More info on electric shift '06 AE

[Constant Mesh]

https://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/yccs.aspx

 

[RadioHowie]

Here's my FAVORITE copy-n-paste from the page:

Stopped in gear with engine off -- Try to push the bike -- The bike will be in gear like any traditional manual transmission. However, if you turn the key on and pull the front brake, the clutch will disengage so that you can push the bike.

So you stopped in gear, turned off the engine and try to push the bike. Won't go, 'cause it's in gear. So, turn the key on and pull the front brake. Sure, the clutch disengages, but you still can't push the *****, 'cause you're pulling the damn front brake. :haha:

[SIZE=7pt]I'm guessin' the clutch "stays" disengaged after you pull the brake lever[/SIZE]

 

[twowheelnut]

Yeah, I caught that one too when it first went up last year. Funny as hell, those tech writers! :lol:

 

[zzkenoman]

I'm worried about an electrical failure during riding, what if your electrical system dies? There would be no way to disengage the clutch right? If that happens, wouldn't that spell desaster? If your in the #1 lane, power goes out, you and the bike would slow down too quickly to move into the emergency lane. At least with the option of a manual clutch you can disengage the clutch and coast moderately.

 

[FantasticJohnR]

Actually, I was skeptical of the AE technology-I was most worried that it would automatically shift on me when i wouldn't want it to (like in the car technology) but after reading the information- I am more interested. I actually have severe "tennis elbow" in both arms and have ahd some arthroscopic surgery on both- my lef arm still hurts lots during rides- not having a clutch lever sounds more appealing to me.

We are all driving FJRs with shaft drives, power windshields and other adjustments galor (the 06 even has adjustable headlights) - so we are technology embracers- aren't we? Who wants to go back to the orignal moto thumpers of the 30s and 40s?

 

[lotecredneck]

Actually, I was skeptical of the AE technology-I was most worried that it would automatically shift on me when i wouldn't want it to (like in the car technology) but after reading the information- I am more interested. I actually have severe "tennis elbow" in both arms and have ahd some arthroscopic surgery on both- my lef arm still hurts lots during rides- not having a clutch lever sounds more appealing to me.
We are all driving FJRs with shaft drives, power windshields and other adjustments galor (the 06 even has adjustable headlights) - so we are technology embracers- aren't we? Who wants to go back to the orignal moto thumpers of the 30s and 40s?

Good point John. If nobody embraced the automatic transmission we would still be driving non-syncronized 3 speed transmissions in our cars! Technology drives todays society with products like the "Blackberry" or the "Razr" that are embraced by most, but the thought of change in the way we ride a motorcycle is still scoffed at by quite a large part of the population. Look closely at a great deal of those and you will probably see one of those items hanging on their belt.

Tony

 

[Toecutter]

Good point John. If nobody embraced the automatic transmission we would still be driving non-syncronized 3 speed transmissions in our cars! Technology drives todays society with products like the "Blackberry" or the "Razr" that are embraced by most, but the thought of change in the way we ride a motorcycle is still scoffed at by quite a large part of the population. Look closely at a great deal of those and you will probably see one of those items hanging on their belt.  
Tony

And those damned bluetooth ear things. People walkin' around lookin' like the Borg. Resistance is futile! Monday I was out of town and needed Gary Mc Coy's phone number. Ack, no internet, where I keep it stored. I called both forum members whose numbers were stored in my cell. One of 'em called me back the next day. Never heard from the other. I don't think we FJR folks embrace technology in all areas of our lives...Luckily I was able to log on at a local coffee house. What a bargain, seven minutes of online access for only a buck!

 

[SkooterG]

I'm worried about an electrical failure during riding, what if your electrical system dies? There would be no way to disengage the clutch right? If that happens, wouldn't that spell desaster? If your in the #1 lane, power goes out, you and the bike would slow down too quickly to move into the emergency lane. At least with the option of a manual clutch you can disengage the clutch and coast moderately.

Oh c'mon. Youse gotta be kidding me.

When was the last time you heard of an electrical failure to an FJR?

You are more likely to suffer problems due to an earthquake while riding than an electrical failure. And on a conventional FJR, what's to stop some magical gas leak from turning you into a rolling shisk-ka-bob? Or what if the hocus pocus in the ABS system decides to all of sudden apply max braking all on its own?

Yikes! Maybe we shouldn't ride motorcycles at all! Or any other modern mechanized vehicle!

Let's just all go back to our caves, where its nice and safe.

 

[BrunDog]

What do you expect? It's a scooter!

-BD

 

[Kevin]

When was the last time you heard of an electrical failure to an FJR?

Good point. If there were an electrical failure, the EFI would stop as well. So, EFI stops, engine stops, AE still rolling at 70 MPH? I suspect something would keep the clutch disengaged.

 

[zzkenoman]

Oh c'mon.  Youse gotta be kidding me.
When was the last time you heard of an electrical failure to an FJR?

You are more likely to suffer problems due to an earthquake while riding than an electrical failure.  And on a conventional FJR, what's to stop some magical gas leak from turning you into a rolling shisk-ka-bob?  Or what if the hocus pocus in the ABS system decides to all of sudden apply max braking all on its own?

Yikes!  Maybe we shouldn't ride motorcycles at all!  Or any other modern mechanized vehicle!

Let's just all go back to our caves, where its nice and safe.

Did you have a bad Easter? I hope you have a better one, because your comments are uncalled for.

There will always be problems associated with any motorcycle, regardless of make or model. I know personally a guy who had his battery cables come loose when he took his new 05 Yamaha Roadstar. Rode about 6 miles and died, no lights, no power, it shut off completely. He found the dealer did not tighten his terminal screws of his battery. So it may not be a catastrophic melt down, it could be as simple as the above example to cause a electrical problem.

We are all here to find probable answers to probable questions only. Have a nice day sir!

 

[tripletango]

What do you expect? It's a scooter! 
-BD

Naaa BD this is a real sport touring scooter!

 

[Bounce]

Did you have a bad Easter? I hope you have a better one, because your comments are uncalled for.

Naw. That's the forum. SG's just funnin' wi cha.

Like I told my kids today. How can you have a bad easter? It's a day honoring a hippie! Peace out, man!

 

[Cal24Master]

I'm worried about an electrical failure during riding, what if your electrical system dies? There would be no way to disengage the clutch right? If that happens, wouldn't that spell desaster? If your in the #1 lane, power goes out, you and the bike would slow down too quickly to move into the emergency lane. At least with the option of a manual clutch you can disengage the clutch and coast moderately.

I would be worried about a tire failure than a complete electrical melt down. I just wouldn't pay the extra 2 grand for it.

Tom

 

[Toecutter]

Like I told my kids today. How can you have a bad easter?

If he decides not to come back, AGAIN!

 

[dcarver]

We are all driving FJRs with shaft drives, power windshields and other adjustments galor (the 06 even has adjustable headlights) - so we are technology embracers- aren't we?

Yeah... That's why ALL the 06's get a maximum of 17 mpg instantaneous mpg... hmm.. shift once for first.. shift twice for third... upshift once more for second.. yeah.. thats the ticket...

 

[SkooterG]

Did you have a bad Easter? I hope you have a better one, because your comments are uncalled for.
There will always be problems associated with any motorcycle, regardless of make or model. I know personally a guy who had his battery cables come loose when he took his new 05 Yamaha Roadstar. Rode about 6 miles and died, no lights, no power, it shut off completely. He found the dealer did not tighten his terminal screws of his battery. So it may not be a catastrophic melt down, it could be as simple as the above example to cause a electrical problem.

We are all here to find probable answers to probable questions only. Have a nice day sir!

(Note proper use of the quote function)

My comments "uncalled for"? How did you come to that conclusion, Einstein?

You posted what I consider be completely ridiculous assertions on why to "be afraid" of the AE, and I am just supposed to let it slide? I would say my comments were very called for - by you. That's what this forum is all about right? Or is everybody just supposed to agree with you?

Dude. Don't take yourself, or me, too seriously. Waaaaay too much of that going on around here lately.

Happy Easter!

 

[Dangerous Dave]

Ok, check me on this....while there is no clutch lever, there is still a shift lever, and I'm assuming (maybe incorrectly) that there's a neutral position available with that shift lever??? So in the highly unlikely event that engine and electricity shut down simultaneously, couldn't you just shift to neutral with your foot and start pushing???

 

[tripletango]

I'm worried about an electrical failure during riding, what if your electrical system dies?  There would be no way to disengage the clutch right?  If that happens, wouldn't that spell desaster?  If your in the #1 lane, power goes out, you and the bike would slow down too quickly to move into the emergency lane.  At least with the option of a manual clutch you can disengage the clutch and coast moderately.

I would be worried about a tire failure than a complete electrical melt down. I just wouldn't pay the extra 2 grand for it.

Tom

Just don't have a complete electrical failure on a BMW. The brakes will not work! At least on a FJR there is plenty of brake action with power off!