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  1. El Toro

    Maine, before today's snow

    My grandfather went to Maine when he was in his 80s. He was born and raised in Norway, but came to the US after college and stayed. He wept when he saw the forests and craggy rocky coastline because it reminded him of Norway. Maybe Norway, Maine and the Louisiana Swamps have more in common...
  2. El Toro

    Neighbor went to Romania, hasn't come back!

    Well, that will teach you to ask for advice here. Save yourself and your casual acquaintance a lot of aggravation. Dont go looking for him. He is an adult and not one with whom you are close. Dont open his mail. Just keep it for him as he asked. When he gets home, maybe he will tell you all...
  3. El Toro

    dct. vs AE Is it worth the new technolgy.

    Sometimes, because of arthritis issues I NEED the paddle shifters. Most of the time I do not, so this has allowed me to have many bikes with regular shifting. This was my 50th season of street riding and Ive owned 30 bikes. The AE shifter is good fun. You can run up as fast or faster with...
  4. El Toro

    shoei neotec wine red XXL -

    For me the Neotec sizing went the other direction. I had worn XL in other models, but the L fit me in the Neotec. Ive had Schuberth, HJC, Nolan, and other Shoei modular helmets and the Neotec has been most comfortable for my head. GLWS
  5. El Toro

    Neighbor went to Romania, hasn't come back!

    Let it go. He may just be enjoying an extended break in a beautiful, inexpensive setting. Do you really want to set assorted governments in motion? Think about it. If it were your son, it would make sense to check for your own peace. Just keep his mail for him, like he asked. And if he ever...
  6. El Toro

    dct. vs AE Is it worth the new technolgy.

    I loved the AE. But 2009 was their last year in the US. Ive never been interested in DCT because of the bikes they have put it on. But the new Goldwing is interesting to me, and I am definitely going for a test ride. All the reports about DCT have been very positive ... from Honda, from the...
  7. El Toro

    Dealer Profit on New Bikes

    I agree. Most dealers do not have deep enough pockets to avoid floor plan. I am risk averse and would never sleep if I was in for what many dealers suffer through. Its a tough business, and the high volume discounters make it harder still. I bought that leftover 2016 F6B Deluxe from a local...
  8. El Toro

    Dealer Profit on New Bikes

    I would not touch floor plan under any circumstance. Its a great model if the stuff moves in 90 days. Its a way to go bankrupt if the market stalls and youre holding bikes from one season to the next. The dealers that do the best are ones that hold their own destiny in their own hands.
  9. El Toro

    Gold Wing update....any news?

    Honda says they researched Goldwing owners and found that the vast majority were touring for long weekends rather than for weeks. So they designed the new luggage with this in mind, cutting capacity drastically. They reassured potential buyers that the new top box would still hold helmets. I...
  10. El Toro

    Gold Wing update....any news?

    I owned an ST1100, and rented an ST1300 for a few days when they came out. I test rode one a few weeks ago. And I ride with a die hard owner. That shift lever pivot design is the worst Ive ever experienced on any motorcycle. It starts the arthritis in my left big toe up within 10 shifts. And...
  11. El Toro

    Gold Wing update....any news?

    And my ZX14R leans me forward even more, making seat issues go away. In Europe the ZX14R is considered a touring bike. Honda bailed on the ST market. You can still buy a new 2012 leftover ST1300 at at least two dealers. Honda seems to have tried to foist that CTX1300 on folks, but Ive never...
  12. El Toro

    Dealer Profit on New Bikes

    I've been pricing 2018 Goldwings with the high volume "pirates and discounters" that my old boss used to rant against. You know ... the guys like D&H who every dealer hates, but who forums contend are the place to spend your money. In any event, I was talking to a salesman at the dealer that...
  13. El Toro

    Gold Wing update....any news?

    I wondered how this heat issue had been dealt with. It is discussed in the 2016 owners manual. They say that if you ride at 10 to 15 mph in extreme heat, the needle may rise toward the red. They suggest shifting to a different gear. They say that if you get to the red, stop as soon as you can...
  14. El Toro

    Gold Wing update....any news?

    And this is the Other Bikes sub forum. 😇
  15. El Toro

    if you buy fjr from Yamaha dealer?

    Many dealers dont fool with YES and instead offer their own extended warranties which are not governed by the YES rules. Normal pricing for YES is $700ish. D&H undersells everyone else by offering YES for not too much over the wholesale cost. $700ish is pretty close to typical non-YES extended...
  16. El Toro

    Gold Wing update....any news?

    The new base model is an ST type bike, like the K1600GT, for guys that arent bothered by the extra weight. The new Tour model is more in the class of the K1600GTL, ie a true luxury touring bike. Honda is doing like Yamaha ... the bikes for other countries may include features that are not...
  17. El Toro

    Quiet Forum These Days?

    The issue is that people come for the bike but stay for the socialization. No bike question? No problem. Just banter about other things. This is not a criticism. Its just an observation. A unique thing about this forum is that the expenses are absorbed by a few dedicated persons for the love...
  18. El Toro

    Gold Wing update....any news?

    Yeah, it was the frame recall that was bugging me. I did not know that Honda stiffed the early failure victims until they were forced to make good. That sucks.
  19. El Toro

    Gold Wing update....any news?

    I sure hope not. That would be a deal breaker for me. I have never been a fan. The Goldwing came out two years after I'd left the Honda dealership where I'd worked through undergraduate studies. I had friends who I'd left behind, and I headed for Georgia Tech. The friends would give me...
  20. El Toro

    Gold Wing update....any news?

    That's for sure. Honda has always been good about support and there are dealers everywhere. One thing is that this will require serious training for their technicians. They've never done anything like this before. If you've ever worked on one, you know that Goldwings are quite complex...
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