10 n' 10 Rally

[beerme]

We'll be see the rubber band pulling everybody there with JJ and DJ needing to get a move on!

JJ might be *ahem* r e l a x i n g.... IF ya know what i mean (inside joke).

 

[Ignacio]

Whoa....watching an interesting development unfold. For the batch of folks that went east after the checkpoint earlier today...they appear to be going 2 or 3 different directions at Lincoln/Omaha. I'm guessing the batch that went east are headed straight out on I-80 towards the D.C. area. The batch that went south probably are going to head south a while until they turn east. And a few appear to be headed toward Oklahoma and guessing aren't going to go east.

The batch headed west are probably going to be doing what the first folks did before the checkpoint.

The reason I'm speculating?

There's a big ol' hurricane that is threatening to sideswipe the whole eastern seaboard about the time they're out there. Hurricane Earl suddenly may be a significant player in the 10 'n 10.

 

[tel]

Seems like RJ is doing some heavy sleeping today at a Day Inn, should be well rested, that's good.

Spoke to a buddy in the rally this morning (cdm), '08 FJR, he's just going for the 10/10, not bothering with bonuses, not my cup-of-tea, I must say. He said he hit mucho rain in the first leg. yuk!

Having so much fun watching I went and threw an entry in for '11 IBR. (I must be mad, I remember telling myself, never to do that again. )

tel

 

[Good2Go]

The batch headed west are probably going to be doing what the first folks did before the checkpoint.

When the rally started I thought, "those 2 or 3 dots headed east must be missing a page from their bonus list, 'cause everyone else went (mostly) west. Sucka's." ;-)

But the more I think about it, those few that headed east for the first half will end up significantly closer to the finish in the second half of the rally, in possibly relatively calmer weather. I'd imagine that's where I'd want to be after riding a motorcycle for 10 days. Can't wait to read some ride reports, to find out what the thinking process was when they devised their routes.

 

[MCML]

Not a rally rider myself (maybe some day soon) but it occurs to me that those closer to the finish as a rally winds down can do their risk/reward assessments relating to bonuses with a somewhat higher degree of certainty...and, in this case, that's even without hurricanes popping up.

 

[tel]

Jeez - just spotted RB at a McDonalds in Lincoln, NE. That's just evil! :assassin:

I love watching where they stop then using Google earth to see exactly what they are seeing.

Ya can't hide no more.

tel

 

[Ignacio]

Jeez - just spotted RB at a McDonalds in Lincoln, NE. That's just evil! :assassin:

Nice one! You nailed it!

....on the serious side...they're all entering that weird time that is Day 6+. This is the first one I've watched in a while and haven't been part of....and I'm going through all sorts of sympathy pain....staring. My gaze is 20 miles down the Interstate and I'm sitting at my computer.

 

[101stpathfinder]

I'm wondering how the obvious popularity of this event is going to effect future rallymasters'

policies. Keeping the bonus listings private had to have cut down on the "Outside" help. Butt...

one can still watch and learn quite a bit, and for that I think this rally is great! I like the chance

to study and plan the route for an extended time off the clock. I think it puts more emphasis on

execution of a riders well thought out route plan. There are always moment by moment situations

ie traffic, weather,animals... butt if a rider can know his or her ability, this seems like a rider's

rally. Which brings me to a question; How does a rider plan his route? Do most riders know

about how many miles to plan each day per thier ability? Their own personal "Fatigue" and

the amount of time needed for bagging different bonus sites, is this learned through experience

of rally(s)? Just wondering.....

 

[redtail]

I'm wondering how the obvious popularity of this event is going to effect future rallymasters'policies. Keeping the bonus listings private had to have cut down on the "Outside" help. Butt...

one can still watch and learn quite a bit, and for that I think this rally is great! I like the chance

to study and plan the route for an extended time off the clock. I think it puts more emphasis on

execution of a riders well thought out route plan. There are always moment by moment situations

ie traffic, weather,animals... butt if a rider can know his or her ability, this seems like a rider's

rally. Which brings me to a question; How does a rider plan his route? Do most riders know

about how many miles to plan each day per thier ability? Their own personal "Fatigue" and

the amount of time needed for bagging different bonus sites, is this learned through experience

of rally(s)? Just wondering.....

You keep spelling "but", with two "T's". Is this some kind of sub-conscious sympathy for the riders! :blink:

I for one, am in awe! What an adventure!

Wish I had the answers instead of a smart ass remark. Learning as fast as I can and truly grateful for the ride!

 

[101stpathfinder]

I'm wondering how the obvious popularity of this event is going to effect future rallymasters'policies. Keeping the bonus listings private had to have cut down on the "Outside" help. Butt...

one can still watch and learn quite a bit, and for that I think this rally is great! I like the chance

to study and plan the route for an extended time off the clock. I think it puts more emphasis on

execution of a riders well thought out route plan. There are always moment by moment situations

ie traffic, weather,animals... butt if a rider can know his or her ability, this seems like a rider's

rally. Which brings me to a question; How does a rider plan his route? Do most riders know

about how many miles to plan each day per thier ability? Their own personal "Fatigue" and

the amount of time needed for bagging different bonus sites, is this learned through experience

of rally(s)? Just wondering.....

You keep spelling "but", with two "T's". Is this some kind of sub-conscious sympathy for the riders! :blink:

I for one, am in awe! What an adventure!

Wish I had the answers instead of a smart ass remark. Learning as fast as I can and truly grateful for the ride!

I see your iba# , is there any other way to spell it in this section Butt with 2 t's? :lol:

And you are sooo lucky, your location puts you out west where most the action is.

You gonna rally soon?

 

[Ignacio]

How does a rider plan his route? Do most riders knowabout how many miles to plan each day per thier ability? Their own personal "Fatigue" and

the amount of time needed for bagging different bonus sites, is this learned through experience

of rally(s)? Just wondering.....

I'd say that's pretty fair for riders with a couple years or more experience do have a range of miles they can do fairl well settled in their mind. On a 5-11 day rally I tend to see what's possible with 1000 miles a day at a lower end and up to 1150 on the upper end. Lot's of offroad bonuses...closer to 1K. Lots of interstate and good weather....closer to 1100 or 1150.

Then it's going to be regional adjustments knowing west is faster than east. Rural is faster than urban. Or it's possible if you're rested and in the zone to do 1500 one day, but then you might pay a price and only do 800 the next day.

Then look for escape routes. Push for one at sunset that's at an 1150 pace, but if I can't get to it...have other options in the afternoon of one that's worth 2/3 the points of the gnarly one. Then maybe that one gets me to a sunrise bonus easily plus four hours of needed sleep. Pacing yourself is important.

Plus you have an overall master plan and then day-to-day detailed plans.

You get this yourself actually with you 10 in 10. Now that you've done it...you'd be amazed if you applied another layer to the process via a bonus packet...you'd do pretty well.

 

[101stpathfinder]

I think the fact that you top riders do this in a matter of HOURS and not DAYS is what

blows me away. I can't even "Get along" with my garmin, muchless program a route

into the &$%*( thing!

From reading some of the blogs on this rally, it sounds as though "Finisher" status can

be obtained with only miles ridden and not points?

I even read of riders bypassing bonus locations in favor of putting down more miles.

This seems like a really unique rally? I remember reading "AGAINST THE WIND" and

in Ron's 1995 rally there was an option to forego bonus' for a 48 state ride. (?)

 

[tel]

Yikes! - Go check the weather in Iowa, me thinks some riders are getting creamed.

tel

 

[Ignacio]

From reading some of the blogs on this rally, it sounds as though "Finisher" status canbe obtained with only miles ridden and not points?

Minimum to be a finisher is 8,000 miles I've seen from somebody. I'm guessing that for those that haven't done a 10/10th....that may be a bail-out or optional thing. But, those trying to win it I bet it's a secondary thing.

The unique part of it I think is they've had so much time to plan the route...and measure things....and visualize a definitive route. Now that it's in it's 6th day plans are probably being altered and pared down a bit by some of the riders. I can't hazard a guess who's ahead in points....just which ones tearing up the miles. I think R~B, MK, and CW are the closest to Energizer Bunnies right now.

Yikes! - Go check the weather in Iowa, me thinks some riders are getting creamed.

Double Yikes! Those that are headed south may be the better shorter term choice.

RED, OG, and RS may be in the catbird's seat if they stay in front of it.

 

[airboss]

From reading some of the blogs on this rally, it sounds as though "Finisher" status canbe obtained with only miles ridden and not points?

Minimum to be a finisher is 8,000 miles I've seen from somebody. I'm guessing that for those that haven't done a 10/10th....that may be a bail-out or optional thing. But, those trying to win it I bet it's a secondary thing.

The unique part of it I think is they've had so much time to plan the route...and measure things....and visualize a definitive route. Now that it's in it's 6th day plans are probably being altered and pared down a bit by some of the riders. I can't hazard a guess who's ahead in points....just which ones tearing up the miles. I think R~B, MK, and CW are the closest to Energizer Bunnies right now.

Yikes! - Go check the weather in Iowa, me thinks some riders are getting creamed.

Double Yikes! Those that are headed south may be the better shorter term choice.

RED, OG, and RS may be in the catbird's seat if they stay in front of it.

Midwest weather don't ya love it.

Looks like a steady rain all day with a few Thunder Storms thrown it.

Sucky Midwest Weather Map

 

[Jeff Earls]

I note that RJ turned back west. That storm front from OKC up to Detroit looked nasty with the worst of it in central and SW MO, which is right where he was.

It really sucks when the rain is moving the same direction and expanding such that you stay in it for a long period.

BTDT ... enough times to question my sanity.

Two riders are running on tires that I mounted for them. One, I think, is "cdm" who is out for his 10/10ths and not hitting too many bonuses. The other is "frogpirate" aka the "MK" that is still running. Based on his SPOT, ol' Kermit is on track to hit NY and DC in good time tomorrow. When I levered on his tires, he waxed poetic about trying to get the Outer Banks bonuses as well. At this point, I think the evacuation notice for the area and Hurricane Earl may turn him around late tomorrow.

I note that Wendy looks to be making tracks that direction and might sneak those OBX bonuses in before the storm winds arrive. If she does that and then turns north to DC/NY, she may well be the one to beat in this event.

 

[Ignacio]

When I levered on his tires, he waxed poetic about trying to get the Outer Banks bonuses as well. At this point, I think the evacuation notice for the area and Hurricane Earl may turn him around late tomorrow.
I note that Wendy looks to be making tracks that direction and might sneak those OBX bonuses in before the storm winds arrive. If she does that and then turns north to DC/NY, she may well be the one to beat in this event.

I think you're watching the same two that I'm watching. That and possibly "IC" after the midpoint results. Amazing how a midwest storm followed by a hurricane can become such interesting players in this thing.

I tell 'ya...it's weird watching it from the comfort of a chair. I can imagine being both what happened to A~J...and to the lucky SOB's that cleared that first storm.

 

[Jeff Earls]

When I levered on his tires, he waxed poetic about trying to get the Outer Banks bonuses as well. At this point, I think the evacuation notice for the area and Hurricane Earl may turn him around late tomorrow.
I note that Wendy looks to be making tracks that direction and might sneak those OBX bonuses in before the storm winds arrive. If she does that and then turns north to DC/NY, she may well be the one to beat in this event.

I think you're watching the same two that I'm watching. That and possibly "IC" after the midpoint results. Amazing how a midwest storm followed by a hurricane can become such interesting players in this thing.

I tell 'ya...it's weird watching it from the comfort of a chair. I can imagine being both what happened to A~J...and to the lucky SOB's that cleared that first storm.

Weird? Sorta. I am finding I'm ok with getting good sleep and thinking "HA! Those idiots are still out there riding." ;-)

Where did you see the midpoint results?

The guy that "cleared" the storm? OG? No, he didn't clear it. He bulled through it. Good on 'im!

 

[101stpathfinder]

When I levered on his tires, he waxed poetic about trying to get the Outer Banks bonuses as well. At this point, I think the evacuation notice for the area and Hurricane Earl may turn him around late tomorrow.
I note that Wendy looks to be making tracks that direction and might sneak those OBX bonuses in before the storm winds arrive. If she does that and then turns north to DC/NY, she may well be the one to beat in this event.

I think you're watching the same two that I'm watching. That and possibly "IC" after the midpoint results. Amazing how a midwest storm followed by a hurricane can become such interesting players in this thing.

I tell 'ya...it's weird watching it from the comfort of a chair. I can imagine being both what happened to A~J...and to the lucky SOB's that cleared that first storm.

Weird? Sorta. I am finding I'm ok with getting good sleep and thinking "HA! Those idiots are still out there riding." ;-)

Where did you see the midpoint results?

The guy that "cleared" the storm? OG? No, he didn't clear it. He bulled through it. Good on 'im!

I hope this is OK to post ... from S.C. on the list:

Here are the audited scores for the riders. . .just a change for JJ from second to third. . .he inadvertently entered points for multi-location/multi-day bonus' that will be entered at the finish of the rally. So the only change in positions was that 2nd and 3rd places flip flopped.

1 328727 R~B

2 318209 IC

3 310004 JJ

4 308506 CW

5 299230 OG

6 294343 MK

7 293744 VE

8 273770 J2

9 268733 A~J

10 254378 DB

11 252039 SM

12 244339 PJ

13 234486 GM

14 227806 RED

15 198915 PP

16 185136 RS

17 171845 WC

18 169026 PD

19 143982 DG

20 122055 TD

21 112264 RA

22 103016 FM1

23 30058 CM

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[dcarver]

I wish I knew more about 'rallying' so I could fully appreciate the logic and understand the decision making process. Somebody PM me with some tips? I find it fascinating, but fully realize I'm not really getting the big picture. And no, I have no desire to run anything but a Candy Butt Association rally..