2014 BMW Pricing

[Fred W]

Well, to be fair... that GS price is for the GS Adventure. The "base" R1200GS w/ ABS msrp is only $16,100., which doesn't sound quite so bad when contrasted to an FJR1300ES at 16,890, or the FJR A model at 15,890. However, perusing Max BMW's web site I don't see any 2014 GS'es being offered for less than $19,500.

Hill Start Control for moving off effortlessly on slopes, Keyless Ride automatically releases the steering lock, ignition, fuel tank lid and alarm system as soon as the key is within two metres of the motorcycle. The radio foil aerial is integrated invisibly in the body and the intelligent daytime riding light with LED technology enhances visibility and safety.... and on and on.....

Hill start control? I though that was whet your right foot was for.

Keyless Ride? People would actually pay for that? I have no problem with keys.

Radio antenna? Intelligent daytime running lights?

Sheesh... sounds like a pile of **** I would never want.

 

[russperry]

What jumps out at me having owned BMW's continuously for 45 years and rapidly approaching 600,000 miles on these machines is the S 1000 R for $13,150! We have two of these in my AZ Beemers Club and basically they are just race bikes with license plates, those *******s are way too fast for this Old Man!

Agree with you Don - that's a ton of HP and nearly super bike class out of the box. Thinking of what I might need to sell to get one of those into my garage and onto the track!

 

[gixxerjasen]

What jumps out at me having owned BMW's continuously for 45 years and rapidly approaching 600,000 miles on these machines is the S 1000 R for $13,150! We have two of these in my AZ Beemers Club and basically they are just race bikes with license plates, those *******s are way too fast for this Old Man!

Note: Below prices are BASE model MSRP

Suzuki GSX-R1000 - $13,899

Yamaha R1 - $14,290

Kawasaki ZX10R - $14,299

Honda CBR1000RR - $13,999

BMW S1000R - $13,150

When the hell did BMW become the lowest price option??? Geez, I'd love one of those, though I'd be more like to pick up one slightly used myself. You know, the bike that someone bought and then did one track day, scared themself and parked it.

 

[bhendron]

That is a lot of money...for me. For others? Well, there are plenty of people with incomes that could easily spend that. It's all relative.
I'm just happy that I can be thrilled to death with a $15,000 bike.

Hell, I'm as happy as a puppy with two peckers with my $5k ride...

 

[Top_Speed1]

Well, to be fair... that GS price is for the GS Adventure. The "base" R1200GS w/ ABS msrp is only $16,100., which doesn't sound quite so bad when contrasted to an FJR1300ES at 16,890, or the FJR A model at 15,890. However, perusing Max BMW's web site I don't see any 2014 GS'es being offered for less than $19,500.

Hill Start Control for moving off effortlessly on slopes, Keyless Ride automatically releases the steering lock, ignition, fuel tank lid and alarm system as soon as the key is within two metres of the motorcycle. The radio foil aerial is integrated invisibly in the body and the intelligent daytime riding light with LED technology enhances visibility and safety.... and on and on.....

Hill start control? I though that was whet your right foot was for.

Keyless Ride? People would actually pay for that? I have no problem with keys.

Radio antenna? Intelligent daytime running lights?

Sheesh... sounds like a pile of **** I would never want.

I clearly remember the same being said here about ES when BMW had it and Yamaha was only in the dream stages of it, now it's all the rave (funny again!). BMW is innovator's, you old dudes take some time to come on board with the technological advancements.. but you all do sooner or later.

 

[Denver_FJR]

Note: Below prices are BASE model MSRPSuzuki GSX-R1000 - $13,899

Yamaha R1 - $14,290

Kawasaki ZX10R - $14,299

Honda CBR1000RR - $13,999

BMW S1000R - $13,150

When the hell did BMW become the lowest price option??? Geez, I'd love one of those, though I'd be more like to pick up one slightly used myself. You know, the bike that someone bought and then did one track day, scared themself and parked it.

There is a new semi-naked "R" version. Did you mean to compare the "S1000RR"? Still, the "RR" version goes for $15k and I actually think it's well priced considering what you get and other bikes in that segment.

 

[Fred W]

What jumps out at me having owned BMW's continuously for 45 years and rapidly approaching 600,000 miles on these machines is the S 1000 R for $13,150! We have two of these in my AZ Beemers Club and basically they are just race bikes with license plates, those *******s are way too fast for this Old Man!

Note: Below prices are BASE model MSRP

Suzuki GSX-R1000 - $13,899

Yamaha R1 - $14,290

Kawasaki ZX10R - $14,299

Honda CBR1000RR - $13,999

BMW S1000R - $13,150

When the hell did BMW become the lowest price option??? Geez, I'd love one of those, though I'd be more like to pick up one slightly used myself. You know, the bike that someone bought and then did one track day, scared themself and parked it.

The difference here is that for those Asian bikes, that is the price for a complete bike, and you can probably get it for a bit less.

With BMW's a la' cart pricing and hold the price line dealership network, you're looking at ~ $15,500 for the "R". Check out the prices at Max BMW. They get pretty much what they show on the web for the bikes because there are enough meatheads around that will pay it.

edit: yeah, good luck getting an RR for $15k.

 

[gixxerjasen]

There is a new semi-naked "R" version. Did you mean to compare the "S1000RR"? Still, the "RR" version goes for $15k and I actually think it's well priced considering what you get and other bikes in that segment.

Damnit, yea, you are right. Didn't realize they'd come out with that model.

 

[Redfish Hunter]

Hill start control? I though that was whet your right foot was for.

Keyless Ride? People would actually pay for that? I have no problem with keys.

Radio antenna? Intelligent daytime running lights?

Sheesh... sounds like a pile of **** I would never want.

Careful Fred. Someone might accuse you of being a Motorcycle Bigot... At least with the BMW you seem to know which letters designate which motorcycle.

I have no issue with someone wanting to pay that much for a BMW. I don't even have an issue with a BMW guy being a little arrogant and proud of his investment. I am not willing to pay that much but I am glad that BMW is advancing technology and raising the bar. Competition is good for the breed.

 

[beemerdons]

Regardless of what my highly esteemed and greatly respected Friend Fred W says, you absolutely can buy a ride out the door BMW S1000R for $13,150.

Naturally you have to add Tax, Title, License and Setup Fee; which you also have to do on Yamaha or on any other make of motorcycles sold in the US.

Contact Scott Evers at GoAZ Motorcycles at 480-609-1800 or [email protected] Dealership is in Scottsdale. This Irishman's checkbook is on FIRE!

 

[Top_Speed1]

Regardless of what my highly esteemed and greatly respected Friend Fred W says, you absolutely can buy a ride out the door BMW S1000R for $13,150.
Naturally you have to add Tax, Title, License and Setup Fee; which you also have to do on Yamaha or on any other make of motorcycles sold in the US.

Contact Scott Evers at GoAZ Motorcycles at 480-609-1800 or [email protected] Dealership is in Scottsdale. This Irishman's checkbook is on FIRE!

Oh boy, he's got another wallet itch.

Your garage must be getting an addition built on

 

[Fred W]

Maybe beemers are cheaper in AZ?

 

[Top_Speed1]

Maybe beemers are cheaper in AZ?

Well there's a kick in the old groin. I would of went to Zona and shopped, and I could of had Don show'n me all dem ho' houses ta boot!

 

[beemerdons]

If any U. S. BMW Dealer tells you that he can't sell you a "bare bones - base model" S1000R on an Invoiced Order to the BMW Factory in Germany for $13,150.00: ********! I can give you a name and number at BMW North America that will straighten him out muy pronto ese, they just have to do it.

However, here are the details and the Devil is in the Details. As Freddie Bear said previously, BMW Dealers try their best to sell the "fluffed up" models.

If I wanted a Dynamic Package S1000R in February for $14,950 or a Standard Package S1000R in March for $13,995, I could seal this deal with Scott - Listo! However this poor old retired impoverished Paddy wants the "stripper" S1000R. I'm having to eat dog food and collect aluminum cans as it is, eh!

If I place my Factory Invoiced Order prior to Saturday, March 1, Scott guarantees I will take delivery of my "Thrifty Fenian Special" by Monday, June 30.

Any order placed after 3/1/14 is a "crapshoot" per Scott because there may not enough time on the 2014 production schedule; you then wait for 2015 run.

 

[ice_station_zebra]

These are US MSRP base prices...you've got freight, PDI options, plating and taxes on top of that

Me thinks those are base prices and the majority of bikes will include additional packages ($$$).

 

[RaYzerman19]

I just can't get over the total cost of ownership of a Beemer.... I talk to Beemer owners all the time to see what it takes to do regular maintenance, whether they do it themselves or take it in to the dealer, etc. Those that do their own say they get frustrated with all the disassembly it takes to do a simple oil change, the special tools, and the cost of parts. Surprisingly, a lot just give up and take it to the dealer....... so I ask, what does an oil change cost? I've been told anywhere from $200 to $900. One wrencher told me he has better things to do now, so just takes it in.. first year of K1300GT ownership cost him $2100 which included a new rear tire. Of course, they're all feeling better because the factory trained tech (I do believe they're good) goes over everything and makes them feel better, translate more time, more money.

I volunteered to help my buddy with a K1200LT we'd bleed his clutch and brakes, change the plugs, change his fork seals...... quite the education, and I learned a lot. We had to strip every piece of plastic off and remove the gas tank (gas tank has to be removed to bleed the clutch). We had to use a work-around procedure to bleed the brakes, developed by some Beemer guy, since we didn't have access to the black box that cycles the ABS pump. We got 'er done, but lots of hours.... so I see where most give up with their own maintenance. I don't begrudge anybody that owns one, just be aware the total cost of ownership will dig into your wallet big.

The only one I could see owning is an R model (if I was convinced I liked the engine), easier to work on, but the quirks of their ABS brake system, and that nothing is easily done...... the bikes are beautiful looking and I'll bet the Kool-Aid tastes nice, but from this wrencher's eyes, just too much for me.

I'd rather have two other bikes that have maintenance costs less than half of a Beemer's. The Feej has been the best bike I have ever owned. There'll be a newer one here one day......

 

[ice_station_zebra]

I can vouch for everything Ray says. I owned a 2003 K1200RS....beautiful bike, loved the styling and the handling and the power! It was a real head turner But after 2 years and $3000 in maintenance costs and repairs (including tires) my wallet gave out. I think the breaking point for me was when they did the brakes (ABS) ....they charged me for 3 1/2 hours of labor at $110/hr shop rate + fluid + disposal & environment fee + 13% tax...finally out the door for $480!! Bleeding the brakes myself was not an option. Still, I loved that bike. Coincidentally, I replaced it with another fantastic bike...the FJR!

 

[bhendron]

"remove the gas tank (gas tank has to be removed to bleed the clutch)." WTF... That seems complicated on purpose!

 

[Fred W]

I bet BMW maintenance would cost me about the same as FJR maintenance has. Nothing! I do it myself and I'm sure I could do the Beemer stuff too. Did before on my past BMW models (R60/5, K100RT and R1100RS). The only truly scary thing about the newer Beemers is that CAN bus crap, but I'm sure there are ways to work on that too.

Oh, and some day I will own a K1200RS, flaming final drive or not!

 

[RaYzerman19]

Brother Frugal Fred, I'll agree with you that where's there's a will there's a way. Most of the time. To get you started on that K, you need to go out and buy that nice $50 thin special oil filter wrench to get up inside the engine where the oil filter is. I'm told some have a cover you have to remove first. Hopefully, somebody has found an aftermarket filter that might fit in that hole...... after you get the plastic off. Do you put a value your time? Oh wait, you need to change the trans fluid now as it's separate.

The ABS brake system is a two-part design. The lever and pedal do not push fluid to the calipers, they are only control circuits to trigger the ABS pump to come on and pump from its reservoir to the calipers. ABS pump on every time you hit the brakes (remember the early ones that had no brakes if the ignition key was off?). After you get the plastic off, the proper way to bleed is using BMW's black box to cycle the pump, there is a workaround but heaven forbid you get an air bubble in there or you're going to the dealer for the black box treatment (charging you all that labour to get the plastic off and on). Anyway, that should keep you busy for two hours or so, what should be less than an hour.

On the LT, the clutch bleeder is under the tank. Remove plug, install bleeder, bleed, remove bleeder, insert plug. Yeah it's different (the brake bleeders are this way too). 10 minute job is 2 hrs. Other Beemers must be different, maybe, we can hope. So, schedule all your major maintenance while you have most of the bike apart. You might always be scratching your head wondering why such and such had to be so complicated a design when simpler has served us well for years. Is it better?

Oversimplified, CAN bus is one wire carrying information from one module back and forth to an ECU, transceiver in each module handles the communication and handshakes. All of this saves wires. An accessory might be programmed to time out after such and such an event or ignition cycle..... yes there are workarounds, one includes wiring accessories to a fusebox that is taken from battery directly and is therefore isolated from the bus system. Others have accessories designed for CAN bus, and they cost more.

I am going to argue that you will spend more than 'nothing', certainly a lot more than FJR maintenance. A K1200RS would be real nice in the barn though. K1300GT is one of my faves, they killed it just after they got it right.

Anyway, I'm done talking about it. Apologies to the Beemer guys, I'm just saying they are great, there is a reason the maintenance costs are high, and probably there's not one in my future.