up front... :blink:
so Mr. Manatee...are you still beepin' down the road ???

Not beeping...but no horns, either. Disconnected them and had to work all weekend, so no time to troubleshoot. <_<

yikes, I hope you, at least, ride with a starter's whistle around you neck:

Guess I'll be sending ya:

:yahoo: :clapping: :yahoo:

Nah...don't worry. I've never known a horn (or Oscar Meyer Weiner Whistle) to prevent an accident.

I'd rather concentrate on driving around an impending demise than waste time hoping my horn wakes up some *****. I've looked straight into the eyes of someone about to hit me....100% eye contact...and he/she/they didn't flinch. If they see you and still ignore you, a horn ain't gonna save yer a$$.

OK, but mine has saved my can 5 definite times that I can count

twice cars were merging from an on ramp, driver on cell phone, and I was in the right lane with traffic to my left

as their door came next to my front wheel and their tires started to creep over the white broken lane line (called the "zipper" to Ride Captains) into mine, I blasted the ole Stebel and their head ****** to the left and the car ****** to the right as I accelerated away.

Once just last week, a jerk trying to make time was weaving back and forth from left to right lane as I tooled along at 78 with AVCC set. He went from right to center in front of a van with it blocking his view of me coming up in the left lane.

All of a sudden I was passing the van and he was moving from in front of it in the center at me in the left lane. Horn blows and he kicks hard back right to the center with a head snap. I had the left far emergency lane to go to if necessary. We have emergency lanes on the left and right on our interstates as additional hurricane evacuation lanes. And get this, we have "contra flow" plans which changes all lanes to outward flow from the city in an evacuation. The opposite moving road is changed to a same moving road by the state police. Yes, complicated to do, but found as necessary to get millions out of town within 24 hours.

Then there are the trucks in the night tooling along in the right lane and thier left turn signal pops on at an inopportune time. I've hit the horn, the turn signal turns off, and the give me a friendly "I'm sorry" toot of theirs.

I don't just blare the horn and hope I survive. The blare is secondary to the quick plan of "what if's", checking all mirrors to get a snapshot of my situation, etc. And checking what my worse case scenero is like riding into the grass median instead of being pancaked by a vehicle, etc. I'm thinking that most all the time anyway. It's the Navy Pilot in me, I guess. Always plan an out, best place to land, or constant "what if's".

 

[RadioHowie]

Hey I just got to thinkin' :blink: I know, not a good idea for me but bare with me a sec..I had a car horn do something like this years ago. I looked for bad wires etc and finally thought to just unplug them.

When I disconnected the first one the whine stopped. Hmmm.. I plug'd it back in and unpluged the other and the whine continued. :blink:

Turns out it was shorted internally..

Hey it just might save ya an hour or two

:jester:

And here I was, just coming outta the *******, wondering what next nickname to call you. I got the inspiration while watering the porcelain....NumbNut Joker was my first choice.....and here YOU go, coming up with a reasonable response.

Think I'll have to save NumbNut Joker for someone else. Wheaties comes to mind... :rofl:

And to NOT break kayfabe, thanks for the suggestion, FukBukit. :finger:

 

[Brodie]

Damn Howie,

From the title of your topic, I'm sure glad your bike didn't GO GOODBYE like my son's CBR1000 last year. It was a stroke of luck it was found 2 months later - just a shadow of it's glorious self. Took several thousand dollars from my PayPal mad money to get it back in shape.

<snip>Turn off the key, the shield goes down and right when it hits bottom, I hear a faint, two-tone BEE-beep.

<snip>

[SIZE=12pt]Silly question...[/SIZE]

have you raised your windshield yet?

 

[RadioHowie]

Damn Howie,
From the title of your topic, I'm sure glad your bike didn't GO GOODBYE like my son's CBR1000 last year. It was a stroke of luck it was found 2 months later - just a shadow of it's glorious self. Took several thousand dollars from my PayPal mad money to get it back in shape.

Yep...in advertising, it's called "The Hook", ie, to grab your attention.

Yes, I'm an attention whore.

(another quote for Bust's sig line :finger: )

<snip>Turn off the key, the shield goes down and right when it hits bottom, I hear a faint, two-tone BEE-beep.

<snip>

[SIZE=12pt]Silly question...[/SIZE]

have you raised your windshield yet?

Yeah, but I'd already unplugged the horns. Haven't had time to troubleshoot 'em yet. <_<

Time will tell.

 

[Bustanut joker]

And here I was, just coming outta the *******, wondering what next nickname to call you. I got the inspiration while watering the porcelain....NumbNut Joker was my first choice.....and here YOU go, coming up with a reasonable response.
Think I'll have to save NumbNut Joker for someone else. Wheaties comes to mind... :rofl:

And to NOT break kayfabe, thanks for the suggestion, FukBukit. :finger:

Gonna have to call foul here..... You can't use NumbNut Joker on Wheaties till he's been properly acknowledged as Toad Nipples..

Stick with the program dofus :dribble:

:****:

:jester:

 

[RadioHowie]

And here I was, just coming outta the *******, wondering what next nickname to call you. I got the inspiration while watering the porcelain....NumbNut Joker was my first choice.....and here YOU go, coming up with a reasonable response.
Think I'll have to save NumbNut Joker for someone else. Wheaties comes to mind... :rofl:

And to NOT break kayfabe, thanks for the suggestion, FukBukit. :finger:

Gonna have to call foul here..... You can't use NumbNut Joker on Wheaties till he's been properly acknowledged as Toad Nipples..

Stick with the program dofus :dribble:

:****:

:jester:

This reply, with all its love and respect, could NOT be more timely.

Just took my after-lunch ciggy break and thought I'd try a little 'speriment.

Plugged the left horn in and turned on the key. No beep. Hit the horn button. Beep.

Plugged the right horn in and turned on the key. BEEEEEEEEEPPPPPP!!!!!

Unplugged the right horn. No beep.

You were right, mousepecker. The problem is internal to the right horn, not in the wiring.

And here I was gonna kiss your *** in public and praise you to the FJR Gods for your diagnosis, because (gawd this pains me) you were right!

 

[dcarver]

And here I was, just coming outta the *******, wondering what next nickname to call you. I got the inspiration while watering the porcelain....NumbNut Joker was my first choice.....and here YOU go, coming up with a reasonable response.
Think I'll have to save NumbNut Joker for someone else. Wheaties comes to mind... :rofl:

And to NOT break kayfabe, thanks for the suggestion, FukBukit. :finger:

Gonna have to call foul here..... You can't use NumbNut Joker on Wheaties till he's been properly acknowledged as Toad Nipples..

Stick with the program dofus :dribble:

:****:

:jester:

This reply, with all its love and respect, could NOT be more timely.

Just took my after-lunch ciggy break and thought I'd try a little 'speriment.

Plugged the left horn in and turned on the key. No beep. Hit the horn button. Beep.

Plugged the right horn in and turned on the key. BEEEEEEEEEPPPPPP!!!!!

Unplugged the right horn. No beep.

You were right, mousepecker. The problem is internal to the right horn, not in the wiring.

And here I was gonna kiss your *** in public and praise you to the FJR Gods for your diagnosis, because (gawd this pains me) you were right!

good god dogs and kittens hell freezing over and BustaNut gets to free-shave Radio's ***...

 

[RadioHowie]

And here I was, just coming outta the *******, wondering what next nickname to call you. I got the inspiration while watering the porcelain....NumbNut Joker was my first choice.....and here YOU go, coming up with a reasonable response.
Think I'll have to save NumbNut Joker for someone else. Wheaties comes to mind... :rofl:

And to NOT break kayfabe, thanks for the suggestion, FukBukit. :finger:

Gonna have to call foul here..... You can't use NumbNut Joker on Wheaties till he's been properly acknowledged as Toad Nipples..

Stick with the program dofus :dribble:

:****:

:jester:

This reply, with all its love and respect, could NOT be more timely.

Just took my after-lunch ciggy break and thought I'd try a little 'speriment.

Plugged the left horn in and turned on the key. No beep. Hit the horn button. Beep.

Plugged the right horn in and turned on the key. BEEEEEEEEEPPPPPP!!!!!

Unplugged the right horn. No beep.

You were right, mousepecker. The problem is internal to the right horn, not in the wiring.

And here I was gonna kiss your *** in public and praise you to the FJR Gods for your diagnosis, because (gawd this pains me) you were right!

good god dogs and kittens hell freezing over and BustaNut gets to free-shave Radio's ***...

.....and YOU have to watch!!!

 

[beemerdons]

And here I was, just coming outta the *******, wondering what next nickname to call you. I got the inspiration while watering the porcelain....NumbNut Joker was my first choice.....and here YOU go, coming up with a reasonable response.
Think I'll have to save NumbNut Joker for someone else. Wheaties comes to mind... :rofl:

And to NOT break kayfabe, thanks for the suggestion, FukBukit. :finger:

Gonna have to call foul here..... You can't use NumbNut Joker on Wheaties till he's been properly acknowledged as Toad Nipples..

Stick with the program dofus :dribble:

:****:

:jester:

This reply, with all its love and respect, could NOT be more timely.

Just took my after-lunch ciggy break and thought I'd try a little 'speriment.

Plugged the left horn in and turned on the key. No beep. Hit the horn button. Beep.

Plugged the right horn in and turned on the key. BEEEEEEEEEPPPPPP!!!!!

Unplugged the right horn. No beep.

You were right, mousepecker. The problem is internal to the right horn, not in the wiring.

And here I was gonna kiss your *** in public and praise you to the FJR Gods for your diagnosis, because (gawd this pains me) you were right!

good god dogs and kittens hell freezing over and BustaNut gets to free-shave Radio's ***...

.....and YOU have to watch!!!

Nothing really to add to this thread, just been away from a computer for 5 days, and I wanted an opportunity to tell RadioHowie to go screw himself; Manatee Style!

 

[RadioHowie]

Nothing really to add to this thread, just been away from a computer for 5 days, and I wanted an opportunity to tell RadioHowie to go screw himself; Manatee Style!

Bite me, old man! Desert air is dryin' yer brain out.

 

[wfooshee]

And here I was, just coming outta the *******, wondering what next nickname to call you. I got the inspiration while watering the porcelain....NumbNut Joker was my first choice.....and here YOU go, coming up with a reasonable response.
Think I'll have to save NumbNut Joker for someone else. Wheaties comes to mind... :rofl:

And to NOT break kayfabe, thanks for the suggestion, FukBukit. :finger:

Gonna have to call foul here..... You can't use NumbNut Joker on Wheaties till he's been properly acknowledged as Toad Nipples..

Stick with the program dofus :dribble:

:****:

:jester:

This reply, with all its love and respect, could NOT be more timely.

Just took my after-lunch ciggy break and thought I'd try a little 'speriment.

Plugged the left horn in and turned on the key. No beep. Hit the horn button. Beep.

Plugged the right horn in and turned on the key. BEEEEEEEEEPPPPPP!!!!!

Unplugged the right horn. No beep.

You were right, mousepecker. The problem is internal to the right horn, not in the wiring.

And here I was gonna kiss your *** in public and praise you to the FJR Gods for your diagnosis, because (gawd this pains me) you were right!

Well, I still don't see how it coulda beeped with the key off when the windshield dropped, cause they ain't no volts on the horn circuit.

Supposedly.