beemerdons
Certifiable Old Fart
Fixed it for you RH, since you like to eat as much as I do, I'm really surprised you missed this!
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bigjimbiker
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doctorJ
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Well you could be right about that, but you could always BLOW it up (to see better ya know).Probably too small to capture on a pic to see anywayAfter riding a while, I don't need to post a documentation pic that me testicles didn't fall off do I? Would you guys and gals just take my most honorable word for that
doctorj
doctorj
Udjeni
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When running at 30 psi the weave started at 200 kph. At 35 psi it starts at 210 kph. Not ideal, but not too bad - keeps me out of (more) trouble.
Thanks for the offer. I will do some investigation, firstly just to see if I can find another tyre - maybe there are more options by now - and secondly, perhaps I can get a tyre shop to import an Exalto for me. If I don't come right, or the costs are exorbitant and your offer still stands we can pursue it further. Thanks again.
As it is, I already have another Yokohama AVS in my garage (someone else tried it, but it did not fit his bike so I took it over from him), so I am not in a big hurry. I'll definitely use a lower pressure when I put the new AVS on.
Oh, and thanks for the Mini Cooper tip Fred W - will check it out.
RadioHowie
I Miss Beemerdons!
Never crossed my mind.....not a big fan of capers. But a little lemon zest would do it for me.
Just checked this thread again as I'm switching to a Wee. I had the same result with the Yokohama-about 18,000 miles-wear bars showing. Michelin with 12,000-7/32 left. Ian, Iowa
BTW the guy that said he'd buy my 04 ABS with 92,000 miles keeps delaying the pickup, never even looked at the bike.
So, still for sale for $4,000.
Heated grips and vest outlet with individual HeatTrollers
Penske shock and after market fork springs
Audiovox CC
switched outlet for GPS, tankbag, etc.
shelf
Ridden buy an almost 70-year-old geezer, never been down, yada,yada,yada.
BTW the guy that said he'd buy my 04 ABS with 92,000 miles keeps delaying the pickup, never even looked at the bike.
So, still for sale for $4,000.
Heated grips and vest outlet with individual HeatTrollers
Penske shock and after market fork springs
Audiovox CC
switched outlet for GPS, tankbag, etc.
shelf
Ridden buy an almost 70-year-old geezer, never been down, yada,yada,yada.
Can't believe I'm considering this, haven't visited the site for months, but just spent WAY too much of my day looking over this thread.
Heck, I just came out here as I prepare to replace plugs and do a general 45k maintenance pulling all the tupperware and going over everything under there. (plugs, valve check, recheck spiders/harness, plus install new GPS hardwired). h
I have a brand new PR2 I was planning to install next weekend, but now I'm thinking I'm sick of a tire change every 5 months. Or take one off that still have SOME life, but not enough for a trip i want to take.
Firstly, I normally use my Harbor Freight changer to change my tires. Can I do that with the CT?
I know these aren't being used for Deal's Gap type twisties on a daily basis, but in my 45 mile or so each way commute, I do touch pegs a few times each way on my local roads, (then 40 miles of turnpike) Not super fast and I don't consider it super aggressive, but I do normally get that far over on daily basis just to bring a smile to my face before I start my workday. Will the car tire still do that?
I have 3 trips to North Georgia and Carolina'a in the next 4 months. I'll still be able to ride normally up there, right? I'd hate to find myself trying to get my GPS to locate straight roads so I can avoid all those silly curves!!
How fast are you guys riding on Interstate, how fast have you taken these tires? I don't ride 90-100 all day every day, but sometimes... , I have to be able to do that just as comfortably as I do now, especially if making trips out West or in clear areas where I'm making time and eating miles.
SO, after reading much of this, I'm thinking of either the Michelin Exalto or the Sport Pilot A/S Plus. Specs are almost identical.
Is one better than the other?
Which Tire?
Thanks for your thoughts on this!
Heck, I just came out here as I prepare to replace plugs and do a general 45k maintenance pulling all the tupperware and going over everything under there. (plugs, valve check, recheck spiders/harness, plus install new GPS hardwired). h
I have a brand new PR2 I was planning to install next weekend, but now I'm thinking I'm sick of a tire change every 5 months. Or take one off that still have SOME life, but not enough for a trip i want to take.
Firstly, I normally use my Harbor Freight changer to change my tires. Can I do that with the CT?
I know these aren't being used for Deal's Gap type twisties on a daily basis, but in my 45 mile or so each way commute, I do touch pegs a few times each way on my local roads, (then 40 miles of turnpike) Not super fast and I don't consider it super aggressive, but I do normally get that far over on daily basis just to bring a smile to my face
before I start my workday. Will the car tire still do that?I have 3 trips to North Georgia and Carolina'a in the next 4 months. I'll still be able to ride normally up there, right? I'd hate to find myself trying to get my GPS to locate straight roads so I can avoid all those silly curves!!
How fast are you guys riding on Interstate, how fast have you taken these tires? I don't ride 90-100 all day every day, but sometimes... , I have to be able to do that just as comfortably as I do now, especially if making trips out West or in clear areas where I'm making time and eating miles.
SO, after reading much of this, I'm thinking of either the Michelin Exalto or the Sport Pilot A/S Plus. Specs are almost identical.
Is one better than the other?
Which Tire?
Thanks for your thoughts on this!
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RadioHowie
I Miss Beemerdons!
That "5 month tire change" IS a PITA, ain't it!
Easy answer -- yes. Complete answer -- get a friend or two to help. The stiffer sidewalls CAN (not necessarily WILL) make the job a bit more challenging.
You'll be pleasantly surprised to discover that, with a good quality CT as you mention below, once you break the CT in and get used to the different feel of it, your riding style might actually become MORE aggressive, as your confidence factor with all that extra traction "out back" improves.I know these aren't being used for Deal's Gap type twisties on a daily basis, but in my 45 mile or so each way commute, I do touch pegs a few times each way on my local roads, (then 40 miles of turnpike) Not super fast and I don't consider it super aggressive, but I do normally get that far over on daily basis just to bring a smile to my face
See my paragraph above.
You will still be making a fool of yourself, and risking the validity of your license, with a CT mounted.
I'm running the Pilot A/S Plus and am thrilled with it. But I think it's still too early in this Forum-wide "experiment" to determine a "one better than the other" quotient.
Despite appearances to the contrary, we REALLY are here to assist. With a real quality CT, such as either Michelin, I'd be very surprised if you were unhappy coming to the Darkside.
Floridave - I would suggest a few things here. If you're dragging the pegs on the '07, for fun or just 'cause, you might consider upgrading the shock. You will notice the improved ride quality at that level of fun riding.
Yes, you can drag the pegs with the CT mounted. No issues there once you're comfortable with the new feel. Yes, you can use the HF changer, but as RH said, it may require an extra pair of hands. It's all in the technique. If you're doing easy changes with other tires, the CT won't be much difference. It takes more work to hold the sidewall in the valley of the rim while you get the second bead over the rim.
Since I'm actually on my second CT, (not much of a comparo), I would suggest the Exalto as it has a slightly more rounded profile than the A/S Sport. You'll notice less pressure required for turn in, but still a bit more than a bike tire. This is not to say that the A/S Sport isn't a fine tire. Just splitting hairs.
Did you read the FAQ? If not, please do. Link in the first post of this thread. It should answer all your questions. If not, do ask here and we will get you answers.
You will notice some extra work in the twisties, but it's not a limitation. Speed - Yep, you can still go fast. It's not uncommon to feel some weave at speeds over approx. 130 mph. If you routinely spend time above that, stick with the moto tires. The tire will be fine, it's just a matter of mass, sidewall design and the lower pressures we run in the CT. Up the pressure too much and you wear out the center of the tire faster in most cases. Though a couple of riders are running max pressure to round out the tire more. No long term reports on that method yet. I run 31 psi.
Yes, you can drag the pegs with the CT mounted. No issues there once you're comfortable with the new feel. Yes, you can use the HF changer, but as RH said, it may require an extra pair of hands. It's all in the technique. If you're doing easy changes with other tires, the CT won't be much difference. It takes more work to hold the sidewall in the valley of the rim while you get the second bead over the rim.
Since I'm actually on my second CT, (not much of a comparo), I would suggest the Exalto as it has a slightly more rounded profile than the A/S Sport. You'll notice less pressure required for turn in, but still a bit more than a bike tire. This is not to say that the A/S Sport isn't a fine tire. Just splitting hairs.
Did you read the FAQ? If not, please do. Link in the first post of this thread. It should answer all your questions. If not, do ask here and we will get you answers.
You will notice some extra work in the twisties, but it's not a limitation. Speed - Yep, you can still go fast. It's not uncommon to feel some weave at speeds over approx. 130 mph. If you routinely spend time above that, stick with the moto tires. The tire will be fine, it's just a matter of mass, sidewall design and the lower pressures we run in the CT. Up the pressure too much and you wear out the center of the tire faster in most cases. Though a couple of riders are running max pressure to round out the tire more. No long term reports on that method yet. I run 31 psi.
To the Darkside Curious - A local rider bought a Bridgestone Potenza 019G Grid A/S tire in preparation for his rally season, but never got around to mounting it up and had some issues with his custom tail dragger fuel cell that worried him. Bottom line, he now is going to stick to moto tires and has a BT019G to sell. It's still as shipped from Tire Rack so could be re-shipped, but the ideal buyer would be local, more or less.
If you're interested, PM or email me with an offer. This is the same tire I put 36,600 miles on and it was still ready for more. Doug555 has exceeded my mileage for an individual tire on this same tire too, proving it's a 40k tire. If you're on a budget or just in the right place at the right time, let me know. The seller wants it to get used.
If you're interested, PM or email me with an offer. This is the same tire I put 36,600 miles on and it was still ready for more. Doug555 has exceeded my mileage for an individual tire on this same tire too, proving it's a 40k tire. If you're on a budget or just in the right place at the right time, let me know. The seller wants it to get used.
johnny80s
Turtle Gears
This is great thread. It never dies. I am not looking to put a car tire on my bike but it is great to read about what you guys are doing.
Good luck.
Good luck.
beemerdons
Certifiable Old Fart
Oh for the Love of God johnny80s, don't encourage these CT whack jobs; you do know what will come next don't you, a streaming video of RadioHowie biting fart bubbles in his bathtub!!! jes' sayin'
johnny80s
Turtle Gears
I guess you haven't seen the video yet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-1RKnQQFRo&feature=player_detailpage
doctorJ
Well-known member
OK, I got the Michelin Pilot Exalto A/S mounted and put on today. I'll try to post a pic. So what number am I? After mounting it and a new PR2 front, I put 32 lbs PSI in rear and 40 in front. I rode around the neighborhood for a mile or two and was surprised how easily the turn in was. It wants to stay straight but as soon as I put some pressure on the bar, the turn in was not a big deal. Yes, it feels different and very little miles done, but I think this is gonna be a winner.
Obviously the picture didn't show, so I'll spend a bit of time learning tonight when I have some time and try again. Maybe if you go to the photobucket acct. you can see it.
JDP
Obviously the picture didn't show, so I'll spend a bit of time learning tonight when I have some time and try again. Maybe if you go to the photobucket acct. you can see it.
JDP
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Photo assist for Jon:
That should be pretty much how mine looks, soon as I get 'er dun. Well, except mine will be mounted on a superior 1st Gen B4
That should be pretty much how mine looks, soon as I get 'er dun. Well, except mine will be mounted on a superior 1st Gen B4
You can see the entire album at this Photobucket link.
Obviously the picture didn't show, so I'll spend a bit of time learning tonight when I have some time and try again. Maybe if you go to the photobucket acct. you can see it.
:lol: You are officially #40 on the Darksider list doctorj. Welcome to the Darkside, you have been added to the FAQ list.
doctorJ
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Thanks for the pic assist. I'll read more on how to do it. I'm not much of a pic person since I just take the time. I'll give a review after scrubbing the tires in. I usually do about a 50 to 100 mi. scrub in before doing much leaning. So far, I think it is a good decision.
doctorj
doctorj
wfooshee
O, Woe is me!!
You did fine, except you got https:// in there twice.
On Photobucket, looking at the album's thumbnail page, just hover over the picture you want to post. A drop-down opens. The fourth line is EXACTLY the code you want to post for the pic to show. No other codes or doodads. They wrote it up for you already.
Click on that fourth line, it changes to "copied." Go into your post on the forum, type CTRL-V, and the code is there.
On Photobucket, looking at the album's thumbnail page, just hover over the picture you want to post. A drop-down opens. The fourth line is EXACTLY the code you want to post for the pic to show. No other codes or doodads. They wrote it up for you already.
Click on that fourth line, it changes to "copied." Go into your post on the forum, type CTRL-V, and the code is there.
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