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What would DoG do?
No, we're already stupid. It just provides a place for us to showcase it....Does the Internet make people stupid?
No, we're already stupid. It just provides a place for us to showcase it....Does the Internet make people stupid?
It's even more fun to use your friend's phone (and more evil if they don't know....)Huh? :unknw:txtn is hawtI blame it all on cell phones, and those cryptic text messages.
sending text messages on one's cell phone can be fun and enjoyable
...and with a bit of planning, downright evil :evilsmiley:
shee edonmatter got all you punch marks in ma baggy pants dog cane be all cool an shee usn dat complketed shee-------- ya well f stoopid tha done let ya stay in skool but so long then ya gradgeateI followed a link from this forum over to a speed-traps site and came across this post:
"I was caught in this speed trap I was going 68 miles per hour and was pulled over by a motorcycle unit he said do you know how fast your going I said ye 68 mph, he said no you were doing 83mph what a bunch of crooks"
The above comment gets an F- in punctuation. It's missing about 32 periods, including the last one. A semi-colon would have been an astonishing display of punctuation dexterity rarely seen on the Internet. And how did the poster determine that a comma was necessary? Better make that a solid F instead of F-.
The above post and others on the Internet make me wonder: Is punctuation completely optional on the Internet? Or maybe this person is just uneducated (stupid?). If it's the latter, then 90% of all respondents on, say, YouTube, are uneducated (in the case of YouTube, add angry and vindictive; but that'll have to be another post).
Does punctuation matter?
It is also said that someone reminded Churchill (not Ward) of the rule that you are never supposed to end a sentence with a preposition. He supposedly said, "Madam, that is the sort of nonsense up with which I will not put."It reminds me of the old Winston Churchill story….
A woman at a party came up the Winston Churchill and derided him for being drunk. Mr. Churchill turned to the woman and proclaimed that he was in fact drunk but that in the morning he would be sober. He then challenged her that while his condition was temporary, she in the morning would still be ugly. I submit to you that those that struggle with written language have the ability to learn and increase their skill, but some of you will be elitist and arrogant in the morning!
It's never too late to pick up a book and learn on their own. Good communication skills sometimes come in handy. I mean, sheesh, bad punctuation is like wearing white shoes before Easter... just tacky.‘Improper’ spoken and written language conventions will always be the elitist’s way to degrade those who by choice or circumstance did not have access to higher levels of learning.
Interestingly, "The Elements of Style," the book that all grammar monkeys were taught in college to use as their guide, has run into some heavy shelling from a very credible source.It's never too late to pick up a book and learn on their own. Good communication skills sometimes come in handy. I mean, sheesh, bad punctuation is like wearing white shoes before Easter... just tacky.‘Improper’ spoken and written language conventions will always be the elitist’s way to degrade those who by choice or circumstance did not have access to higher levels of learning.
I appreciate that we're all entitled to our own opinion, and the sharing of these keeps the thread interesting. If we all thought exactly the same way, we'd have little to say to each other.I have watched this thread with some interest from its inception and find I have to comment. I find the premise of the thread to be elitist and arrogant.
Jill I appreciate your response and I am going to respectfully reply......I appreciate that we're all entitled to our own opinion, and the sharing of these keeps the thread interesting. If we all thought exactly the same way, we'd have little to say to each other.I have watched this thread with some interest from its inception and find I have to comment. I find the premise of the thread to be elitist and arrogant.
I disagree, most respectfully, about the premise of the thread being elitist and arrogant. If the critique was of a student, in the process of being educated, it certainly would not be fair to point out their inadequacies. We're talking about adults here, who have the option to further their education if they choose to. Granted, there are those who have learning disabilities and those to whom the doors of education are closed for whatever reason, but that leaves the rest of us.
My education was that of whole language. I honestly have no idea about the terms used to qualify grammar and punctuation. Through my own reading, I've learned what is right and what is not right. I chose to do that, because when I write something, I would like it to be taken seriously and be easily readable. If i chus to right if diffrunt it like gets tuff to reed so the person like find it hard to unnerstand wot i mean.
When the writer is capable of writing properly, and chooses not to, it implies a lack of respect for the reader.
Of course, this is JMHO and YMMV.
Absolutely! We agree on this point completely. Now, we must ask how we can determine who is wilfully disregarding the rules (other than Mad Mike2) and who doesn't even KNOW that there are rules.If, as a matter of course, the person intentionally tries to disregard proper convention, then I say flog them.
Well said, Jill! As a self educated boor I try to look beyond the simple spelling mistakes, misuse of words and punctuation errors to appreciate what the other members of this collective have to offer. There are some wise and grizzled human beings on this planet that neither can nor should be forced to live up to my (or by extension, others) expectations. Mine were directed toward The Princess.Absolutely! We agree on this point completely. Now, we must ask how we can determine who is wilfully disregarding the rules (other than Mad Mike2) and who doesn't even KNOW that there are rules.If, as a matter of course, the person intentionally tries to disregard proper convention, then I say flog them.
]b]I do agree that no-one should be discouraged from participation due to a lack of ability.[/b] Heck, look at some of the idiots that we allow to share our roads with us when we ride. There is a definite lack of ability out there, but they have (or assume) drivers' licenses anyway.
Well call me elitist if you will, but if you are 'smart' enough to use a computer, you should be 'smart' enough (or not too lazy) to use some form of punctuation/capitalization/etc... to make your posts readable. It doesn't take 'higher levels of learning" to know how to do that. :glare:‘Improper’ spoken and written language conventions will always be the elitist’s way to degrade those who by choice or circumstance did not have access to higher levels of learning.
That could be said more loudly Rich. Thank you....We need to be accepting and humble in the way we judge others.....
Maybe there should be a forum area for, "Queens english" only posters.
Did somebody call?The English language is in constant flux: from Chaucer through 'Willy-the-Shake',
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