How many use cruise above 80 mph?

[Bounce]

Apology accepted.

Was it the "agency" comment or that coastal vs fly-over bias? It was the agency comment wasn't it.

 

[HotRodZilla]

You guys ought to try driving in Mexico City. 80+ MPH, bumper to bumper in 8 lanes of traffic on a 5 lane road. Haha...I'm sure many other countries, like China and India have the same kind of adventure; I've just never driven there.

I despise slow speed limits.

 

[airboss]

You guys ought to try driving in Mexico City. 80+ MPH, bumper to bumper in 8 lanes of traffic on a 5 lane road. Haha...I'm sure many other countries, like China and India have the same kind of adventure; I've just never driven there.
I despise slow speed limits.

Thailand.

Those regulatory sighs along the highway, lines dividing lanes. only suggestions, and they drive on the wrong side of the road.

 

[eflyguy]

My '08 doesn't have it, but if it did, I doubt I'd miss the ability to set above 80mph *actual*.. Unfortunately, 80mph indicated is far less, around 74, so if the cruise was limited to that, I'd be pretty annoyed. Cruising at 80 actual is not a problem on 70mph marked highways here.

 

[Old Guy]

My '08 doesn't have it, but if it did, I doubt I'd miss the ability to set above 80mph *actual*.. Unfortunately, 80mph indicated is far less, around 74, so if the cruise was limited to that, I'd be pretty annoyed. Cruising at 80 actual is not a problem on 70mph marked highways here.

FWIW, mine will set on 82, which is pretty much 80 actual.

 

[Uncle Hud]

jammess posted: Top 5 interstates for most fatal accidents per mile in 2013

• I-285 in Georgia
• I-710 in California
• I-240 in Oklahoma
• I-495 in Delaware
• I-240 in Tennessee

Read more information and find a complete list of deadliest interstates in the U.S. here.Georgia is the seventh-worst state in the country for fatal car accidents in total (1,085 incidents in 2013). Texas ranked no. 1, with 3,044 deaths from car accidents in 2013.

I-285 has been the scene for several high-profile deaths this year. In January, a 53-year-old woman was struck by multiple vehicles and killed while walking across I-285 westbound. Two weeks later, a 28-year-old man was fatally struck by a car after pulling over in the emergency lane and walking across the interstate.Hi guys. Here is some light reading for you and pretty well says it all.

It also appears the stats for Georgia and the 285 haven't improved for 2016. Ain't it great?

Georgia (and Texas, and probably Oregon, too) rank high on the total fatalities list because many, many of our highway miles are in empty rural areas. If you crash anywhere on the 150 miles of I-16 between Savannah and Macon, it may be 10 minutes before the next car comes by. If you crash at night on this empty and boring highway, your crashed car may not be noticed until morning. And that's on I-16. Miles and miles of equally rural areas on I-95, I-20, and I-75 south of Macon. The pieces of I-24 and I-59 in Georgia pass through steep, rugged areas where a vehicle leaving the roadway plunges completely out of sight. It may be days before those vehicles are located.

Once the authorities HAVE been notified, it will still take at least 45 minutes for helicopter med-evac to get you to a trauma center. That kind of delay is always life-threatening.

Anyone attempting to walk across I-285 in metro Atlanta -- eight lanes of high speed traffic with a 6-foot concrete median wall -- gets the Darwin Award. (Let's call it the Frogger Award.) Even first responders won't do that without lots of stopped vehicles and flashing lights.

AND .... those statistics should be in deaths-per-thousand-vehicle-miles for an accurate comparison. Metro Atlanta, with almost 6 million people, is bound to have more traffic deaths than maybe the entire state of Oregon, which has fewer than 4 million residents.

 

[jammess]

Find me a traffic safety specialist that will tell you high vehicle speed does not directly influence traffic fatality statistics then add high congestion like on the I285 and what do you get? Montana is un-populated yet has a high vehicle death rate per capita. Why do you suppose that is? Wouldn't have anything to do with speed would it? Duhhhhhhhh... I mean I been there and done it!

Take away speed on the I285 and using some of you guys logic the death rate would not drop??? Double duhhhhhh...

 

[Uncle Hud]

jammess posted:Find me a traffic safety specialist that will tell you high vehicle speed does not directly influence traffic fatality statistics then add high congestion like on the I285 and what do you get? Montana is un-populated yet has a high vehicle death rate per capita. Why do you suppose that is? Wouldn't have anything to do with speed would it? Duhhhhhhhh... I mean I been there and done it!

Take away speed on the I285 and using some of you guys logic the death rate would not drop??? Double duhhhhhh...

Speed is a factor in deaths from traffic crashes, of course! But tens of millions of people -- in this country alone -- drive far above the speed limit every day without dying!

Factors in traffic deaths include: quality of the adjacent Clear Zone, type of object hit by vehicle, seat belt usage, air bag effectiveness, terrain where vehicle comes to rest, age and health of people involved, make and model of vehicle involved, loose objects inside vehicle, penetration of vehicle envelope, time before crash is reported, release of fluids or vapors, outside temperature, exposure to rain/snow after crashing, and -- MOST CRITICALLY -- time to medical attention and/or arrival at a Trauma Center.

Read my response, please. Montana has incredibly remote areas. Crash there, even traveling below the speed limit, and you have a long wait before arrival at an Emergency Room -- which may not be experienced or equipped to handle your serious injuries. THAT'S the biggest reason Montana has a high per-capita traffic death rate. IIHS statistics show 89% of Montana's fatal crashes happen in rural areas. Montana's winter weather and winter alcohol consumption make for even riskier driving conditions.

[serious crash in rural area] + [long response time] = [bad odds for survival]

At NAFO 2016 in Colorado, many of us rode the Million Dollar Highway, US 550 between Montrose and Durango. That highway has no guardrail and a God-knows-how-far drop to bare rock at the bottom of the canyon. Speed is not a factor in crash survival on that highway. As far as I know, zero deaths were recorded on that highway over our visit, despite some -- at least one: me -- who exceeded its speed limit.

Respectfully,

Uncle Hud

a Registered Professional Engineer with a 30-year career in traffic engineering and ITS,

including over a dozen appearances in court as an expert witness

PS: Again, if you want to talk about per-capita, you need to make sure the statistics are comparable. For low populations, even a few deaths will skew statistics. For the I-285 statistics you quoted, two of the deaths were from PEDESTRIANS, who were undoubtedly traveling below the posted speed limit.

<edit, 10 mins later> According to the 2015 IIHS statistics linked above, Georgia (at 1.21 deaths per million vehicle-miles traveled) has a lower traffic crash death rate than Oregon, at 1.24. Your highways are roughly 3% more deadly than mine.

(Dear Moderators: I will shut up and go away.)

 

[jammess]

Afternoon UH, In the case of Montana time to respond is one thing but I'm talking only about factors leading up to a crash not circumstances effecting survival after the incident. I think speed is most likely the dominant factor when it comes to traffic fatalities anywhere. Other factors for sure play a part but I bet excessive speed is the biggest single player.

When I resided under the big sky (Montana) there were only 2 state police units on duty in winter in the entire state. I always kept a spare battery in the basement on trickle charge which I would take with me anytime I was traveling any distance just in case because help could be a long time coming and batteries don't like extreme cold. Every winter there would be motorists that were caught outside because of car trouble and they would succumb to hypothermia while walking to find help. One Saturday morning the outside temp was -65F and that was not wind chill. That was coldest I've ever seen in my life. We went through a cord of wood that week. I don't know why but I miss those days. Free time in summer was spent gathering fire wood. I worked for the National Park Service and lived year round at Mammoth Hot Springs which is over 7,000 feet in the northern rockies. Best job i ever had. But I digress.

 

[Bounce]

That's the main issue... "thinking". It's opinion (possibly) without supporting data to back it up. High speeds MAY be a contributing factor but tend to rarely be the primary factor.

No one is insisting that others ride above their comfort zones. I think the return courtesy pending cites of actual data would be polite.

 

[RossKean]

I wonder what this will do for Atlanta traffic?

https://www.cnn.com/2017/03/31/us/atlanta-interstate-85-fire-collapse/index.html

 

[Bounce]

A friend from the area said it will be a major hassle until it's fixed.

 

[Uncle Hud]

Notes:

1. No one was injured or killed.

2. This incident was not due to excessive speed.

3. Let's keep this thread on-topic. Use this one instead.

 

[RossKean]

I think adherence to the topic was left behind some time ago - How many use CC above 80 mph?

Note: I posted my reference to the issue 1.5 hours before the other thread was started.
(and Atlanta driving has been mentioned a number of times here)

Edit: Forgot the smiley -

 

[Kaismo]

Ran down to COTA last Wednesday for th Dunlop test. The 130 toll road has an 80 limit. I set to 86 and let it rip.

 

[sks700]

My cruise was set at 88 a couple of times on the way home from the Moonshine lunch run last weekend.

 

[draco_1967]

On these freeways in UT, ID, MT, WY that have 80mph speed limits, and the traffic is moving at 90, I use the cruise over 80. Mine is an MCCruise on my 07 though...

 

[bamanerd]

All the freaking time!!! I really don't know what I'd do without it. For me, 90mph is a really nice sweetspot for cruise control. I love it.