Intersting Observation Today. . .

[worldbound4now]

A buddy of mine says "The only difference in wearing a helmet or not is whether you spend a week in the ICU before you die." :blink: He's a doc, rides a Harley, and never wears a helmet. For me, I always wear one.

Not all physicians are smart.

I find a similair experience with the quieter ride when the face shield of my X-11 is raised part way as well. I still will ride with the shield down 99% of the time just to keep the dirt/rocks/bugs/horse ****/tumbleweed/etc... out of my face.

 

[HaulinAshe]

You didn't say if your CB shield is flip, or no flip.

I ride with a CB +4w, +2h w/flip and HJC AC-12 helmets. Have noticed turbulence at the very edge of the CB airstream is extremely noisy. Get one inch below or one inch into the stream and things definitely quieten down.

 

[phil]

Helmets -

Quiet the ride.

Reduce sunburn.

Prevent windburn.

Protect your eyes.

Improve the music in the headphones.

And, most parts of the body will heal after breaking, but not your brain.

I might be crazy, but I ain't stupid.

 

[993_Pilot]

You didn't say if your CB shield is flip, or no flip.
I ride with a CB +4w, +2h w/flip and HJC AC-12 helmets. Have noticed turbulence at the very edge of the CB airstream is extremely noisy. Get one inch below or one inch into the stream and things definitely quieten down.

No Flip, Stock Profile, but I will probably get a +4h next time. Yeah, ducking behind the windscreen drastically reduces noise, but isn't very comfortable.

 

[rfulcher]

A buddy of mine says "The only difference in wearing a helmet or not is whether you spend a week in the ICU before you die." :blink: He's a doc, rides a Harley, and never wears a helmet. For me, I always wear one.

rant mode on/

Just goes to show that self serving delusion trumps education and knowledge. He does not want to wear a helmet so he finds a clever delusion that sounds clever/cute but is just wrong. But it serves his purpose. He may be an MD but most who works ER, neuro, or psych will tell you that the difference between no helmet and a helmet can be death vs "oh shoot I have to buy a new helmet." Even worse is the difference between "I have a headache" vs "he has been an unreliable mean SOB, with a foul mouth and a bad temper, who can't keep a job ever since that accident." Head trauma that does not kill you does not make you strong, sometimes it just make you a difficult brain damaged person who is miserable and makes everybody around them miserable. Death is not that big a deal it happens to everybody once. Brain damage is the gift that keeps on giving.

/rant mode off

If someone wants to skip wearing a helmet it is their choice. However it does effect others. Sorry about the thread jack.

I ride with my visor up most of the time because I like the improved vision and on most bikes less noise. However with my 2 week old Rifle windshield the pocket of quiet air is large enough and the boundary air smooth enough that the helmet is quieter with the visor down.

 

[BrunDog]

A buddy of mine says "The only difference in wearing a helmet or not is whether you spend a week in the ICU before you die." :blink: He's a doc, rides a Harley, and never wears a helmet. For me, I always wear one.

Now that there is the most moronic thing I have ever heard. This guy is a doctor?

I wouldn't let this jack squeeze cut my fuggin toenails.

-BD

 

[TexasDoc]

OK, that didn't go quite as intended. Guys, he says it jokingly. He knows all that has been written above. He just chooses not to wear a helmet. He uses his quote as sort of a self-excuse as to why, with all the evidence for helmets, he chooses to take the risk and ride without.

 

[jmdaniel]

rant mode on/Just goes to show that self serving delusion trumps education and knowledge. He does not want to wear a helmet so he finds a clever delusion that sounds clever/cute but is just wrong. But it serves his purpose. He may be an MD but most who works ER, neuro, or psych will tell you that the difference between no helmet and a helmet can be death vs "oh shoot I have to buy a new helmet." Even worse is the difference between "I have a headache" vs "he has been an unreliable mean SOB, with a foul mouth and a bad temper, who can't keep a job ever since that accident." Head trauma that does not kill you does not make you strong, sometimes it just make you a difficult brain damaged person who is miserable and makes everybody around them miserable. Death is not that big a deal it happens to everybody once. Brain damage is the gift that keeps on giving.

/rant mode off

Gunny.

My wife has been an Level 1 Trauma Center ER nurse for 14 years now, and my riding is something that will always bother her. I get to hear each and every one of the squished melon stories.

My personal experience is splitting the back open on a Bell fullface in 1981, after exiting the road, then my Yamaha 750 Seca, at a high rate of speed, while extremely inebriated. Two rules for me since the crash are always wear a helmet, and zero alcohol when piloting the scoot. I shouldn't actually be here with y'all, I'm not going to tempt fate again.

 

[Checkswrecks]

OK, that didn't go quite as intended. Guys, he says it jokingly. He knows all that has been written above. He just chooses not to wear a helmet. He uses his quote as sort of a self-delusionexcuse as to why, with all the evidence for helmets, he chooses to take the risk and ride without.

Fixed the above for ya.

I'm with jmdaniel in the "Cracked a Helmet Club" although mine was in 1975, when a Toyota coming at me turned left in front of me.

Your doc friend needs to spend more time in a rehab facility.

As for the original post, I tend to keep my visor about 3/4 up where there's a "sweet spot." Shoei RF1000 & CeeBailey +4+4 windshield.

 

[Scythian]

A buddy of mine says "The only difference in wearing a helmet or not is whether you spend a week in the ICU before you die." He's a doc, rides a Harley, and never wears a helmet. For me, I always wear one.

I had an RN pal who rode a Harley. He used to say that kind of thing all the time. He also used to excoriate me for wearing a helmet on my motorcycle 'cuz:

"You're just going to end up paralyzed when that helmet breaks your neck--or in a coma."

He said proudly: "I'd rather be dead."

Drunk, he hit a curb in Sturgis and went over the handlebars at about 20mph and landed on his head.

He was in a coma for 8 months until he mercifully died of a heartattack.

The best one was my pal, Jay, who busted his nogging on the pavement tooling around on a dirtbike.

He was never right again: He developed a fascination with my pal Matt's weight. Every time he saw, or talked to Matt, he would try to trick him into getting on a scale or telling him what his weight was.

"Yeah, Matt...." He'd say: "I'd like to get you on a scale!" Weird!

I don't always wear a helmet. Sometimes it's nice not to, but it's not smart....

last year I had a 1" rock get thrown up by a car in front of me on the highway. It came over the windscreen and hit me square in the middle of the helmet visor. It sounded like a gunshot and it took a nice nick out of the visor--we admired the nick when I got to work.

The guys wearing doo-rags on the highway obviously haven't been hit in the chops by a rock yet....

 

[HaulinAshe]

You didn't say if your CB shield is flip, or no flip.
I ride with a CB +4w, +2h w/flip and HJC AC-12 helmets. Have noticed turbulence at the very edge of the CB airstream is extremely noisy. Get one inch below or one inch into the stream and things definitely quieten down.

No Flip, Stock Profile, but I will probably get a +4h next time. Yeah, ducking behind the windscreen drastically reduces noise, but isn't very comfortable.

The flip will allow you to use a shield that is 1-2" shorter, yet have the same height/size air pocket. I highly recommend trying one.

Before you give your existing shield away at bargain pricing, you might ask CB if they can "flip" your shield. They might be able to make that modification. I dunno.

 

[Fred W]

As others have stated, I'm all for making your own decisions and taking personal responsibility. Whenever that is truly possible.

Unfortunately that is impossible in this particular situation in modern society. Sure, you can decide not to wear protective gear, and you will be responsible for the physical outcome. But you are not taking the full financial responsibility for the increased risk. Even if you have the best insurance available.

The increased costs of caring for (or burying) your damaged body do not get "covered" by the money that you personally sent in premiums. They get paid from the "pool" of money the insurance company takes in from all motorcyclists. So guess what, everyone else's insurance rates go up. And if you don't have insurance, it gets paid for by the "General Hospital" they take you to or the government, which means all hospital goers have to pay more.

In essence, everyone else has to subsidize your "choice".

Oh, and they don't get to choose not to subsidize you. How's that for freedom of choice?

 

[fretbender]

I saw some interesting stats on the iihs website regarding helmet use. . .mostly the same stuff we all know. But I did see something that surprised me. They claim motorcycle theft rates have been noted to decline in places where all motorcyclists are required to wear helmets. Apparently not too many thieves carry a helmet around with them and don't like the extra attention of riding helmetless. Still, for the record I'm against mandating helmet laws, even though I always wear a helmet & my Shoei certainly saved me a lot of grief last summer.

IIHS helmet use website

 

[993_Pilot]

The visor is simply acting as a spoiler. Very common trait. Does the same as:
https://rumble-strips.com/

Actually, they are completely different. With the visor up, it smooths out the laminar flow. "Rumble Strips" are acting as what is called Boundary Layer Energizers, and disrupt the flow. The biggest difference is that the BLE's will decrease the lift and buffeting, but probably not make it any quieter.

 

[jacko]

You guys ever heard of a Super Visor ,not really a good name ,but its peak that attaches to ya shield , great for riding into the sun or any bright sky and might even quiten things down a bit

I will never be with out one

Jacko

 

[993_Pilot]

You guys ever heard of a Super Visor ,not really a good name ,but its peak that attaches to ya shield , great for riding into the sun or any bright sky and might even quiten things down a bit
I will never be with out one

Jacko

I've never heard of it or seen one. Any links ?

 

[SMC]

Helmets -
Quiet the ride.

Reduce sunburn.

Prevent windburn.

Protect your eyes.

Improve the music in the headphones.

And, most parts of the body will heal after breaking, but not your brain.

I might be crazy, but I ain't stupid.

+1

 

[jacko]

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