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I am ******* speechless.
Was that the plan? :****:
I believe the plan is we get your bike fixed and then at your "coming out" party, you supply the BEER & BBQ :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: !

You should be back on the road in no-time!

Shane

 
Waiting for next pay day then I too will contribute. (end of month, keep this thread alive till them, boys)
Sounds good.

[SIZE=14pt]Donations accepted until midnight October 2nd. September 4th.[/SIZE]

Anyone who doesn't know the efforts this man has put forth for the good of the members here should take a look at the fantastic deal he offered all of us on his special wrench for the bearing nut adjustment. You can trust him completely to do as he says...
'fantastic deal' ? ? That doesn't sound like me. You may be refering to just roy <Link>

My only character witness mistakes me for someone else. :blink:
Well, ****... that's embarrasing, 'cause you're correctomundo! I was thinking of JustRoy!! That'll teach me to post after just getting off a pisser of a Swing Shift.

It's all good anyway, and the donation stands.

Don

(Confused in Spokane)

 
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There are people far more qualified to take care of this, but ...
I have $32.62 in my PayPal account. I'll offer that up and I would be more than happy to collect the funds and forward them.

I also have an anodized set of PAIR covers that I made for Howie. I would like to see him get his bike back together so he can use 'em.

My PayPal account is Joe2Lmaker <at> yahoo <dot> com
Just sent $35. Is it true that anyone who contributes gets an unlimited free stay at Howie's house?

 
There are people far more qualified to take care of this, but ...
I have $32.62 in my PayPal account. I'll offer that up and I would be more than happy to collect the funds and forward them.

I also have an anodized set of PAIR covers that I made for Howie. I would like to see him get his bike back together so he can use 'em.

My PayPal account is Joe2Lmaker <at> yahoo <dot> com
Just sent $35. Is it true that anyone who contributes gets an unlimited free stay at Howie's house?
yeah, probably sharing his bed... :blink:

 
There are people far more qualified to take care of this, but ...
I have $32.62 in my PayPal account. I'll offer that up and I would be more than happy to collect the funds and forward them.

I also have an anodized set of PAIR covers that I made for Howie. I would like to see him get his bike back together so he can use 'em.

My PayPal account is Joe2Lmaker <at> yahoo <dot> com
Just sent $35. Is it true that anyone who contributes gets an unlimited free stay at Howie's house?
Why Yes!!...........I do believe that is true. I think he's got plenty of room!! :drinks:

 
I have been trying to follow this thread but it's been going a bit too fast to keep up. :) I don't know what your time line on this is but I just found out I am buying my bike back for $900. I have no idea what kind of shape it's really in, I do know the oil pan was damaged and it was leaking oil. The built in kill switch should have killed the motor before the puncture occurred so the motor should be fine.
Anyways, if the damage to the bike is excessive (ie frame, etc.) the head is Howie's, that was the plan all along. Problem is given my condition and the way this is progressing I can't say when I will know. If you don't want to wait put me in for $100.

Well if you do end up parting out your bike the funds collected can pay you something reasonable and cover the expense of shipping it, then paying whatever else is need to get that head installed.

Will a 2nd gen head be OK to graft onto a 1st gen? My first inclination would be that it should be no problemo, but... :unsure:

 
There are people far more qualified to take care of this, but ...
I have $32.62 in my PayPal account. I'll offer that up and I would be more than happy to collect the funds and forward them.

I also have an anodized set of PAIR covers that I made for Howie. I would like to see him get his bike back together so he can use 'em.

My PayPal account is Joe2Lmaker <at> yahoo <dot> com
Just sent $35. Is it true that anyone who contributes gets an unlimited free stay at Howie's house?
yeah, probably sharing his bed... :blink:
palerider, I believe you're correct. Just don't get a bed with the manatee in it. Unless there's a manatee in all of the beds!!!

 
In another thread it was concluded that a Gen II to Gen I motor swap may be possible, but not ideal. You'd be using all the EFI stuff from the Gen I motor and need to verify that the VSS will install into the Gen II block. I'd be a little shy about this particular '08 motor myself, due to the hard hit to the rotor assembly. I'd worry about shaft/bearing damage the way that one is ground down and beaten up so much.

There are a couple of '05 motors on ebay currently, but the choice is up to Howie on which direction he wants to go and what to buy. Timing wise, there will always be more motors coming up on ebay. Sadly, also more forum bikes getting crashed too. An ideal candidate would be a known low mile good runner with no or minimal crash damage off the forum. Better documentation, and less stripping down. The ****** salvage guys even pull brake rotors off wheels.

 
There are people far more qualified to take care of this, but ...
I have $32.62 in my PayPal account. I'll offer that up and I would be more than happy to collect the funds and forward them.

I also have an anodized set of PAIR covers that I made for Howie. I would like to see him get his bike back together so he can use 'em.

My PayPal account is Joe2Lmaker <at> yahoo <dot> com
Just sent $35. Is it true that anyone who contributes gets an unlimited free stay at Howie's house?
yeah, probably sharing his bed... :blink:
palerider, I believe you're correct. Just don't get a bed with the manatee in it. Unless there's a manatee in all of the beds!!!
Others may like the manatees. I prefer the womanatees.

 
I have been trying to follow this thread but it's been going a bit too fast to keep up. :) I don't know what your time line on this is but I just found out I am buying my bike back for $900. I have no idea what kind of shape it's really in, I do know the oil pan was damaged and it was leaking oil. The built in kill switch should have killed the motor before the puncture occurred so the motor should be fine.
Anyways, if the damage to the bike is excessive (ie frame, etc.) the head is Howie's, that was the plan all along. Problem is given my condition and the way this is progressing I can't say when I will know. If you don't want to wait put me in for $100.

Well if you do end up parting out your bike the funds collected can pay you something reasonable and cover the expense of shipping it, then paying whatever else is need to get that head installed.

Will a 2nd gen head be OK to graft onto a 1st gen? My first inclination would be that it should be no problemo, but... :unsure:

My guess is that the heads are the same, but who knows. I understand that the coolant pipes going into the head are different, but do they attach to the head differently or are they just bent differently?

Howie will have to remind me, was it just the valve train or was the bottom end knackered also?

 
Yeah, I thought he only bent his valves. But we'll wait for him to tell us.

And I wasn't suggestion using the whole engine, just the head. If that is possible that would be the way to go.

He knows what his bottom end has been through already. Oh my... :blush:

 
RH has the benefit of knowing the history, maintenance and condition of his engine just before the Big Bang. All other engines are a guess, unless he knows the person that created the donor engine and the exact circumstances around the accident. Any replacement engine should have a leak-down test if at all possible, this test is far better than a compression test.

A Gen II can most likely be substituted but there are some considerations which were discussed in another thread.

In a perfect world, RH would pull his crank so he can inspect the crank plane bearings, rod bearings, rods and wrist pins for damage. Based on a large sample group of one, my engine, it would most likely be a good gamble that the reciprocating assembly is undamaged. In my case I had stuck rings on three of four pistons. Most likely nothing to do with the cam catastrophe but there was never going to be a better time to fix the problem with a new ring set.

If RH got his cylinder head off without fubaring it when removing the head bolts it should be ok to reuse. For the cost vs return, I would recommend having new valve guides installed. The valve seats need to be carefully inspected and possibly cleaned up with a little machining. With some careful work using a flat plate, V Blocks and a dial indicator the cams can be checked for shaft trueness, journal damage and lobe damage. I suspect that the cams can be reused. If the cams are replaced the cam caps should be replaced too.

I would recommend new buckets, valve springs and keepers to go along with the new valve set. The FSM says if you replace the cam chain it should be done as a set including the cam shaft sprockets.

All the little bits and pieces like the head gasket, side cover gaskets, o-rings, shims, keepers add up. The big ticket items are the cams, the cylinder head ($1.2k) and valves.

I have almost all the parts that RH needs, with the exception of a valve still stuck in the damaged cylinder head and one broken valve. I also have a full ring set, less one broken compression ring that was welded onto the piston. I will be willing to donate all these parts to his engine rebuild B) That's what friends are for!

 
RH has the benefit of knowing the history, maintenance and condition of his engine just before the Big Bang. All other engines are a guess, unless he knows the person that created the donor engine and the exact circumstances around the accident. Any replacement engine should have a leak-down test if at all possible, this test is far better than a compression test.
A Gen II can most likely be substituted but there are some considerations which were discussed in another thread.

In a perfect world, RH would pull his crank so he can inspect the crank plane bearings, rod bearings, rods and wrist pins for damage. Based on a large sample group of one, my engine, it would most likely be a good gamble that the reciprocating assembly is undamaged. In my case I had stuck rings on three of four pistons. Most likely nothing to do with the cam catastrophe but there was never going to be a better time to fix the problem with a new ring set.

If RH got his cylinder head off without fubaring it when removing the head bolts it should be ok to reuse. For the cost vs return, I would recommend having new valve guides installed. The valve seats need to be carefully inspected and possibly cleaned up with a little machining. With some careful work using a flat plate, V Blocks and a dial indicator the cams can be checked for shaft trueness, journal damage and lobe damage. I suspect that the cams can be reused. If the cams are replaced the cam caps should be replaced too.

I would recommend new buckets, valve springs and keepers to go along with the new valve set. The FSM says if you replace the cam chain it should be done as a set including the cam shaft sprockets.

All the little bits and pieces like the head gasket, side cover gaskets, o-rings, shims, keepers add up. The big ticket items are the cams, the cylinder head ($1.2k) and valves.

I have almost all the parts that RH needs, with the exception of a valve still stuck in the damaged cylinder head and one broken valve. I also have a full ring set, less one broken compression ring that was welded onto the piston. I will be willing to donate all these parts to his engine rebuild B) That's what friends are for!

Nice. Are you gonna pull his crank too?

 
RH has the benefit of knowing the history, maintenance and condition of his engine just before the Big Bang. All other engines are a guess, unless he knows the person that created the donor engine and the exact circumstances around the accident. Any replacement engine should have a leak-down test if at all possible, this test is far better than a compression test.
A Gen II can most likely be substituted but there are some considerations which were discussed in another thread.

In a perfect world, RH would pull his crank so he can inspect the crank plane bearings, rod bearings, rods and wrist pins for damage. Based on a large sample group of one, my engine, it would most likely be a good gamble that the reciprocating assembly is undamaged. In my case I had stuck rings on three of four pistons. Most likely nothing to do with the cam catastrophe but there was never going to be a better time to fix the problem with a new ring set.

If RH got his cylinder head off without fubaring it when removing the head bolts it should be ok to reuse. For the cost vs return, I would recommend having new valve guides installed. The valve seats need to be carefully inspected and possibly cleaned up with a little machining. With some careful work using a flat plate, V Blocks and a dial indicator the cams can be checked for shaft trueness, journal damage and lobe damage. I suspect that the cams can be reused. If the cams are replaced the cam caps should be replaced too.

I would recommend new buckets, valve springs and keepers to go along with the new valve set. The FSM says if you replace the cam chain it should be done as a set including the cam shaft sprockets.

All the little bits and pieces like the head gasket, side cover gaskets, o-rings, shims, keepers add up. The big ticket items are the cams, the cylinder head ($1.2k) and valves.

I have almost all the parts that RH needs, with the exception of a valve still stuck in the damaged cylinder head and one broken valve. I also have a full ring set, less one broken compression ring that was welded onto the piston. I will be willing to donate all these parts to his engine rebuild B) That's what friends are for!
So if the forum can get the RH's bike hauled to New Hampshire BEFORE winter hits, he should be able to ride home and enjoy the Florida WINTER :yahoo: !

I wish all forums were like this one!

Best Regards,

Shane

 
Crank??? :blink: ****! all this time I've thought I'd been pullin' his chain. :dribble: I must be a good friend by now eh?

:jester:

 
It's time for an update.

As of 5:25 PM today, the PayPal balance is [SIZE=12pt]$671.33.[/SIZE]

 
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An nary a bid.. Who knew? Come on folks did ya see whats up?

You'll actually get something for helping the Sea Cow lover...

:jester:

 
An nary a bid.. Who knew? Come on folks did ya see whats up?You'll actually get something for helping the Sea Cow lover...

:jester:
Start a separate thread for the auction Bust. It will be clearer what the action and intent is. It gets lost in the rest of this thread.

 
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