Like I said, don't want to compare anything because that just starts another oil thread. The point I'm making is that tan cap is most likely gone and may be in a silver cap or some other color. Used to be you could just grab a jug of red cap and it was 15w50, all the different kinds were color coded. Yes, 15w50 and 10w40 are different, that is equivalent to saying black and white are different, totally different formulas whether or not they are car or bike oils. Now they are making two automotive 10W40's and MX4T. Maybe they are three totally different oils, maybe they are just one with three bottles. Don't know and don't care. I do know all three satisfy Yamaha warranty requirements (I checked with Yamaha). It just means there are more choices available than just Yamalube 20w40.
this happened close to a year ago, and not necessarily in my location, as it was discussed on another m/c website, due to the concerns of the new formulation of the mobil synth. i was lucky enough to snatch up three cases of it from a meijer store that had it sitting in the back room. since i still have some left, not sure what oil i'll use after i'm out.
Feathers aren't ruffled. Just way too easy to start those synthetic versus dino, or bike oil versus car oil threads. IMO, it really doesn't matter anywhere near as much as the amount of discussion would indicate. The original post was primarily targeted to a whole bunch of guys who have been using Mobil 1 products for a long time to say there are some changes out there.
Exactly so.... sprint_st is spot on the money here.
I will add this bit of information:
This is not debatable, it is fact, if you don't believe me call any major oil company's customer support who have people who answer technical questions - virtually ALL motor oils contain friction modifiers to some extent or other. I really don't want to trigger an oil thread.
+1 Been running either M1 15-50 or 10-40, both old cap and new cap, since Frank had 1000 miles, now have 30K and a sweeter clutch doesn't exist.
do you have a P.O.C. for that confirmation? it might help a lot of folks whose local dealers are trying push their branded snake oils.
If for some reason I get distracted and don't come back with a reply to this, somebody PM me, but I wrote the date, time and name down on my YES contract. Let me emphasize that I asked the guy point blank, would 10W40 void my warranty. Yes he did dance a bit, but the answer was no. I fully understand why he danced. There is for instance a 20W40 oil made for natural gas engines. Not sure who made it, maybe Amsoil, but when I checked into it, I was told that the additive package contained 'something' which I don't recall, gettin' older guys, that wasn't the greatest for motorcycles. So maybe someone makes a 10W40 that is chock full of molybdenum disulfide. That might void a warranty issue for something, but, while clubbing this dead horse to death, a main line Mobil 1 10W40 will not void your warranty.
"...not debatable", where does your infallibility eminate from? My post accurately reported exactly what the Mobil1 rep stated when we had them on the phone at AutoZone. And your suggestion to call a customer support helpdesk is exactly what my post said we were doing when we were told that Mobil1 motorcycle specific oils do not contain molybdenum as do the Mobil1 automotive oils. Perhaps your infallibility is interferring with you reading comprehension.
You may equate "not debatable" with infallibility if you like. It is absolutely true one can debate whether or not the sun comes up in the east. What made my statement "not debatable" was that any contrary position would be totally contrary to the facts. Whose facts? Not mine, but the oil companies who I recommended that any doubters contact. That fact was not something I pulled out of my hind quarters, it came from several petroleum engineers which many major oil companies have available on customer service lines. When I have a question, I go to the source for an answer which I suggest that you do as well.
