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Outstanding Ride Report on Rawhyde Adventures Training Camp, Back Road Bob: You are all ready for Copper Canyon this November, we'll let you lead! You accomplished an incredible M/C riding trek!

Earlier this year I decided to sign up for a trip to Copper Canyon with BeemerDon and MotoDiscovery. My experience off road was very limited. My first trip was Apache Trail to Apache Lake. Second trip was back road from Florence to Oracle and then up the backside of Mt Lemmon and the third was out to Montana Mountain. Each trip was an adventure and I realized how little I knew about “how to ride offroad.”  I had already spent three months in a custom fit, very stylish plastic body cast from a plane crash in 06 – broken back, leg, ankle, , rods and pins, blood clots, needles in my stomach twice a day. I did not want to repeat this scenario again on a motorcycle. At 62, my body just does not bounce up or back as fast as it used to.I talked to Skip at MotoDiscovery and he felt comfortable that I could make the trip. He said they could provide “on the road” training as we went. I had the nagging feeling that if I went I would be way over my head. I really didn’t want to crash in Mexico and I didn’t want to be a burden to fellow riders and their trip to Copper Canyon.

I called Jim Hyde of Rawhyde Adventures in Castiac, Ca. They are a certified BMW training camp. When I told Jim of my experience and my desire to ride to Copper Canyon, his reply was “no way”. I had done some research on Rawhyde and Jim comes highly recommended by just about everyone. We talked for awhile about his basic training program and then he got all excited about his new CV Expedition that he had been working on for some time. This would be their “beta” run and he would be leading it along with all of his trainers. I thought about for a couple of days, called him up and signed up. He is the kind of guy that even though you have never met, you have known him for a long time. Training and expedition ran from Friday 5/14 to Saturday 5/22

Rawhyde started at 5 pm on Friday. I decided to leave Thursday morning and visit Joshua Tree National Park which I had never been to. I balked at the $15.00 entrance fee and the $10.00 per night camping, but it was the best $25.00 I had spent in a long time. The rock formations and the Joshua tree forests were spectacular. I was short on time to explore the back roads of the park, but will return late fall or early spring to do so.

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I got to Rawhyde at 5 on Friday afternoon. The driveway is about ¾ mile of gravel and pot holed tarmac complete with wandering cows as you approach Jim’s place. The training camp takes up quite a bit of the 120 acres that his dad bought in the late 1940’s.

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There two bunkhouses, a shaded area for motorcycles and one large building that is 1/3 bar, 1/3 dining, 1/3 kitchen. The bar is open and really well stocked and their two chefs put out quite a meal for breakfast, lunch and dinner. Jim, his wife Steph and their daughter pour wine throughout dinner and the trainers are the waiters. It is a family oriented meal with a lot of laughter and conversation.

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Jim and Del

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The group consisted of business owners, lawyer, neurologist, a couple of dermatologist, concrete finisher, world traveler, professor, woman prison guard and a couple of retired folks. It was a mixed group ranging from 24 to 75.

      Training started at 9 am on Saturday morning, with an hour break for lunch

and continued until 5 pm. I did not get to take any pictures while training, just

concentrated on the maneuvers. This is a list of the drills we worked on

Saturday and Sunday.

Body position for effective off-road riding

Throttle, brake and clutch techniques

Weight-shift techniques for steering

Balance techniques

Turning technique using counterbalancing

Obstacle avoidance

How to control front and rear wheel skids

Hard Acceleration technique on dirt and gravel

Hill Climbing

Descending steep hills in a controlled manner

How to ride in Sand and Gravel

How to recover from a stall on a steep hill.

  How to turn around, fully loaded on a steep hill.

Here is a shot of me in the sand. Can’t say much for the next attempt.

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Monday.

I felt a lot more confident and comfortable than I had two days earlier and ready for a 5 day trip to Base Camp and Death Valley. Since this was the first CV Expedition all five trainers came along with Jim. Rounding out the group were four from the introduction class and two from the advanced class. We also had a support truck for gear, food and our great chef. Meals on wheels in the backcountry. We left after breakfast and after a short freeway ride, took a 45 mile dirt road along a covered aquaduct across Antelope Valley to Mohave, then to Red Rock Canyon State Park for lunch. I was slow and still hesitant about going fast along dirt roads, but managed. After lunch, we took a long, rocky, sandy, gravel, sometime single track to Burro Schmidt’s tunnel and then took a similar road to get back on the pave road to Trona.

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Shawn. Trip leader after Jim, Rawhyde photographer and all around great guy..

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Base Camp is just north of Trona where Jim has about 10 acres. The camp sits on the side of a hill with a trailer for kitchen and shower and a large army tent for dining and talks. After dinner, we had a paramedic spend a couple of hours going thru first aid. We had pitched tents earlier and gazed at the Milky Way as we got up in the middle of the night as duty called. Not much out there. It had been a really long day…

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Tuesday.

We all took it easy in the morning. After breakfast, we talked about tools and repairs offroad and replaced the valve gasket on one of the bikes. Afterward, we spent a couple of hours going over GPS use and editing tracks. After lunch, we headed out to Minetta Mine. Road was a little more difficult than the day before. Bigger rocks, more washouts, deeper gravel and sand, tighter single tracks.

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After the mine, we were given the choice of heading back to Base Camp for ice cold beer or spending another hour or so, crossing Panamint Valley and heading to Ballarat. Unanimous that beer can wait. The dirt road was in fairly good condition and I thought I had greatly improved as I was doing 50-60 mph, until we arrived in Ballarat for some cold sodas and found out a couple were doing about 110. Of course they are some 20+ years younger!

Sign at Ballarat.

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Proprietor, about 90 years old with a lot of stories

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Sign above door

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Wednesday

Everyone up early, packing, getting reading for what will be the hardest day of the trip. It will be a  strenuous day and warm with temps around 90. We head up to the dirt road that overlooks Panamint Valley and begin

to descend to the valley floor.

Jim giving pep talk and safety issues.

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Overlooking Panamint Valley and descent to valley floor.

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It is single track and we are all loaded down with panniers and gear. Within the first 300 yards, I decide to move away the sheer cliff to the right, over correct and fall to the right. I am only doing about 5 mph, I clear the bike, but my left shin and calf catch the crash bars as I come down. No bid deal. No harm, no foul. I get help to right the bike and continue. I only fell once during training and now I fall with five minutes of starting Death Valley. (side note for falling during training was 26 times by one of the advanced riders).

An hour later, we pull into Ballarat again for a short break and I roll up my riding pants to check out my left shin. From my knee to my boot, my leg is swollen to twice normal size. I don’t attempt to take my boot off. One of the trainers remarks this is a good time to take out our extra large complementary first aid kits and perform first aid. He removes an ace bandage, wraps my leg, gives me 4 ibuprofen and says “ time to mount up”. The hardest part is just down the road. If nothing else, adrenaline will take me a long long way.

I don’t have any photos of the road to Goler Wash. It was about 18 miles of sand, serious sand and more serious sand. I only wiped out once when I plowed into a sand bank, but I guess I provided a lot of amusement for the riders behind me. My body was flying one way while the bike went the other way. My saves bordered on miraculous and some wanted to know if I did bull riding in my spare time. I am definitely getting better in sand and as Rawhyde says “ You got to love sand to ride in it” I’m not at the love stage yet.

Completely wiped out by the sand, it was time to take Goler Wash. It wasn’t too bad until we got to this.

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We spent some time figuring out the best line. There really wasn’t one. A couple of trainers went up and made it.

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The rest of us preferred the human come along method.

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Here is a photo of Lance, just attacking the rocks.

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The last trainer to go up is Keith, a motorcycle cop. He almost made it until the bike turned sharply right into a rock face 10’ high. He bounced off, motorcycle and rider tumbled over backwards. It took 6 people to right the bike and Jim asked Keith if a push for the last 4’ would be OK. He say “no way”, turned around, motored down, turned around, and with the largest set of cajones I’ve ever seen, blasted up and over the rocks. Killed the engine, kneeled down, and starting humping the biggest boulder in front of him!! Gotta love Mother Nature!

After that, Mengel Pass and the Rock Garden.

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That is an offroad smile, believe it or not.

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Support truck coming thru the rock garden. Here I learned to shut the engine down and just use clutch for braking. Very effective.

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We stopped at another desert camp with running water to rest and cool down and left for our campsite for the night. I don’t remember the name, but there was no

one around for at least 20 miles that we knew of. The wild burros, across the road, talked to us all night Had one of the best meals I can remember by our super chef. Talked around the campfire of the day’s high’s and lo’s and slept like the dead. Went to sleep thinking about how far I’ve come in five days. Riding trails that were beyond my capabilities a week ago.

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Thursday.

Leisurely breakfast. Road down to Death Valley has been in the past a horrible washboard, sandy, gravelly nightmare. We expected the worst and left right after eating. Single track for miles. Then sand and gravel, but much better than expected. We rode for several hours and I was really in the grove. At one point, Shawn was on the left taking photos and Jim was on the right, directing everyone to pull off for lunch. I blew straight thru with a wild grin on my face. Sand and gravel were my friends and I was cruising! About five minutes I hear a horn and stay to the right to let him pass. I hear a horn again and this time pull to the right to let him pass and nearly run Jim off the road. He hollers” where the hell you going!!??xx@@%%”. I stop and he tells me “ didn’t you see us back there??” I replied “ yes, but I didn’t think we were supposed to stop!!”  As it turns out, one of the trainers blew right by them, and continued down the road for almost an hour before he figured out no one was behind him.

We spent an hour or so waiting for the support truck at an old, old motel in the middle of nowhere with a spring, swimming pool, full kitchen, guest quarters. After that it was a beeline for Death Valley about 20 miles away. I was really comfortable doing 30-35 mph, but Del, an advanced trainer pulled up next to me after everyone stopped for a flat tire and said “follow me”. He picked it up to 40, 45, 50, 55, 60. We did this for a good 10 miles and when we stopped at the paved road to Badwater, he said “ that’s how you ride good dirt roads.” My confidence was at an all time high and I really appreciated Del taking me aside to do that.

After Badwater, we headed to Furnace Creek Resort for drinks, pool ( I won’t even begin to describe the antics grown men play in the pool), drinks, shower, drinks, and an awesome dinner. The photos are at the bar before dinner. Needless to say, dinner was a little rowdy, but we tried to behave ourselves. We all crashed about the same time.

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Friday

Next morning for breakfast, Shawn hitched a ride with Jim

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After a buffet breakfast, we packed up for the ride back to Rawhyde. We rode thru Wild Rose Canyon and then made a detour to Agueberry Point, which overlooks Death Valley. The dirt rode up was nothing I would have attempted previously, but today it felt like a walk in the park. My balance was good, my look ahead was good, my speed on the flats was good, my confidence was great. I was comfortable and could have ridden forever.

The view at the top was forever. We must have spent an hour up there, fooling around, taking photos, taking more photos, checking out the flowers and rattlesnake and enjoying the last few hours together.

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The ride back to Trona was extremely windy, gusty. As a road rider, it didn’t bother me much. We stopped at Trona for burgers and to change a tire. We arrived back at Rawhyde in time for showers, packing, see some off, dinner, and a conversation with Jim and a few others. He asked for our feed back and we gave it to him. A couple of suggestions, but all in all a well laid out, intensive and challenging CV Expedition.

A final word. It is rare that a man opens up his home and family to a group of strangers, much less motorcyclists. It is even more rare that this man is passionate about motorcycles. It is even more rare that this man wants to share his passion with others.

Jim and Steph are one of a kind in the motorcycle community as are the folks that surround them.

The trip may be over, but the journey is just beginning…..

Safe riding,

Bob

Medical update. When I got home on Saturday, my wife looked at my calf, shin and ankle and called my daughter over take a look. She is an emergency room nurse at Scottsdale Osborn. She suggested, after looking at all the swelling and purple bruising, an ultra sound for blood clots and x-rays for possible broken bone in my ankle. Good new, no blood clots or breaks. Bad news, I could hardly walk for three weeks and it was almost a month before I could ride agin.
 
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Alright Copper Canyon Expedition Explorers Class, put down your liquor and the porn, Papa Chuy is giving you your first Spanish language course and your only Tarahumara language instruction. These phrases are from "Sierra Tarahumara - Barrancas del Cobre" map published by International Map Co. of El Paso Texas; ISBN 0-937455-11-3. First English, then Spanish and finally the Tarahumara dialect. Please note that the Tarahumara is written to pronounce like Spanish "Se pronuncia como El Espanol." My sincere apologies rushes, I was unable to translate the English into Arkansasese!!!

Hello. Hola. Cuira.

Good-bye. Adios. Ariosiba.

Where are you going? ?Adon de va usted? ?Muje cume simi?

What are you doing? ?Que esta haciendo? ?Pirimi ola ati?

What is your name? ?Como se llama usted? ?Chumi rihue?

What does this cost? ?Cuanto cuesta? ?Chu quipo natiqui?

How do you say...? ?Como se dice...? ?Churiga ani...?

Singular: Sit down. Sientese. Asaga.

Plural: Sit down. Sientense. Muchiga.

Let's go. Vamonos. Maba.

Weather: It's hot. Hace mucho calor. Hue rata.

It's cold. Hace mucho frio. Hue ruluhua.

Yes. Si. Ayena.

No. No. Que tasi.

Are you hungry? ?Tiene usted hambre? ?Achami loche?

Yes, I'm hungry. Si, tengo hambre. Hue locheni.

a gift un regalo corima.

Thank you. Gracias. Natetaraba.

You're welcome. Por nada. Caroba.

pretty bonito semati

one uno bile

two dos ocua

three tres baquia

four cuatro nao

five cinco mali

six seis usani

seven siete quichao

eight ocho osanao

nine nueve quimacoy

ten diez macoy

This last phrase is one you only need to learn if you own a Generation One Yamaha FJR 1300; if you own a GenII, please do not even bother to waste your time learning this important sentence:

My motorcycle is very fast! Mi Motocicleta es muy rapido! In Tarahumara: Wowser, Hubba-Hubba, Gunny, +1 y Ai, Ai, Ai, Arriba. For Russ in Arkansasese: BOY HOWDY!!!

 
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Yeah, yeah,...

But the important stuff...

beer... cervesa?

tequila... tequila?

And the most importienta (sp?)

Bourbon...You can get it there, can't ya?

I don't wanna die down there...

Or should I BYOB?

:)

Thanks Don, but my plan is to stick with the group, and smile a lot.... :thumbsup:

Howdy I reckon!

BTW... FJRrider is just as much Arkie if not more than I...

He just lives in TX to avoid taxes I think... :dntknw:

:rolleyes:

 
Rushes, if there's a bourbon produced in Mexico, I'm not familiar with it. Probably best to BYOB, even though we'll be passing through Ciudad Chihuahua y Los Mochis; huge cities with discount stores.

 
Rushes, if there's a bourbon produced in Mexico, I'm not familiar with it. Probably best to BYOB, even though we'll be passing through Ciudad Chihuahua y Los Mochis; huge cities with discount stores.
That's the plan.

I'm messin with ya... :)

BTW... How big is that support truck?

 
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Outstanding Ride Report on Rawhyde Adventures Training Camp, Back Road Bob: You are all ready for Copper Canyon this November, we'll let you lead! You accomplished an incredible M/C riding trek!
That was a great RR! :thumbsup:

Thanks!
Some outstanding riding and pictures! A really fun read. Tough riding I wouldn't want to do without company and instruction.

 
Outstanding Ride Report on Rawhyde Adventures Training Camp, Back Road Bob: You are all ready for Copper Canyon this November, we'll let you lead! You accomplished an incredible M/C riding trek!
That was a great RR! :thumbsup:

Thanks!
Some outstanding riding and pictures! A really fun read. Tough riding I wouldn't want to do without company and instruction.
Miguel, I'm very glad Back Road Bob will be riding with us through Copper Canyon, he is a hell of a good guy. He almost died in a private plane crash a few years ago and will tackle almost anything!!!

 
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BTW... FJRrider is just as much Arkie if not more than I...He just lives in TX to avoid taxes I think... :dntknw:

:rolleyes:
I just live real close, I'm not actually a "Pure Blood Arkansawian" like Mr Rushes!

What we miss paying in State taxes we make up for in other taxes, funny how that works out!

 
Alright Copper Canyon Expedition Explorers Class, put down your liquor and the porn, Papa Chuy is giving you your first Spanish language course and your only Tarahumara language instruction. These phrases are from "Sierra Tarahumara - Barrancas del Cobre" map published by International Map Co. of El Paso Texas; ISBN 0-937455-11-3. First English, then Spanish and finally the Tarahumara dialect. Please note that the Tarahumara is written to pronounce like Spanish "Se pronuncia como El Espanol." My sincere apologies rushes, I was unable to translate the English into Arkansasese!!!
Hello. Hola. Cuira.

Good-bye. Adios. Ariosiba.

Where are you going? ?Adon de va usted? ?Muje cume simi?

What are you doing? ?Que esta haciendo? ?Pirimi ola ati?

What is your name? ?Como se llama usted? ?Chumi rihue?

What does this cost? ?Cuanto cuesta? ?Chu quipo natiqui?

How do you say...? ?Como se dice...? ?Churiga ani...?

Singular: Sit down. Sientese. Asaga.

Plural: Sit down. Sientense. Muchiga.

Let's go. Vamonos. Maba.

Weather: It's hot. Hace mucho calor. Hue rata.

It's cold. Hace mucho frio. Hue ruluhua.

Yes. Si. Ayena.

No. No. Que tasi.

Are you hungry? ?Tiene usted hambre? ?Achami loche?

Yes, I'm hungry. Si, tengo hambre. Hue locheni.

a gift un regalo corima.

Thank you. Gracias. Natetaraba.

You're welcome. Por nada. Caroba.

pretty bonito semati

one uno bile

two dos ocua

three tres baquia

four cuatro nao

five cinco mali

six seis usani

seven siete quichao

eight ocho osanao

nine nueve quimacoy

ten diez macoy

This last phrase is one you only need to learn if you own a Generation One Yamaha FJR 1300; if you own a GenII, please do not even bother to waste your time learning this important sentence:

My motorcycle is very fast! Mi Motocicleta es muy rapido! In Tarahumara: Wowser, Hubba-Hubba, Gunny, +1 y Ai, Ai, Ai, Arriba. For Russ in Arkansasese: BOY HOWDY!!!
Great! I will print out this post..and save my daughter the trouble of taking 4 years of HS Spanish. She will be so happy. :D

 
Outstanding Ride Report on Rawhyde Adventures Training Camp, Back Road Bob: You are all ready for Copper Canyon this November, we'll let you lead! You accomplished an incredible M/C riding trek!
That was a great RR! :thumbsup:

Thanks!
Some outstanding riding and pictures! A really fun read. Tough riding I wouldn't want to do without company and instruction.
Miguel, I'm very glad Back Road Bob will be riding with us through Copper Canyon, he is a hell of a good guy. He almost died in a private plane crash a few years ago and will tackle almost anything!!!

Papa Chuy,

This Backroad Bob would not be the Robert H. Miller who wrote "Backroad Bob's Dual Sporters and Thumper Humpers" that I am currently reading, would he?

 
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Outstanding Ride Report on Rawhyde Adventures Training Camp, Back Road Bob: You are all ready for Copper Canyon this November, we'll let you lead! You accomplished an incredible M/C riding trek!
That was a great RR! :thumbsup:

Thanks!
Some outstanding riding and pictures! A really fun read. Tough riding I wouldn't want to do without company and instruction.
Miguel, I'm very glad Back Road Bob will be riding with us through Copper Canyon, he is a hell of a good guy. He almost died in a private plane crash a few years ago and will tackle almost anything!!!

Papa Chuy,

This Backroad Bob would not be the Robert H. Miller who wrote "Backroad Bob's Dual Sporters and Thumper Humpers" that I am currently reading, would he?
AZ Beemers Back Road Bob is Robert Little. Really nice guy, even looks a lot like our own WheatonFJR and even has Mark's easy going personality. Not a real prick like you, I, Bustanut joker and rushes!

 
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Outstanding Ride Report on Rawhyde Adventures Training Camp, Back Road Bob: You are all ready for Copper Canyon this November, we'll let you lead! You accomplished an incredible M/C riding trek!
That was a great RR! :thumbsup:

Thanks!
Some outstanding riding and pictures! A really fun read. Tough riding I wouldn't want to do without company and instruction.
Miguel, I'm very glad Back Road Bob will be riding with us through Copper Canyon, he is a hell of a good guy. He almost died in a private plane crash a few years ago and will tackle almost anything!!!

Papa Chuy,

This Backroad Bob would not be the Robert H. Miller who wrote "Backroad Bob's Dual Sporters and Thumper Humpers" that I am currently reading, would he?
AZ Beemers Back Road Bob is Robert Little. Really nice guy, even looks a lot like our own WheatonFJR and even has Mark's easy going personality. Not a real prick like you, I, Bustanut joker and rushes!
Hey! Leave the drunk hillbilly outa that group... :trinibob:

 
AZ Beemers Back Road Bob is Robert Little. Really nice guy, even looks a lot like our own WheatonFJR and even has Mark's easy going personality. Not a real prick like you, I, Bustanut joker and rushes!
I'm absolutely offended! You and I are bigger pricks than all those little weanies. Don't put me in with that riff raff....

:drag:

 
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AZ Beemers Back Road Bob is Robert Little. Really nice guy, even looks a lot like our own WheatonFJR and even has Mark's easy going personality. Not a real prick like you, I, Bustanut joker and rushes!
Aw... I'm hurt :( I wanted to be first on that list..

Dik!

:jester:

 
Copper Canyon Class and Wheaties daughter: Here are thirty more phrases for you to learn, in addition to the first thirty I gave you (unless you own a dogs ass slow GEN II FJR and only need 29):

Excuse me./Pardon me. Perdone/Disculpe.

Can you tell me where... is? ?Puede usted decirme donde esta...?

More slowly, please. Mas despacio, por favor.

Can you write it down, please? ?Puede usted escribirio, por favor?

I don't understand. No comprendo/No entiendo. (ShinyPartsUp will be using this phrase a lot!)

I am on vacation. Estoy de vacaciones.

Two weeks. Dos semanas.

No, I don't have anything to declare. No, no tengo nada que declarar.

Yes, these are my bags. Si, estas son mis maletas.

I need to change money, please. Necesito cambiar dinero, por favor.

How much does it cost? ?Cuanto cuesta?

That's too expensive. Es muy caro. (It is always fun to barter in Mexico when buying souvenirs, never take the first price, but always keep it friendly!)

I'll give you... Le doy...

What is that? ?Que es eso?

Two cups of coffee, please. Dos cafes, por favor.

My room number is... Mi habitacion es la numero...

I am from the United States. Soy de los Estados Unidos.

I am single/married. Soy soltero/casado. (Remember Guys, for the purposes of this trip: Everybody is single! It's Mexico: Fiesta!)

What time is it? ?Que hora es?

Excuse me, can you take my picture, please? Disculpe, ?puede sacarme una foto, por favor? (Note: When taking a photo of a Mexican or Tarahumaran, ask permission first!)

I'd like to have breakfast. Me gustaria desayunar. (Note: Don't yell and scream this out, like johnny80s does!)

What drinks do you have? ?Que bebidas tienen?

I'd like orange juice. Deseo un jugo de naranja. (Note: OJ is served universally throughout Mexico and Guatemala, especially at breakfast/desayuno.)

The check, please. La cuenta, por favor.

Bring me a beer, please. Traigame una cerveza, por favor. (NOTE: THE MOST IMPORTANT PHRASE, when I see you mooks in El Paso, TX I'll make damn sure you know this!)

The food was delicious. La comida estaba deliciosa. (NOTE: Always compliment a Mexican for a meal; Mexico's a poor country, they take great pride in their fantastic foods!)

I'd like to see the menu. Me gustaria ver el menu.

What do you recommend? ?Que me recomienda usted? (NOTE: Papa Chuy always asks for their recommendation, as usually it will be a local delicacy, unique to the region!)

Do you accept credit cards? ?Aceptan tarjetas de credito? (NOTE: You will be amazed where they will now accept credit cards in Mexico, was not that way just ten years ago!)

And finally, and I hope to God nobody needs this one: I broke my foot. Me rompi el pie. (NOTE: Everybody rides at only 75% and we all come home unbroken - Muy Peligro!)

 
Copper Canyon Class and Wheaties daughter: Here are thirty more phrases for you to learn, in addition to the first thirty I gave you (unless you own a dogs ass slow GEN II FJR and only need 29):
Excuse me./Pardon me. Perdone/Disculpe.
Those are all good but what if you need a vise grips or a master link :blink:

Here's a list of Mexican Moto words.

 
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