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Can I get the white stripes with mine? Please, Please!
I thought I was seeing a white bike also. Not for USA though.
Dave
I thought I was seeing a white bike also. Not for USA though.
Dave
I think there are enough changes to warrant calling it a Gen IV...6 speed, slipper clutch, LED/Adaptive lighting, re-designed dash...put it to a vote??I wouldn't say that....not even close IMO. BTW, I don't think there is an "official" generation ever bestowed by Yamaha. Generations are a designation the marketplace tended to apply after the MAJOR structural and styling updates in 2006 and harmonization of North America with the rest of the world on model year designation. I don't think one more gear or lighting updates constitute a major structural change nor have there been any significant styling changes.So is this officially Gen 4?
And I will still be designating it as Gen 3 in the matrix.
well, my $.02 worth is that a new 6 speed transmission ,slipper clutch , and LED Adaptive lighting trump a new glove compartment and "other detail changes"...I'd go so far as to say the only thing that would matter more would be a new engine. YMMV. Void where prohibited. NOT F.D.I.C. insured.Sure! Then the 2004 (2003 in Europe) should have been Gen 2 because they had ABS added, revised forks, brakes, glove compartment, and other detail changes....which makes the Gen 2 actually a 3....3 a 4...and the AE addition should then probably be a Gen 5....so this is now a Gen 6...or VI if you're Roman numeral inclined.
Oh crap, they changed ABS systems in 2008 along with wheels.....shift by another generation...I guess we're on Gen 7 now....damn!
Or maybe the 2016 is a Gen 3.5. Hmmmm.
I think you're dismissing the signficance of ABS to motorcycles, but to the larger point the engine was changed significantly in 2006 and 2013--another of principle reasons for a Gen designation change. The 2006 had fundamental fuel injection changes, resolved the dreaded tick, and a different alternator. In 2013 the head was redone, fuel injection, and other innards were updated significantly. It doesn't appear the 2016 has changed it's engine any from 2015...other than if you choose to consider a clutch a part of the engine vs. the drive system.I'd go so far as to say the only thing that would matter more would be a new engine.
Have I missed something? Was there an engine/chassis change between gen 2 and gen 3?Not that anyone cares but I think that the range of incremental improvements warrant a moniker of Gen 3.5. I would say that a major design change (engine/chassis) would be needed to make it a Gen 4.
If it been just the lights or the clutch or the 6-speed I would have called it a 3.1.
You got that right. And even with bags off, every year looks great; an impressive design characteristic.To the untrained eye, even the Gen I bike still looks current. What a tribute to this vehicles' longevity and reliability.
It's Ignacio with "c" :insert ******* icon here:Since ignatio killed the original thread... :insert pitchfork mob here: lo
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