Vista Cruise Problems.

[Keone]

I tried installing my vista cruise last night to no avail. I can just barely get the unit loose enough in the unlocked state to NOT interfere with the throttle return. But at that adjustment, there isn't enough tension for the over-center lock to be engaged. It looks like they used some kind of glue to hold the spring in the right position, maybe there isn't enough "stuff" to keep the spring in place. Kinda bummed so I ordered TM hopefully they work, but I really would like to get the Vista to work the thum action of locking and unlocking seem more natural and easier to use than the TM

Any suggestions.

BTW I have a G2 throttle tube installed.

thanks

Keone

 

[FJrider1]

Maybe FJRtech can help?

https://www.fjrtech.com/getdbitem.cfm?item=23

 

[SkooterG]

What specifically do you mean by interfere?

I don't have the G2, so perhaps that is the problem.

Have you undone one of the throttle springs - the mod that is so popular around here? I suppose that could have an effect. Is it because the grip is pushing and creating tension? Perhaps sliding the grip out a few milimeters?

Make sure you test with the engine running. It's very possible that what seems to be binding in a static state will not bind when the engine is running and there is some inherent vibration.

Other than that I am not sure what to tell you. It's a fairly straightforward install that has performed well for thousands of miles for many of us.

 

[radman]

Though unfamiliar with the G2 config, that would be my best guess as to the problem also. Most likely the diameter of the G2 is larger than the nylon tube usually used on this install. Opening up the diameter of the Vista is one option, or locate a vista for a different make of bike that already has a larger throttle opening. Skoots suggestion, while he is trying to be helpful, is not a good plan. Unless your bike, like his, runs on 2-3 cylinders, I doubt there will be enough vibes to help.

 

[FJRMGM]

+1 to this ---> It's very possible that what seems to be binding in a static state will not bind when the engine is running and there is some inherent vibration.

 

[Keone]

What specifically do you mean by interfere?

allowing the throttle to return to closed unimpeded.

Have you undone one of the throttle springs - the mod that is so popular around here? I suppose that could have an effect. Is it because the grip is pushing and creating tension? Perhaps sliding the grip out a few milimeters?

I have relieved tension on the middle throttle spring. As far as the "grip" goes, I took it off to complete this install. I didnt figure the vista went over the grip.... and I was worried about the grip binding against the vista. I had planned on getting it to work before reinstalling the grip

thanks

K

 

[HaulinAshe]

It's definitely time for me to hurry up and pitch in my $.02 here. I have the Vista Cruise installed on the G2 tube and experienced exactly the same problem. I was raised in a machine shop so if there's one thing I DO understand it's clearances and tolerances.

I had to use a Dremel sanding drum and ever-so-slightly enlarge the opening of the Vista Cruise. Before doing so, adjust the VC all the way open and carefully remove just enough material from the inside diameter (i.d.) to allow the VC to be pushed over the G2 tube. Once the VC is past the knurled portion of the tube, the tube diameter lessens and the necessary clearance will be there.

Ongoing adjustment of the VC is still an issue. On my 05 I ran the NPT throttle lock which is cheaper by design and less expensive than the VC (a few bucks). I never had ajustment issues with the NPT but can't say for certain if that's because I never used it with an aluminum tube. In any case, the VC lock does not open very much when disengaged, or not when compared to the NPT. This makes ajustment of the opening critical and required whenever there is a large change in ambient temperature.

Don't make the same mistake I did and throw that one funky aluminum bracket away. You know, the one with the single hole drilled in it. IT'S NOT A BRACKET. IT'S THE HANDY-DANDY ADJUSTMENT TOOL! You will need it.

If the VC throttle lock had a bit more action/travel to the cam mechanism then IMO all this fuss would not be necessary. But alas, my background is in machine work, not plastic molding.

 

[E1Allen]

I must have missed the problems on this one. I have th VC with the G2 w/o any issues other than maybe tightening it up once in a while(thats what the key is for Jeff...). With the VC in the unlocked position when the bike is not running, it does slide back to closed throttle a little slower than w/o the VC on. BUT, never an issue because 1. its an insignificant difference 2. my hand is on the throttle when closing it anyways. Maybe I did something different, but I just followed what others did on the site.

 

[HaulinAshe]

E1Allen - No, mine works too. But having to EVER readjust the mechanism was NEVER necessary on my 05 with the NPT lock. The NPT lock (cam) opened more than the VC does. So more clearance was available in the unlocked position.

I'm just not 100% happy with the concept of carrying that key. IMO it should not be necessary. One more tool to keep up with and all that! seems like with only a few thousands more on the cam they could have designed the unit to deflect more from unlock to lock.

Might be time for some JB Weld experimentation. I have also considered layering something like glass cloth over the end of the cam to produce a bit more deflection. It will all depend on how annoyed I get at having thrown that damn key away!

 

[James Burleigh]

I just installed mine a couple weeks ago. Here's my posting on the experience and results.

It works great! I just haven't had a chance to really use it since I haven't been on any trips, but just commuting. My only beef is that it kinda sticks out like a sore thumb, and occasionally I manage to engage it when I don't intend to. Just today I was wondering about a strap-down of some sort that will prevent accidentally engaging it--not that it's dangerous to engage it; you just loose the spring-back action.

Jb

 

[fossilrider]

I don't have a G2 but from my reading on the forum, the original sleeve size is larger, see here:

https://www.fjrforum.com/forum//index.php?s...mp;hl=g2+sleeve

In this thread, it states there is a new sleeve that is same size as the oem throttle tube.

https://www.fjrforum.com/forum//index.php?s...st&p=225823

 

[AGirl]

Oh geez, this is not the thread I wanted to see the night before I'm installing both the G2 and VC. :stop: (Ok, let me rephrase that... before my super-duper mechanic and friend installs them while I hold his Diet Coke and say "yeah, sure, I follow you completely".) I'm not really seeing a pattern w/the posts that point to the specific problem (like using the G2 and VC together *is* the problem), but, then again, my mechanic skills rival that of a banana (at least compared to my friends and many of the quadruple digit posters 'round here). Is there a definitive suggestion regarding the installation of these gizmos that will assist in achieving a happy throttle? Thanks in advance for any help. :thumbsup:

AGirl

p.s. Yes, I'm carrying along the How-To posts on both the VC and G2 tomorrow.

 

[HaulinAshe]

Is there a definitive suggestion regarding the installation of these gizmos that will assist in achieving a happy throttle?

Yep, pre-test the VC fit over the G2 tube before you mount a grip or anything. Remember that the V2 can be split open and assembled around the inner part of the tube, without having to pass it over the knurled portion.

Adjust the VC as far open as it will go and then check the fit. Flip it closed/locked and check. Try to sand no more from the i.d. of the VC than you absolutely have to in order to get a good range of fit from adjusted fully open and unlocked, to locked/closed and snug.

Just remember that as temps change you may have to adjust the VC. So make sure you leave yourself some adjustment room in both directions.