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Well, if I did that every time...
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Well, if I did that every time... :D
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What actually happened was that I made a post that I thought was helpful to the OP. Unfortunately, having posted it, I realised that my facts were wrong.
Since I hate to admit to making mistakes, I decided to reduce my embarrassment factor by deleting what I had written. That way, no one would ever know I'd been in error.

Now everyone knows.

B*gg*r.

 
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Don

If you have an intermittent left push button on the gage pod that reacts favourably to the windshield being raised up, I would suggest that the front sub harness needs looking at. May be the connector to the gage pod above/behind the tach. Removing the upper faring plastics/headlight nacelle isn't that much more of a job (4 screws and it's off), and it will expose this front sub harness in all of its glory. You may see the ghost of Bambi doing a number on it.

Happy hunting.

Brodie

:)

ps... I've had to replace that 70 amp relay on my ignition relay harness too. They don't last forever.

 
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DonIf you have an intermittent left push button on the gage pod that reacts favourably to the windshield being raised up, I would suggest that the front sub harness needs looking at. May be the connector to the gage pod above/behind the tach. Removing the upper faring plastics/headlight nacelle isn't that much more of a job (4 screws and it's off), and it will expose this front sub harness in all of its glory. You may see the ghost of Bambi doing a number on it.

Happy hunting.

Brodie

:)

ps... I've had to replace that 70 amp relay on my ignition relay harness too. They don't last forever.
I agree mi amigo. Going further into it next week.

 
Check the voltage to the fuel pump it requires a min. of 12.4 volts. You charged your battery and worked for a while and then will not work. Need new battery and check voltage to the fuel pump while cranking

 
Took a detour and looked at charging circuit voltages.

  • ~30 VAC across alternator leads A B C
  • 15vdc at RR direct idling
  • 13.9 - 14.0 vdc at battery idling with krista's on

Next step - pull the nose and look for loose or corroded connections.... e.g. DIAG mode not available until windshield moved..

Check the voltage to the fuel pump it requires a min. of 12.4 volts. You charged your battery and worked for a while and then will not work. Need new battery and check voltage to the fuel pump while cranking
New battery already installed, weekend rider. She has started every time now... but I'm going to continue on and pull the nose and look... I've not been in there and who knows what those connections look like. Recall the DIAG mode wasn't available until I raised the windscreen. The batter drops to 11.2 when cranking as measured at battery.

 
I fixed it good

Cleaned and lubed ECU connector and other connectors in the general area.

Now it won't start.

Spins good, no fire.

WOT = nothing.,

Sigh.

 
... She has started every time now... but I'm going to continue on and pull the nose and look...
As a nuclear technician you should know that you broke the main rule. When it works don't "fix" it.

Just exactly how many thumbs do you have anyways?

 
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I fixed it goodCleaned and lubed ECU connector and other connectors in the general area.

Now it won't start.

Spins good, no fire.

WOT = nothing.,

Sigh.
Got spark?

If not, look for a cause.

If you have spark (and its not flooded) then its fuel (or lack thereof).

Pull a plug and see if its wet (flooded). Crank with the plug grounded and see if it sparks.

Injectors firing (from diagnostic)?

Fuel pump test?

Fuel pressure on rail test?

Has to be something simple.

Good luck!

Edit: I know that you know all of this. I think you're just trying to build suspense!

With all the work you have put into it, it had better make the 200,000 miles (and then some)!

 
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Carver, the best way to check the spark is to connect the plug, stick it down the front of your pants (or hold onto it) and hit the start button. You will know if there is spark, immediately.

 
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I have been following this thread to learn the solution to the problem. I am pulling for Carver to get KrZy8 going again!

 
I have been following this thread to learn the solution to the problem. I am pulling for Carver to get KrZy8 going again!

When you say "pulling for Carver" what does that mean exactly?

I know what it infers over here but just wondering...................

 
When you say "pulling for Carver" what does that mean exactly?

I know what it infers over here but just wondering...................
You people from across the pond are truly bent. mcatrophy: Canuckistani Billy Fitz is talking about you!
I still believe that our Amigo 'Zilla from Neuvo Mexico has the best solution yet, ese: "Carver, the best way to check the spark is to connect the plug, stick it down your pants (or hold onto it) and hit the start button. You will know if there is spark immediately." You know DC will do this!

 
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This is a bit off topic, but it is Friday ...

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You people from across the pond are truly bent.
mcatrophy: Canuckistani Billy Fitz is talking about you!
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No need to shout, I'm aware of his slight over-emphasis of our characteristics.

Anyway, Donal, whose post preceded yamafitter's remark, comes from Holt, a village in Norfolk. Now, this area has something of the characteristics of some of the southern states of the U.S., where inbreeding is the norm. So Donal's opinions are to be viewed as not necessarily those of the rest of the UK.

Hmm. Just remembered. I was born in Norwich, which is a town in Norfolk, only 20 miles away. Got to consider that. Think I'll get my banjo out and strum a little.

 
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... She has started every time now... but I'm going to continue on and pull the nose and look...
As a nuclear technician you should know that you broke the main rule. When it works don't "fix" it.

Just exactly how many thumbs do you have anyways?
Hey, the reactor has to start and stop on command, yes? Gees, BillieBob, how long has it been since you've seen a neutron?
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Carver, the best way to check the spark is to connect the plug, stick it down your pants (or hold onto it) and hit the start button. You will know if there is spark immediately.
You know what, I'm gonna do it, just to prove your theory. I'll post video when done.
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When you say "pulling for Carver" what does that mean exactly?

I know what it infers over here but just wondering...................
You people from across the pond are truly bent. mcatrophy: Canuckistani Billy Fitz is talking about you!
I still believe that our Amigo 'Zilla from Neuvo Mexico has the best solution yet, ese: "Carver, the best way to check the spark is to connect the plug, stick it down your pants (or hold onto it) and hit the start button. You will know if there is spark immediately." You know DC will do this!
Hey now, it's good to know somebodies pulling for me!

....and now back to the stuff.

SHE RUNS!

Found a loose spider connection to the Brodie harness, the spider near the ECU. And yes, I had cleaned and lubed it while working the ECU connector. So, bad tech, no bone. I'm gonna fire that freaking ***** or hook up a spark plug to the sack in search of sparkage.
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It has started every time the last12 or times.. not sure if it's really fixed as I don't have a smoking gun. It has a leaky fork seal so she'll be on the lift for a bit anyway. The lowers are off, I'll inspect all those connectors while contemplating pulling the nose to get to the connections coming from the instrument panel.

Remember I still can't get to the CO screen on the panel, and couldn't get to the DIAG screen until the windscreen was raised.

 
Hmmm........ check the pins in the ECM connector as well as the ECM socket - they can drift back and lose contact. The inability to access the CO screen makes me think this.

Or there might be a dirt clod lodged in there from that road to your house.....also check for errant deer hairs.
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Hmmm........ check the pins in the ECM connector as well as the ECM socket - they can drift back and lose contact. The inability to access the CO screen makes me think this.
Or there might be a dirt clod lodged in there from that road to your house.....also check for errant deer hairs.
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This is why kaitsdad is smartest man on FJR Forum, next to Bustanut joker-RadioHowie-odot. Shocked Hal didn't mention a loose nut at the handlebars!

 
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