Spare Key

[eflyguy]

Have you locked your keys in the car?
If your car has remote keyless entry? This may come in handy someday. Good reason to own a cell phone:

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This is the kind of information people don't mind receiving, so pass it on to your family and friends

BS. Yet another piece of nonsense that went viral because people don't understand the tech.

 

[Cyclepath]

Unfortunately, I have to agree with eflygy - my education was Electronics Eng Tech, and I'm quite aware of the differences between a simple audio representation of an unlocking signal code (chirp sequence), vs. what the key fob and its receiver installed within the vehicle is designed to actually expect.

The key fob system transmits some variation of a pulse-width modulated medium frequency carrier signal, and the receiver is designed to distinguish that code sequence from all the other RF noise (electronic interference in our too-busy world now). Of course the system (fob + receiver) was designed to 'chirp' for the benefit of human ears - so that we know when it's being activated deactivated. That is totally separate from the RF modulated code sequence the receiver responds to.

Playing back even a high-fidelity sound sequence via a smartphone may control your Dad's old landline-based answering machine (they used to use a multi-tone sequence we could all hear), but a modern vehicle's door locks are a different beast - for a good reason: security.

 

[Bounce]

Sometimes I think that some of us, that have been here a while, forget that a "forum", by its nature, is to build a community and to do that you encourage dialogue, not ONLY the dispersing of information. The quickest way to END a group is to only have NEW info on it. If the post count gets so low, and the info so thin, no one will be coming by to check all the time. If that's the case, you could just put the info in a list and when someone new comes along refer them to the list. Like the old joke about the guys in prison who had heard ALL the jokes, so instead of telling the joke they would call out "#2" and everyone would laugh.
Perhaps if you see a topic that has been previously been hashed out posted by a new member YOU JUST DON"T READ THAT THREAD, instead of embarrassing them by pointing out that they should have done research instead of posting. If no one responds to a thread, it will die the quick death of dropping off the "list" quickly [which is what happens to most of my inane posts}. and there's always a chance that what the new guys want is to get in the conversation rather than just be informed. Just my opinion.

Pointing out where it's been discussed helps the questioner see the original where the answerers put their most effort into. After a while, duplicate answers (when given at all) are shorter and less detailed.

 

[Uncle Hud]

eflyguy posted: BS. Yet another piece of nonsense that went viral because people don't understand the tech.

Yeah, I thought keyless entry was from the proximity of the keyfob to whatever enables the ignition circuit. SacMike -- or someone -- please test it out and let us know.

As for hiding a spare key, there's a steel one one in my unlocked topbox. If the topbox is locked, a key had had to do it! (And the steel keys aren't as soft as the Yamaha originals.)

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Bounce posted: Pointing out where it's been discussed helps the questioner see the original where the answerers put their most effort into. After a while, duplicate answers (when given at all) are shorter and less detailed.

I agree, sir. We build a community by sharing experiences and knowledge.

Many, many questions have already been answered here. For a NEPRT thread like this (answered several times already), I don't usually bother reading the new one -- so the OP does not receive any benefit from me or from the folks that have contributed to the original thread.

For example, if the OP wants to share how he lost (and then found) his key, he can post his experience in the original thread. That way, the earlier contributed knowledge is not lost, and is actually updated by those who read the zombie thread. The OP -- and folks who joined after the original thread ended -- can read the zombie thread and gain something from all the previous responses, including stuff that probably won't make it into this new thread.

So, while us old guys might be bored by -- or completely avoid -- yet another NEPRT thread, we might be interested in reading a resurrected zombie thread like the one in Iggy's link where the last post was 2 years ago.

 

[Fred W]

Cell phones can’t open cars. Check SNOPES. Been debunked many times. But you can take off in an airplane from a conveyor belt.

 

[FJRPittsburgh]

At SEO a few years ago, one of our infamous riders lost his key, found it at Cracker Barrel. That's why I never have a spare key. The originals are easy to find. LOL

 

[FTL900]

...A little gorilla tape on the back of the plate and ,,," WALLA" Perfect hiding place !...

"voila"... used when showing to other people something that you have just made or got and are pleased with.

I do the same thing on my truck- hide it behind the license plate. Even if it's a chipped key to start it, a non-chipped key will unlock the door for you plus nobody can steal the vehicle because it's not chipped..

 

[harper]

When George helped me replace my stock rear shock with a Penske, it freed up an area where the preload lever used to be under a small steel plate with three studs welded onto it it. This was the perfect size and place to attach one of the magnetic box spare key holders. The black box looks like it's an integral part of the bike and belongs there. In addition there are no screws to take off to get to it.

Not all of my jackets have zippered inside pockets which to me seems to be the best solution. The inside-the-helmet-liner idea seems good as well but I would be concerned about how securely the key is nestled in there.

 

[roger dodger]

After digging into tight pockets too many times and wondering (loudly) if I lost the key...

I use an elastic coil around my wrist to hold the bike and trunk key. I have different colors for different bikes. If it's not in the bike, it's on my wrist. They are soft and secure and won't scratch the bike. Never lost one (or worried) since.

Back-up is always the inside jacket pocket (only on trips).

 

[Bounce]

So now that we've announced to the world where keys are hidden on our vehicles, what could possibly go wrong?

 

[harper]

So now that we've announced to the world where keys are hidden on our vehicles, what could possibly go wrong?

Yeah, with that new knowledge today there was a group of lowlifes milling around outside my house just waiting to steal my bike. Fortunately I recognized all of them because they were from the PNW faction of this forum. They were pretty easily distracted with a pie and a flip-card animation of a donkey. We're a simple bunch.

 

[Fred W]

Im pretty sure it was the pie. They dont unnerstand no flip charts