What is the Gen I vs. Gen II debate about ?
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beemerdons
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Here you go phroenips and Wheatie, since you two asked so damn sweetly and so very fecking nicely:Yeah, thanks for reposting it...once was far too many.
ionbeam
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Bustanut joker
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The the extra name tag implies that I would fit in that rat bastages shirt... Oh hell no! it's got burro sweat on it.
yamafitter
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BeemerDons, RadioHowie & Bustanut Joker all ride Gen I's. I can think of no better reason for riding a Gen II.
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beemerdons
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Point very well taken, Bill; I never looked at it that way before, really!BeemerDons, RadioHowie & Bustanut Joker all ride Gen I's. I can think of no better reason for riding a Gen II.
Bustanut joker
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Aye but it's true Bill..BeemerDons, RadioHowie & Bustanut Joker all ride Gen I's. I can think of no better reason for riding a Gen II.
However, we don't have to spend a butt load of cash purchasing training wheel adapters for our bikes! Nope, stock right from mama
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mferriter
Occasionally trying to get work done
It's just a big pissing contest.
carlson_mn
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Well, I guess I'll throw out a somewhat subjective review...
I've had both, I like somethings about each better than the other, and those things balance out. Overall I like the 08 a little better than my 04 mostly because it is a bit more comfortable for my long legs than the Gen1. Handling on both is great, I ride with mostly sport bikes, they're always surprised by the FJR. I like the longer gears a little better on the Gen2, seems better suited to the large amount of top end power the engine makes. The 04 was more snappy, easily power wheelied in 1st gear with exhaust system, but the 08 seems to make speed perhaps a little better because of its longer gears.
The 04 was slightly quicker steering and easier to flip back and forth. 08 might be a bit more stable at higher speed sweepers. They're very similar though.
Heat was minimal on the 04 here in MN, and never a problem. Gen2 has zero heat.
Airflow is improved on Gen2, a little less back pressure when shield is up, and a bit smoother everywhere else.
Brakes are stronger on the 08. The small application of the front brake when using the rear is actually pretty nice. Pads are more expensive but seem to last forever on these bikes, 26k miles on the 08 and half or more of the pads are left all around...
Fuel Injection was spot on with both bikes, though I do get 2-3mpg better on the highway with the 08. I like the mpg and temp display on the 08, but you give up the ability to view a tripometer and odometer at the same time, who cares though?
Stock seat is more comfortable on the 08 no doubt. Spencer mod on the 04 made it about as good as the 08. Stock 04 is too soft, spongy.
Best thing about the 08 is that it's pretty much the same bike as the 04. Oh, and no ticking either...
Some bike porn:
And compare FJR^ to a Concours. I don't even think the most die-hard concours owner can say their bike rates anywhere near an FJR in looks..
04 is probably better looking and best looking FJR ever made, but the black gives it a good run for its money! I like my tinted Cal Sci screen.
I've had both, I like somethings about each better than the other, and those things balance out. Overall I like the 08 a little better than my 04 mostly because it is a bit more comfortable for my long legs than the Gen1. Handling on both is great, I ride with mostly sport bikes, they're always surprised by the FJR. I like the longer gears a little better on the Gen2, seems better suited to the large amount of top end power the engine makes. The 04 was more snappy, easily power wheelied in 1st gear with exhaust system, but the 08 seems to make speed perhaps a little better because of its longer gears.
The 04 was slightly quicker steering and easier to flip back and forth. 08 might be a bit more stable at higher speed sweepers. They're very similar though.
Heat was minimal on the 04 here in MN, and never a problem. Gen2 has zero heat.
Airflow is improved on Gen2, a little less back pressure when shield is up, and a bit smoother everywhere else.
Brakes are stronger on the 08. The small application of the front brake when using the rear is actually pretty nice. Pads are more expensive but seem to last forever on these bikes, 26k miles on the 08 and half or more of the pads are left all around...
Fuel Injection was spot on with both bikes, though I do get 2-3mpg better on the highway with the 08. I like the mpg and temp display on the 08, but you give up the ability to view a tripometer and odometer at the same time, who cares though?
Stock seat is more comfortable on the 08 no doubt. Spencer mod on the 04 made it about as good as the 08. Stock 04 is too soft, spongy.
Best thing about the 08 is that it's pretty much the same bike as the 04. Oh, and no ticking either...
Some bike porn:
And compare FJR^ to a Concours. I don't even think the most die-hard concours owner can say their bike rates anywhere near an FJR in looks..
04 is probably better looking and best looking FJR ever made, but the black gives it a good run for its money! I like my tinted Cal Sci screen.
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FJRay
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Gen I riders,We were smarter first!!!!!!
Bustanut joker
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Matt also likes; Quiet nights listening to Manilow,Long haired Chihuahuas, Paisley print underwear, and fishstick dinners with mustard.. Ladys, meet Bachelor number one..
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Don't be too afraid... they're all a bunch of good-natured doofuses... you just asked one of the Holy War questions... start a new thread about what kind of oil to use... or whether to become a dark sider... and be sure to ask the most important question... what kind of blinker fluid should I use??
Oh, and welcome to the madhouse... :lol:
Bustanut joker
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I agree .There are several lunatics here to be avoided.Don't be too afraid... they're all a bunch of good-natured doofuses... you just asked one of the Holy War questions... start a new thread about what kind of oil to use... or whether to become a dark sider... and be sure to ask the most important question... what kind of blinker fluid should I use??
Oh, and welcome to the madhouse... :lol:
But.. Far be it for me to share.. :lol:
beemerdons
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carlson_mn
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Long haired Chihuahuas?? :lol:
^^^ I'm sorry to say... this dude fits right in. :dribble:
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pcarrick
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Entertainment AND objectivity all in this one place. Great info and appreciate the true salient points of the two generations. Cheers! A fun group.
wheatonFJR
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pcarrick
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Howdy! Well, here it is August and I just re-read my old post re: Gen v. Gen II. So I am now ready to make the switch to an FJR and am seeing a 2005 for near $6,000 w/ 30k on the odo. Says he's second owner and had it for most of the miles. Is this in the ballpark for price, assuming it has been loved? My dear old bike is pushing me to upgrade. I am ready to expand my envelope. After reading the previous posts it seems to boil down to heat issues on the Gen I bikes, but being a newcomer I would not know the difference,right?
phroenips
Pronounced "Free-nips"...it's just a
Not a *great* price, but seems pretty fair. General rule of thumb right now is close to $1000 per model year ($5k for an 05, $6k for an 06, etc)
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