Anyone Done A Custom Map

[Bike Effects]

It now is smooth as silk, wheelies in first gear and dynos at 128 hp.

Did he happen to take a baseline run before the PC-III? On another thread, someone was interested in torque and HP improvements.

Yes.

So what was the difference between the base run and the final run?

 

[yanktar]

About 3 hp more peak. Plus more power all up and down the curve.

 

[Bike Effects]

About 3 hp more peak. Plus more power all up and down the curve.

Thanks...

 

[Bounce]

If you have the dyno chart, you can post it here. No one can be upset about that. People would want to know before they buy anyway.

If you don't have a place to host the jpg file, send it to me and I'll host it for displaying here.

 

[yanktar]

If you have the dyno chart, you can post it here. No one can be upset about that. People would want to know before they buy anyway.
If you don't have a place to host the jpg file, send it to me and I'll host it for displaying here.

That's certainly true. I just have to get around to doing it.

 

[Bike Effects]

If you have the dyno chart, you can post it here. No one can be upset about that. People would want to know before they buy anyway.
If you don't have a place to host the jpg file, send it to me and I'll host it for displaying here.

That's certainly true. I just have to get around to doing it.

I'll post them for you if you want. I have the space.

 

[yanktar]

Thanks, I appreciate the offer, but I can handle it. I just have to scan the thing.

Meantime, Ivan installed the Wilbers shock and fork springs. The ride feels stiffer, and yet I don't feel the bumps. It's like it's less absorbant, but all the small rough road stuff disappears!

He also installed the Spiegler rotors and the Carbone pads. I haven't really noticed a difference, but they are AWESOME looking!

Ivan didn't do the brake lines since it would cost me a lot more to install them, probably as much as everything else. So those will wait till winter, along with the speed bleeders.

Meanwhile, since he was pulling the rear wheel for the rotor, I asked Ivan to pull the shaft and check the splines. Yup, they were nearly dry! He thought I was a little nuts for asking him to open it up, but when he saw it, he was glad I had.

Yeah, I know, I'm a wimp for not installing the stuff myself. But, if I wanted it on at ALL for this summer, I had to have it done.

 

[Windjammer]

YT, I gotta say I'm with ya all the way on protecting your relationship with Ivan. It's his business to make the decisons about how and whether to share the info, and only he will benefit from it, or not.

Finding a great MC mechanic is like finding GOLD. I wouldn't compromise that relationship under any circumstances either. I wish I could find someone trustworthy to work on my bike, but I can't so I'm stuck on my own. It's not that I mind the work so much, but I'm busy and sometimes it's a PITA to be fixing shit when you don't have a lot of time to spare. You're lucky to have Ivan - there aren't too many like him left around.

 

[FJR-Kevin]

Yanktar,

I understand your decision to not let anyone else have the PC Map that Ivan made for your bike. So my next comments are not meant toward you but to Ivan himself.

I'm stationed in Yokosuka, Japan with the U.S. Navy. There is a PC Tuning Center about four hours away from here that charges $400-600 dollars for tuning a PC equipped bike! If I could use your service to create a PC Map for my bike I would. However, to stay the Map is your property is a bunch of B.S. I can see you not wanting your local customers to give it away to others but certainly it should be OK to give it to others not in your state. What's the big deal anyway? Is it Top Secret or something?

Anyway Yankter...sorry about that, just venting. I have a 2004 European model. I have the stock Euro Map installed now but sure would like to get a better Map from someone to see if my bike could/would run any better. So if anybody has a good Map that you are willing to share please PM me. Thanks

 

[yanktar]

Kevin:

I understand your frustration and sympathize. That's a long distance to go, and a lot of money to pay for a map. You don't even know how much time and effort they will put into it. Ivan took 2 days because he needed to let the bike cool down several times.

First off, Ivan doesn't follow this board or any FJR1300 board. He won't see your message. He does follow the FZ1OA board though, and some others (probably R1 and R6). I know he follows some of the Suzuki sport bike boards. I don't know any of those boards but the FZ1 board, which is:

www.yamahafz1oa.com/forum

Second:

Do I have the legal ownership of the map or does Ivan? I probably do, I even expect that I do, but it doesn't matter. I made an agreement with Ivan, and I intend to keep it. That's all there is to it.

Windjammer: thanks for the support. Ivan isn't just a great mech, he's a world-famous tuner. His jet kits have been talked up in Motorcyclist, and he ships them to Europe and Australia. I can't do a custom map--I don't have a dyno, or an exhaust analyzer, but I can do the other work--I just don't have the time. I never trust the work shops do that I haven't done. So being able to trust Ivan's work is a blessing.

 

[Bounce]

I have the stock Euro Map installed now but sure would like to get a better Map from someone to see if my bike could/would run any better.  So if anybody has a good Map that you are willing to share please PM me.  Thanks 

Check the links I posted on page 1 of this topic. There are maps there for download that many different people and companies have developed.

 

[sparky3008]

I asked Ivan to pull the shaft and check the splines
What exactly is this referring to? I asume it isn't just talking about shaft oil being low? Is there some other part of the shaft that needs to be manually greased or something?

Gene

Oh Yanker just wanted to add I understand you decision to keep your word with Ivan. To me that shows what a stand up guy you are and there should be more of you around.

 

[radman]

What exactly is this referring to?

The driveshaft. Many have come from delivery damn near dry as a bone, with rust etc developing 3 months from new. Ditto the rear wheel where it connects with the final drive unit. How to-

https://www.fjrtech.com/getdbitem.cfm?item=36

 

[sparky3008]

Thanks Radman...

 

[Bounce]

I asked Ivan to pull the shaft and check the splines

What exactly is this referring to?

Some more light reading:

https://www.bikes-n-spikes.org/maint/spline/spline.html

https://www.bikes-n-spikes.org/maint/ujoint/uj.html

https://www.bikes-n-spikes.org/maint/sa/sa.html

The splines should be done at each rear tire change. The others according to Yamaha's recommended intervals.

 

[FtLFjr]

Let me make it simple.
If I give the map away, Ivan will refuse to ever do business with me again. Period.

So the choice is mine. I prefer to be able do business with Ivan. End of story.

Hey Y/T,

The reality is the map might be like most any other piece of commercial software you don't own it, your just renting it. :haha: :bleh:

 

[yanktar]

Let me make it simple. 
If I give the map away, Ivan will refuse to ever do business with me again. Period.

So the choice is mine.  I prefer to be able do business with Ivan.  End of story.

Hey Y/T,

The reality is the map might be like most any other piece of commercial software you don't own it, your just renting it. :haha: :bleh:

That's not clear. Usually, if you hire someone to develop S/W for you that S/W is yours, but not always. Depends on the contractual agreements.

However, in this case, the agreement is that I won't give the S/W away. Since I have aftermarket slip-ons, I FULLY understand Ivan's position and am sympathetic to it.

 

[Randy]

I can absolutely see his point in wanting to protect it. If it was made generally available, and didn't work for a particular bike, then his name gets tagged with poor performance.

You could equally equip 2 FJRs and chances are good that the custom maps created for each bike would be slightly different. Hence the name 'custom'.

Think back into the days of jet kits. The manufacturers would provide a baseline setup, but, each bike had to be tuned to get the best performance. Just because 1 bike worked with 127.5 mains, clips in the 2nd slot, 35 pilot jets, idle screw 2 turns out, and float height of 13 mm, doesn't mean every bike with the same set of mods will benefit from that setup.

 

[yanktar]

I can absolutely see his point in wanting to protect it.  If it was made generally available, and didn't work for a particular bike, then his name gets tagged with poor performance.  You could equally equip 2 FJRs and chances are good that the custom maps created for each bike would be slightly different.  Hence the name 'custom'.

Think back into the days of jet kits.  The manufacturers would provide a baseline setup, but, each bike had to be tuned to get the best performance.  Just because 1 bike worked with 127.5 mains, clips in the 2nd slot, 35 pilot jets, idle screw 2 turns out, and float height of 13 mm, doesn't mean every bike with the same set of mods will benefit from that setup.

And Ivan designs and sells AWESOME jet kits that combine increased power with improved rideability and cold-weather starting and performance.

 

[yanktar]

OK, Finally got a decent ride in with the FJR...been a busy time in my life.

First off: The Wilbers shock! This thing is truly amazing. I'm not one to gush, but I am truly SHOCKED (no pun intended) by the improvement in the ride. Bumps just shrink or vanish but there is NO loss of feeling for the road. It's like magic! Despite all the nonsense of them not being able to ship them, then Klaus not shipping them locally, it is WELL worth it for the ride improvement alone. What little handling I was able to check, it seemed silky. WOW!

I also did the fork springs. I've yet to be able to tell any difference, other than that the WHOLE ride is improved.

Spiegler rotors and Carbone pads. Frankly, I don't yet feel any difference. The pads may need to bed in a bit, but, if anything, I felt a tiny vibration in the front, like a rotor might be JUST a hair out of round...or else that's a side effect of the uneven rotor edge. Now I haven't pushed the brakes hard, so maybe I'll notice an improvement then. I haven't noticed the brakes any worse, just not noticably better. Right now, all I see is the "Bling-Bling" factor. But the stock brakes on the '04 ABS are pretty damn good, so an improvement would have to be very large to be noticed.

S/S lines and bleeders will wait.

The map: VERY smooth, lots more power. In 30 miles of riding, it only went down one bar on the fuel, from fillup. The heat, on this already hot day? Well, it never went over two bars until I hit stop-n-go traffic. Out on the highway, it dropped down again.

Meanwhile, the GIVI tall shield offers EXCELLENT protection--better than the stock '04 shield by far. I used gold "Tasty Nuts" to hold the shield on--I HATE those nylon things and the T/Ns look SO much better, and, I hope, in an accident (which I sincerely intend to avoid) the rubber nuts will burst. The Tasty Nuts are just a tad too short for the stock shield but the GIVI must be thinner.