A father and son 48+ attempt

[pmspaul]

The last few years my dad and I have made a concerted effort to plan some kind of ride to do together. This year he wanted to up the ante a little bit. I mentioned riding up to Hyder Seek in June since I've never been to Alaska. He asked which states I hadn't been to yet and I couldn't remember. I decided if he really wanted to ride, we'd just visit all of them on the way to Hyder and then we'd have ourselves a ride, and thus our 48+ attempt was born.

I've ridden in multiple rallies, and (unofficially) completed several different IBA rides, but have yet to certify one and get myself an IBA #. My plan is to finally correct that situation at the end of this ride. FWIW, his last IBA ride was a 50cc, lest you think we're entering into this lacking any LD experience.

I've got our tentative route shown below. I've groomed it to the best of my abilities, but wanted to submit it for the skilled and experienced riders in the mix. If you see something I've overlooked, a road we would be better off avoiding, have helpful advice, experience or whatever, please chime in.

According to S&T, the route is 8621.4 miles. We plan to leave at 8pm on May 31st, which will give us until 4pm Hyder time on June 10th to arrive. We were planning to attack the miles hard in the beginning to allow(hopefully) for wiggle room at the end. We are allowing 2 days to travel through Canada to Hyder.

Day 1 - 1518 miles

Day 2 - 1021 miles

Day 3 - 1011 miles

Day 4 - 868 miles

Day 5 - 1046 miles

Day 6 - 995 miles

Day 7 - 899 miles

Day 8 - 355 miles

Day 9 - 476 miles

Day 10 - 432 miles

If there are some forum members in Washington willing to act as witnesses, I was thinking once we get to Washington, I would at least get the 48-10 ride locked in. I will be running a Spot 2, and will post a link to the Spotwalla trip page once I have it set up, in case anyone is interested.

-Paul

Spotwalla Trip Link

 

[101stpathfinder]

. FWIW, his last IBA ride was a 50cc, lest you think we're entering into this lacking any LD experience.

Paul,

Glad to see this!!! You tell your father "Hello". What a special ride! :yahoo:

I love the route you have chosen, it looks great to me. Once you get out of the

east you will be home free. I will be following this with interest.

Best wishes, Tony

BTW- I think I have a photo of him on that ride- Got to go to work now- I'll post later....

 

[Harald]

Sounds like an awesome trip! I'm near Tacoma, WA and would gladly meet you for a witness signature.

 

[jzzmusician]

Looks like a hell of a ride.

I'm in Walla Walla, WA. Looks like you'll be real close to here. I will sign most anything. PM me for my contact info.

 

[smellthat?]

My arse got sore reading this post! Looks like an awesome time best of luck!

 

[SkooterG]

Wow, what a great idea. I'm sure you'll love this F&S ride - memories of a lifetime.

Looks like a good route, however one comment - your first day of 1500 miles and doing those miles in the east with all the stops you'll be having to make seems a bit aggressive to me. Don't want to totally wipe yourselves out the first day.

 

[Mount Rainier]

From looking at your map it's hard to determine what route you'll be taking in the Seattle metro area. Coming from the east on I-90, go north on I-405 to avoid heavy floating bridge traffic across Lake Washington and I-5 North congestion. I-405 has it's challenges in afternoon commutes but it would be my preferred slab of the two options.

Also, instead of the boarder crossing at Blaine, WA, consider the crossing at Sumas, WA. Much less traffic and it's open 24hrs. One last thing: "DON'T FORGET YOUR PASSPORT!"

I'll be fellowing along with considerable envy.... :clapping: Have a great trip.

Keep Going!

 

[Barry 07 FJR1300AE]

This looks awesome. You will be pretty close to me in KY. As for your time table, If you rode the same miles everyday for 10 days straight you would have to ride 12 hours averaging 70Mph everyday. Not sure that is even do able, even if it was sunny and 70 each day. The first two days you will have to be on the bike traveling 70mph for 36 hours with only 12 hours left to sleep eat gas and etc. Better give yourselves a month to be on the safe side! Plus u still gotta get home. Good luck, Ill try to watch your track and catch you near KY. Maybe I'll follow you for a tank of gas!

 

[Patriot]

my SS1000 ride included your 22-25 or what seems to be Hammond, LA to St Louis

I'd love to ride with you to min Jackson, MS depending on your circumstances

Memphis was only potential hiccup on my there and back and was high construction, but fine when "non rush hour."

btw, I googled other's 48 rides to see their routes which are readily available to study for additional research

didn't a member do this sucessfully a year ago or something...I'd check his route out fa sure

(as opposed to menstrual cycles, ya'll are gonna have to syncronize bladder activity)

 

[SkooterG]

This looks awesome. You will be pretty close to me in KY. As for your time table, If you rode the same miles everyday for 10 days straight you would have to ride 12 hours averaging 70Mph everyday. Not sure that is even do able, even if it was sunny and 70 each day. The first two days you will have to be on the bike traveling 70mph for 36 hours with only 12 hours left to sleep eat gas and etc. Better give yourselves a month to be on the safe side!

Uhhhhhh........ it's an Iron Butt Association ride. It HAS to be completed in 10 days to get credit/certification for the ride. While not easy, it is certainly doable. They ain't supposed to be easy.

Clicky.

 

[pmspaul]

Paul,

Glad to see this!!! You tell your father "Hello". What a special ride! :yahoo:

I love the route you have chosen, it looks great to me. Once you get out of the

east you will be home free. I will be following this with interest.

Best wishes, Tony

BTW- I think I have a photo of him on that ride- Got to go to work now- I'll post later....

Tony,

I'll let him know you say hello. You've given me so much help and advice for this trip that I dare not fail!

 

[pmspaul]

Wow, what a great idea. I'm sure you'll love this F&S ride - memories of a lifetime.

Looks like a good route, however one comment - your first day of 1500 miles and doing those miles in the east with all the stops you'll be having to make seems a bit aggressive to me. Don't want to totally wipe yourselves out the first day.

You're right, it is a little aggressive and we don't want to wipe ourselves out. Our motivation wasn't just to bang out a hard first day, but we chose an evening start in hopes of knocking out much of the northeast in the wee hours and trying to get through many of the major metro areas while avoiding rush hour times. Our goal was to try to squeak through the DC area and get south a little bit before stopping.

We're flexible if things aren't going to plan, but do you think it's worth pushing to get clear of the metro areas, put the north east behind us and get into areas with a little smoother sailing?

 

[rickcorwn]

I did the 48+ back in 2005 here's a link to my ride. It's a heck of a ride and with your dad that will be really cool :good:

Look for my PM soon.

 

[Indian Scout]

The last few years my dad and I have made a concerted effort to plan some kind of ride to do together. This year he wanted to up the ante a little bit. I mentioned riding up to Hyder Seek in June since I've never been to Alaska. He asked which states I hadn't been to yet and I couldn't remember. I decided if he really wanted to ride, we'd just visit all of them on the way to Hyder and then we'd have ourselves a ride, and thus our 48+ attempt was born.

I've ridden in multiple rallies, and (unofficially) completed several different IBA rides, but have yet to certify one and get myself an IBA #. My plan is to finally correct that situation at the end of this ride. FWIW, his last IBA ride was a 50cc, lest you think we're entering into this lacking any LD experience.

I've got our tentative route shown below. I've groomed it to the best of my abilities, but wanted to submit it for the skilled and experienced riders in the mix. If you see something I've overlooked, a road we would be better off avoiding, have helpful advice, experience or whatever, please chime in.

According to S&T, the route is 8621.4 miles. We plan to leave at 8pm on May 31st, which will give us until 4pm Hyder time on June 10th to arrive. We were planning to attack the miles hard in the beginning to allow(hopefully) for wiggle room at the end. We are allowing 2 days to travel through Canada to Hyder.

Day 1 - 1518 miles

Day 2 - 1021 miles

Day 3 - 1011 miles

Day 4 - 868 miles

Day 5 - 1046 miles

Day 6 - 995 miles

Day 7 - 899 miles

Day 8 - 355 miles

Day 9 - 476 miles

Day 10 - 432 miles

If there are some forum members in Washington willing to act as witnesses, I was thinking once we get to Washington, I would at least get the 48-10 ride locked in. I will be running a Spot 2, and will post a link to the Spotwalla trip page once I have it set up, in case anyone is interested.

-Paul

Paul,

I suggest that if you are not a member of the LDRiders List that you go to there web page, https://ibdone.org/mailman/listinfo/ldrider_ibdone.org and sign up. After you are excepted to the list post an interduction and then ask these questions. I am sure you will get a lot of usful information from people that have actually done the 48 in 10.

To those that say they want to meet and ride with them, you must remember they will be on the clock and not have time to socialize.

 

[pmspaul]

From looking at your map it's hard to determine what route you'll be taking in the Seattle metro area. Coming east on I-90, go north on I-405 to avoid heavy floating bridge traffic across Lake Washington and I-5 North congestion. I-405 has it's challenges in afternoon commutes but it would be my preferred slab of the two options.

Also, instead of the boarder crossing at Blaine, WA, consider the crossing at Sumas, WA. Much less traffic and it's open 24hrs. One last thing: "DON'T FORGET YOUR PASSPORT!"

I'll be fellowing along with considerable envy.... :clapping: Have a great trip.

Keep Going!

I checked the route out and it is currently routing us up 405. Also, the border crossing we're using is the Sumas crossing. Not through any planning or research, just because it was more direct for us to head up to Prince George through Sumas. Excellent advice though, exactly what I'm after. Thanks!

 

[101stpathfinder]

This looks awesome. You will be pretty close to me in KY. As for your time table, If you rode the same miles everyday for 10 days straight you would have to ride 12 hours averaging 70Mph everyday. Not sure that is even do able, even if it was sunny and 70 each day. The first two days you will have to be on the bike traveling 70mph for 36 hours with only 12 hours left to sleep eat gas and etc. Better give yourselves a month to be on the safe side! Plus u still gotta get home. Good luck, Ill try to watch your track and catch you near KY. Maybe I'll follow you for a tank of gas!

Hey Barry,

I heard a rumor (But you have to promise not to tell ANYONE) PROMISE?

There were 2 riders on this forum that were in a rally. The scoring was simple, to see who could

ride the most miles on their bikes in a 24 hour time period. Both of their totals for 24 hours exceeded

2400 miles. Do the math on that one!!! NOW... Do you think this ride is doable?

BTW- You 2 guys are exposed ! I Know who you are........And one of them is on this thread......

 

[pmspaul]

btw, I googled other's 48 rides to see their routes which are readily available to study for additional research

didn't a member do this sucessfully a year ago or something...I'd check his route out fa sure

(as opposed to menstrual cycles, ya'll are gonna have to syncronize bladder activity)

I did get a chance to look at other routes and talk with some riders who have completed this ride. The forum member you're thinking of is 101stpathfinder. Tony is a lot more of an animal than me. He did his ride as a 48++ (Canada & Mexico) and a 10/10ths. He was extremely helpful to me in the early planning stages. The thought of having to average over 130 miles more per day than what I'm planning leaves me in awe of his ride.

 

[escapefjrtist]

Potential witness north of Seattle and right on your route! Happy to provide whatever assistance is needed...oil changes, tires changes, minor maintenance, etc. We've got an army of folks available up here in the Seattle area that can be called on.

No big plans during your listed time frame. Let me know if there is anything we can do.

--G

 

[101stpathfinder]

Wow, what a great idea. I'm sure you'll love this F&S ride - memories of a lifetime.

Looks like a good route, however one comment - your first day of 1500 miles and doing those miles in the east with all the stops you'll be having to make seems a bit aggressive to me. Don't want to totally wipe yourselves out the first day.

You're right, it is a little aggressive and we don't want to wipe ourselves out. Our motivation wasn't just to bang out a hard first day, but we chose an evening start in hopes of knocking out much of the northeast in the wee hours and trying to get through many of the major metro areas while avoiding rush hour times. Our goal was to try to squeak through the DC area and get south a little bit before stopping.

We're flexible if things aren't going to plan, but do you think it's worth pushing to get clear of the metro areas, put the north east behind us and get into areas with a little smoother sailing?

Paul,

Went to work and considered your route and timing. SkooterG already stated one of my thoughts... I was also bothered

about the BBG (?) the first day. I remembered when I decided to do the 100CCC, I was required to do a NON-Extreme ride

before attempting the 100CCC. THEN I had to do a BBG on the first leg to qualify to finish out the 2nd leg. Maybe one of

the Vets knows ??? I checked the 48+ rules and it did not mention it, where as the 100CCC rules do mention it. I think that

you are fine because you have done a multi day rally (?) Just want to make sure. IF you are required to do an extreme ride

before you complete your 48+, I think the best way might be to grind out the NE states... get a good sleep in... then knock

it out the 2nd day. Just a thought.

I found the toll booths and traffic and construction slowed me down. If you do knock out that first day goal- I think you

could PUSH your bikes the rest of the way in time. Well, maybe not your father... Is he taken the wing? :lol:

Gonna PM you tomorrow after I think out an idea...

Have a great ride- Jealous in Florida, Tony