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It’s important to mentor new riders, but to what extent?

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At Eight o’clock on a Saturday morning, I poured myself a cup of coffee, grabbed the newspaper and slipped out onto the deck, looking for some peace and quiet. My kids were already running through the house, begging to play Tourist Trophy on the Play Station, smacking each other in the head, and doing anything else they could possibly think of to jump on my last nerve. Stepping through the door I’d expected the weather to be decent, but what I walked out into was the most beautiful spring morning so far this year.

After I’d been out there for a bit just sitting and relaxing, my ears suddenly perked to the distinct scream of a sportbike far off in the distance. Immediately, I considered the direction of the sound, and calculated which road the bike must be traveling. As the rider let off the throttle, the sound would disappear. After a few seconds, I heard the note pick up again as the rider exited a small set of twisties and accelerated onto the next long straight stretch. My God, I love that awesome sound, and the still morning provided a perfect setting to just listen and try to imagine what the rider was doing by the note of the engine screaming through the exhaust pipe. Few things are as relaxing to me as the sound of a lone bike getting ripped at a distance. As I listened a bit longer, the rider drew closer and the sound faded out as he slowed to adhere to the 30 mph speed limit entering town. Interest peaked; I waited for the bike to pass by so I could see who it was. I’d only met a few riders since moving to the area, and was eager to get a mental picture of everyone on a sport bike with the hopes of catching them out and getting a few riding partners for the many nice summer days to come.

The rider rounded the bend on my road and locked up the rear brake, sliding to a screeching halt right in front of my house. It was Bob, a nice younger guy I’d met only a few days earlier at a gas station. I liked Bob right off the bat. He had a great personality, a very level head, and was just a little cocky. Not unsociably cocky, but displaying a very high level of confidence with an equally good mix of rationality. No wonder, since the kid was damn smart; a junior in college working on a Bachelor’s degree in engineering. Being a father myself, I’m always compelled to ask about grades, and his reply was that he’d never gotten anything bellow a “B”. Obviously, Bob was a well rounded kid with a good head on his shoulders. He had a pretty sweet ride too. It was a modern, heavyweight-class Japanese inline-four sportbike, and he knew the machine intimately. He’d made a number of modifications to his cycle, but had forgone the usual chrome and bling, instead going for performance upgrades he‘d read about on some internet forums. The bike sported an Ohlins rear shock, Race Tech springs and valves, PCIII, and that loud-ass, attention-getting D&D pipe which he surely could have done without. Impressively, he’d done all this work himself. Not bad for a college kid with 6 months of motorcycle ownership under his belt. Clearly though, he’d yet to learn about protective riding gear.

My kids had left a hard rubber baseball out on the deck, and it happened to be lying conveniently close to my chair. I picked up the ball and gave it a good throw. With perfect accuracy, I succeeded in bouncing it right off the side of Bob’s head.

“Hey, stupid,” I jeered. “If you’d been wearing a helmet that wouldn’t have hurt, would it? What the hell‘s wrong with you boy? Put a lid on that ugly head of yours.”

“Shut up and get dressed old man!” Bob replied. “I’ll show you some good roads if you show me how to ride them faster.” And with that, the course of our day was set.

I went down and let him in, fixing him a cup of coffee while offering up a solid scolding for his not wearing a helmet. Safety first, right? From there I headed upstairs, got dressed and grabbed a helmet for him to wear.

The ride started off with an explosion of adrenalin. I headed out of town with him in tow, clicked my beloved machine into third gear, stepped back onto the passenger pegs, revved the bike to six grand, grabbed a few fingers worth of clutch and rolled on a fistful of high-octane throttle. Up, up, and away I went, just to show my young friend who was the alpha dog in this pack. I passed the 55 mph speed limit rolling past 110 while still on the rear wheel and by then the front wheel had come to a complete stop. I eased off the gas, set the front down, scooted forward and a little off the right side, put my head down and threw the bike into a long right hand sweeper. Up the hill and into a long straight I slowed down and let him catch back up so we could ride to the next town for gas.

While stopped at the gas station, the kid bombarded me with questions about how to do stand ups and how to take turns so fast. At that point the “old man” side of my personality kicked back in and I steered the conversation toward safety, limits, consequences, and getting on a track as opposed to going fast on the street. After that I started sharing some of the easier tips about going through turns. I explained to Bob about hanging off the side of the bike with his head and shoulder down, looking through the turn and holding one single line from entry to exit. I figured that these were things we could work on at speeds closer to the posted limit. He seemed pretty receptive to my words and was eager to get out and learn. Bob suggested that we ride to a road he knew of that wandered through some hilly country and was littered with sharp turns. How could I turn down an offer like that?

When we reached the good twisties, I waved Bob around me to take the lead. As I followed him, what I’d originally expected to be a mildly heated run through the curves quickly became a dangerous attempt on Bob’s part to drag a knee. Considering that he was only dressed in jeans and was still a long way from knowing what he was doing, I passed when I could, took the lead and slowed the pace until we reached the end of the road. At this point, I had a stern talk with him about what I’d seen.

We spent the rest of the day on that one road. It was an ideal stretch for what we were doing, offering eight miles of turns, no houses, good pavement, and very few cars. Things went well and I felt that Bob was really starting to pick things up and hit the turns as he should. We even managed to stay relatively close to the speed limit throughout most of the day. I kept pushing the idea that Bob should consider doing a track day and continue his education in the proper environment, but to be honest, what we were doing was still pretty damn fun. For the first time I was teaching the thing I love most, and experiencing the joy of seeing my student really move up.

Eventually, the sun began to fall behind the hills, so we made one final ungodly-fast run down the road. It was really cool seeing this kid rail through the turns on our last run. We’d been up and down that road at least 20 times, and on his first trip, Bob had been doing all he could just to hold one line, stay in his own lane, and keep his bike on the pavement. On that last blast, he was totally smooth, easing on and off the front brake, not touching the rear brake, using the clutch to smooth out his entrance, taking the entire curve in one flowing arc, and lifting his knee to keep the road from eating up the 1/16 of an inch of denim that was between his skin and the asphalt. My heart swelled with pride as Bob demonstrated how well he’d applied my teachings for the day.

We stopped at the end of the road, said our goodbyes, and thanked each other for a day that I’m positive I will never forget. Again I reminded Bob that though we’d been on an isolated stretch, the kind of riding we’d been doing and the speeds we’d been running should really be avoided on public roads. I gave Bob one last pitch about doing a trackday, reminding him that a closed course is always the best place to rail. Then I told him that the helmet was his to keep if he made me a personal promise to never ride without it again. He agreed, we shook hands, and we went our separate directions home.

When I got home, I found a missed call on my cell phone from Bob. The voice mail was odd, seemingly nothing but what might have been the sound of an idling engine. Later in the evening, I got a call from his sister. I’d been the last call Bob had made on his cell phone, with the call time coming just minutes before a passerby took the phone from his hand to call 911.

At 20 years young, Bob lost his life and the endless possibilities that stretched ahead of him. I only got to know Bob for about five days. In that short span, I learned just enough about him to mourn the bright future destroyed that evening. I know about the girlfriend who inundated his thoughts. Bob was so excited talking to her on the phone that afternoon, telling her about the great day he was having. That last “I love you” he said now means more than any “I love you” she will ever hear again. I also know that the visit his parents were planning for the next weekend will be one of sorrow instead of joy. The anticipated smiles and hugs over his good grades have now been transformed into little more than an unexpected final goodbye.

What I must live with now is the thought that I should have never taught him to do what he was doing out there. Would it have happened anyway? I’m inclined to think probably not. Bob was an accident waiting to happen before I taught him how to handle his machine, but at least he had a bit of fear to keep him in check. By teaching Bob I helped him to overcome that fear, but his newfound confidence very likely contributed to his end. The final result is now just another statistic. Bob is now just one more rider down whose short lifetime won’t be considered when the numbers are tallied. Instead, his death will be just another number on a sheet of paper which outlines the many dangers of this sport that we all hold so dear to our hearts. But to me that added number means so much more. That added number was caused by an experienced rider who should have known better. By someone who should have practiced what he preached. I can only hope that by sharing this story, I may be able to prevent the next would-be mentor from making the same mistake with the next fresh young rider who looks up to him. Through this story, maybe another needless loss can be prevented.

I’m a hard person to bring to tears. I’ve seen more than my fair share of death and have had the honor to sit with more than a few loved ones in their last moments of life. I’ve become pretty hardened to death over the years, but for the life of me I cannot come to a comfortable conclusion over the loss of someone not even old enough to legally enjoy the rum and coke that I’m clinging to as I type this with tear filled eyes and trembling hands that can’t seem to find the right keys.

The only thing left to say is the very thing I said so many times to Bob. The very lesson that I was ignoring as I tried to teach it. The one phrase that I uttered a hundred times, even as my actions spoke louder than my words. “Take it to the track.”

Godspeed, buddy. Godspeed.

(Editor’s Note: Experienced riders are almost obligated to help newcomers to the sport. Every day, beginners buy high-performance sportbikes without having the first clue how to handle them. Who else is going to save these riders from themselves, if not those of us who have come before? The problem lies in deciding what, where and how much to teach. The preceding article horrifically illustrates just how wrong you can go when you’re trying to do the right thing. The best course of action is to teach, preach, and exhibit safe riding practices on the street, then bring those green riders to a trackday where they can explore their machines in the relative safety of a closed course environment.)

From: Trackdaymag.com

 
While I disagree with most forms of restrictions on who rides and/or wears what, this well written (and heartfelt) missive makes me wonder if there should be some sort of controls in place by the industry. It scares the hell out of me that anyone, even a person whol has never ridden before, can go down and buy a FJR, Hayabusa, or whatever and hit the road with it. I'm an older rider who has been around bikes for 30 years plus, but shiver when I think of some of the things I pulled and got away with. This was back when a really fast bike was anything that would run a true "ton" which is just 2nd or 3rd gear now. I know that here will be a lot of negative comments on my second sentence, but wonder if anyone out there agrees.

 
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While I disagree with most forms of restrictions on who rides and/or wears what, this well written (and heartfelt) missive makes me wonder if there should be some sort of controls in place by the industry. It scares the hell out of me that anyone, even a person whol has never ridden before, can go down and buy a FJR, Hayabusa, or whatever and hit the road with it. I'm an older rider who has been around bikes for 30 years plus, but shiver when I think of some of the things I pulled and got away with. This was back when a really fast bike was anything that would run a true "ton" which is just 2nd or 3rd gear now. I know that here will be a lot of negative comments on my second sentence, but wonder if anyone out there agrees.
I don't know the answer, but also wonder if some of the bikes you mention shouldn't require a certain level of proficiency to buy or be licensed to ride -- as in a two level licensing requirement. 40+ years for me, and like you, I shudder at some of what I did at 19 on a BSA 650 that was an underpowered dog compared to what is almost considered entry level to some now. I can think of at least two occasions when I was 19 to 21 that the power of a modern big bike would have probably turned my stupid blind luck the other direction.

The related question is how much longer we will be free from much more undesirable gov't restrictions in what can be marketed as a result of irresponsible behavior by some riders. (And in that, each of us probably needs to ask ourselves how much we sometimes contribute to the image and statistics that will bring such restriction.)

Sad tale.

 
A few weekends back while taking my MSF RiderCoach class, a few of us talked about the idea of limiting the size of a bike a new rider could ride. If a rider had not had a motorcycle endorsement and signed the dotted line they have been riding for a minimum of two years the rider would be limited to a 999cc or less bike.

Sure, there will be people to work around the system. However, it might help just a few new riders not get hurt or killed.

 
I don't know the answer, but also wonder if some of the bikes you mention shouldn't require a certain level of proficiency to buy or be licensed to ride -- as in a two level licensing requirement. 40+ years for me, and like you, I shudder at some of what I did at 19 on a BSA 650 that was an underpowered dog compared to what is almost considered entry level to some now. I can think of at least two occasions when I was 19 to 21 that the power of a modern big bike would have probably turned my stupid blind luck the other direction.
The related question is how much longer we will be free from much more undesirable gov't restrictions in what can be marketed as a result of irresponsible behavior by some riders. (And in that, each of us probably needs to ask ourselves how much we sometimes contribute to the image and statistics that will bring such restriction.)

Sad tale.
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I'm done with counseling, mentoring, tutoring, lecturing... No one listens, so why waste the time.

- Crotchety Old ****

 
I'm done with counseling, mentoring, tutoring, lecturing... No one listens, so why waste the time.
- Crotchety Old ****
I guess for me if I can reach 1 out of 10, and that is optimistic, it is still worth it. Granted it gets harder and harder to motivate your self, but still.

As far as new riders and bikes. I get at least few during the teaching season that shows up on busa as a first bike.

 
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Well, the last thing I would do with a new rider is take off with a wheelie and get up to 110 as the first maneuver the kid saw me complete. The man already had the kid's confidence, or the kid wouldn't have asked for instruction. Show boating was not what the kid needed to see.

In terms of bike engine size limitations for new riders, I know Denmark has this kind of program. I'm not sure what the rules are, but a friend of mine that moved here from there explained them to me. Something about the first year of riding was on 250cc or less...something to that effect. If I wasn't so lazy, I'd look it up.

My wife's first bike, the FZ6 is something I am pretty sure she'll handle just fine. Why? She has more than a healthy dose of respect for what the right hand can do and she'll take it easy. I think an adult starting to ride is probably a lot safer than some kid. At least she has years of experience with driving, plenty of clutch practice, and has tens of thousands of miles as a passenger on a bike.

Obviously, right now, mentoring a new rider is pretty important to me. Believe me, we're not going anywhere near 100 MPH until I see total control demonstrated at every 10mph increment up to that, and then we should be at Streemasters anyway.

By the way, I'm going to start a thread on Streetmasters. I am shooting for the Sept 22 class. If I can get two or more riders to join us in registering, then we can get a group discount. Anyone interested?

 
My wife's first bike, the FZ6 is something I am pretty sure she'll handle just fine. Why? She has more than a healthy dose of respect for what the right hand can do and she'll take it easy. I think an adult starting to ride is probably a lot safer than some kid. At least she has years of experience with driving, plenty of clutch practice, and has tens of thousands of miles as a passenger on a bike.
Didn't you leave something else out, Andrew? Like: Sherri doesn't have a 21 year old male's testosterone level either?

By the way, I'm going to start a thread on Streetmasters. I am shooting for the Sept 22 class. If I can get two or more riders to join us in registering, then we can get a group discount. Anyone interested?
Maybe. Where is it, how many days and how much? (Ballpark figures will do.)

 
that sucks what a ****** uped story . and there are too many of them . just watch any jap. motorcycle tv spot and its all speed or what manufacture won in what class . the bikes are to fast and to light and nobody is going to do any thing aout it . just check out any 600cc bike its over 100 hp.

 
While I disagree with most forms of restrictions on who rides and/or wears what, this well written (and heartfelt) missive makes me wonder if there should be some sort of controls in place by the industry. It scares the hell out of me that anyone, even a person whol has never ridden before, can go down and buy a FJR, Hayabusa, or whatever and hit the road with it. I'm an older rider who has been around bikes for 30 years plus, but shiver when I think of some of the things I pulled and got away with. This was back when a really fast bike was anything that would run a true "ton" which is just 2nd or 3rd gear now. I know that here will be a lot of negative comments on my second sentence, but wonder if anyone out there agrees.
In Iowa and other states there is graduated licensing for youngsters. Any offense within the first year is an automatic revocation. After two years, the restrictions ease, after three I believe they're on a regular license. Such a plan for anyone getting their motorcyle endorsement would make sense. Start on a bike below 500cc, then up the limit as your time in the saddle progresses.

You can't legislate common sense, but you might be able to keep some people alive long enough to develop it.

Craig

 
Well, the last thing I would do with a new rider is take off with a wheelie and get up to 110 as the first maneuver the kid saw me complete. The man already had the kid's confidence, or the kid wouldn't have asked for instruction. Show boating was not what the kid needed to see.
In terms of bike engine size limitations for new riders, I know Denmark has this kind of program. I'm not sure what the rules are, but a friend of mine that moved here from there explained them to me. Something about the first year of riding was on 250cc or less...something to that effect. If I wasn't so lazy, I'd look it up.

My wife's first bike, the FZ6 is something I am pretty sure she'll handle just fine. Why? She has more than a healthy dose of respect for what the right hand can do and she'll take it easy. I think an adult starting to ride is probably a lot safer than some kid. At least she has years of experience with driving, plenty of clutch practice, and has tens of thousands of miles as a passenger on a bike.

Obviously, right now, mentoring a new rider is pretty important to me. Believe me, we're not going anywhere near 100 MPH until I see total control demonstrated at every 10mph increment up to that, and then we should be at Streemasters anyway.

By the way, I'm going to start a thread on Streetmasters. I am shooting for the Sept 22 class. If I can get two or more riders to join us in registering, then we can get a group discount. Anyone interested?

OV,

Jean on her Ninja 650R and I maybe interested. I know this is off topic, but let me know anyways.

Cougar,

Nice story- thanks for sharing. I am glad a buddy, Jay Larsson, started me off as a reentry rider the right way.

Barry

 
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Well I tend to oppose government regulations (I'm against seat belt & helmet laws although I use both) but I would not oppose age or experience based HP restrictions. I think HP is better than cc, 600cc bikes now can make well over 100 HP... NO (non modified) bike made over 100 HP when I started riding. Just my $0.02.

 
I'm done with counseling, mentoring, tutoring, lecturing... No one listens, so why waste the time.
- Crotchety Old ****
I guess for me if I can reach 1 out of 10, and that is optimistic, it is still worth it. Granted it gets harder and harder to motivate your self, but still.

As far as new riders and bikes. I get at least few during the teaching season that shows up on busa as a first bike.
I'm right on the cusp of no longer giving a crap. I hav ea few friends who are still newer riders, and I try to pass on ~30 years of riding mistakes, lessons and actually well-taught techniques that I've picked up in various classes and teaching... but I still battle the "I don't need any training 'cause I haven't been down in 20 years of riding" and the "I don't need to wear a helmet because I only ride a cruiser on back roads" crap.

It wears away at one's desire and ability to care.

 
I'm done with counseling, mentoring, tutoring, lecturing... No one listens, so why waste the time.
- Crotchety Old ****

I'd like to adopt that position...well, I guess I do! :blink: However, if they come to me and ask in a manner that I think they might listen...... Of course, I'm pretty much settling into the "touring" side of sport-touring anymore. And then there's the "Safety Lecture" before any group ride.

Cougar, the only thing you might have done differently is start with some basic safety advise and move gradually into higher speeds. Techniques can be practiced at slower speeds. IF Bob was going to ride like you heard him approaching your house, he was going to do so whether you taught him technique or not. Too many riders think its easy to twist the wrist and go fast without training and practice. I like Mike-H's mantra about "riding 7/10ths on the street", because you never know whats in or around the next corner. And that would mean the trainee's 70%, not the trainer's 70%.

 
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