How My Risk Equation Has Changed

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This is Hans working out his issues in the way he does, out here on the FJR Forum. I'm more of an inside-of-the-head guy on my decision making, but If it works for you, buddy, more power to ya.

Just keep in mind, Hans isn't trying to talk anybody else into anything, just laying out his thoughts, maybe to help clarify them in his own mind. But we all have different input for our decisions and we all go through our own process. I've been riding almost 50 years. A looong time. And I really looked forward to the day I'd get my own first motorcycle for a long time before that.

So my own chart, if I made one, would be much taller in the yellow (risk appetite) section, and the red section would be a lower percentage of the total. I guess I'm more tolerant of the risk than Hans--JB--is. I know he came into motorcycling much later in his life than I--or many of us--did. Maybe I'm more used to risk--or adrenaline, maybe I need it more in my makeup. Doesn't matter. I'm ok with the risk, not that my risk is less (although some of those right-side passes in your city commuting, Hans, uh, I wouldn't have made).

Anyhow, I'll keep riding. Hans' reasons for getting away from it are good ones, for him, and he's doing the right thing. For him. More time for whatever else will fill his time. Like painting. But Hans, just so you know, painting itself is not without its own risks. The list of artists who have committed suicide is pretty long, and includes some pretty well-known names, like Frida Kahlo and Vincent Van Gogh. And that's just suicide. Many others have starved, poked themselves in the eye with their brushes, or fallen off their stool while leaning to see around the easel at their subject. So be careful, Hans, in your painting and whatever else you do in your life, and the rest of you, be careful on your damn dangerous motorcycles. And don't pass on the right.

Actual photograph of an artist dangerously leaning off his stool.

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I've been riding on the street for 30 years, some of it commuting in Southern CA, so I understand the commuting risk. I've been down once, and I still remember how much it hurt. Maybe that's why I pick my spots to ride fast, and not so much as I used to. That being said, I hope that I can ride until I drop dead of something else. I completely understand your reasons for stopping riding, but hope that you come back to it someday....

All the best,

Greg

 
There's plenty of stuff I used to do that I don't do any more. Some of those things, I just don't have time for. Other things, I just grew out of. Some of those things, I loved doing and gave them up anyway, usually over time.

So, whether you build a graph to convince your friends, or you just cut out, if your ready to go, go. Have fun with whatever you do next.

 
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So, whether you build a graph to convince your friends, or you just cut out, if your ready to go, go.
Holy shit AJ.

I had typed a big long winded, well reasoned reply that no matter how I edited it (hey, it was Friday and my boss is out of town) it came across as mean spirited as ****. I think it was the line about being an attention whore.... anyway you managed to nail it in one sentence.

 
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Every once in a while, that douchebag has something to say that holds water.

It's rare...but it happens.

 
Hans, it's all good, and you have had other avenues of reward for some time now. I have not lost my appitite to ride, but I'm unable to do so right now being separated from my ride by about 2600 miles. I'll be back.

Oddly, this does raise the question in my mind, where is Puppychow, and would he want your bike?

Or has he preceeded you in this decision? Friday or not, I hope to see you express your art on the MC or in any other way that you decide.

 
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I had typed a big long winded, well reasoned reply that no matter how I edited it (hey, it was Friday and my boss is out of town) it came across as mean spirited as ****.

WTF? That never stops me.

I am with the Queen's Royal Subject here. Grow a set Hans! You're a fart smeller, but sometimes you think too much!

(It's still Friday here)

And I too was just thinking the other day......... Where's PuppyChow been? He's MIA.

 
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And I too was just thinking the other day......... Where's PuppyChow been? He's MIA.
Well, that's at least three of us. Missing his ride reports and enthusiasm.
+1, Gunny! That makes four of us, I miss seeing PuppyChow's ride reports too!

Every once in a while, that douchebag HotRodZilla has something to say that holds water.

It's rare...but it happens.
Gunny!
Double Gunny!

 
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Hans, I enjoyed corresponding with you a few years back, but I remember that some of your riding situations were already well above my own risk comfort level. Commuting in your neck of the woods seems almost suicidal. ATGATT can save one's sorry arse from road rash, but it can't do very much about T bone or head on impacts from 4 wheel vehicles, or adventures off a sharp drop off into rigid trees or boulders.

We have a lot of situations around here that can be uncomfortable. Duking it out in the midst of wall to wall tailgating 40 ton trucks at 80 mph out on I-40 is one. Off camber switchbacks on shoulderless dropoffs is fun on the supermoto, but I'd never think about running one of the big bikes on those roads. Match the bike to the task, and recognize that some tasks are inherently not well suited to bikes.

There are some riding environments that aren't worth venturing into. You appear to have identified one of them.

I wish you the best. I'm sorry to see you go, but its good to go on your own terms. Good luck!

 
Hans, it's all good, and you have had other avenues of reward for some time now. I have not lost my appitite to ride, but I'm unable to do so right now being separated from my ride by about 2600 miles. I'll be back.

Oddly, this does raise the question in my mind, where is Puppychow, and would he want your bike?

Or has he preceeded you in this decision? Friday or not, I hope to see you express your art on the MC or in any other way that you decide.
Sam's around. I talk to him by text and on Facebook. He's still doing some physical therapy and has been released to again "hit the gym" so he's on-the-mend.

I don't think his bike is back together yet. I'll find out at Ty's brunch tomorrow.

And Han's, this is all a personal decision. There is no wrong choice, you are responsible for yourself and your family (At least for Fang, the kids are pretty much out on their own now).

For me, I'd miss riding and the wonderful experiences I have and friends I meet. Your interests and fulfillment are obviously in other arenas. There's no need to justify anything to anyone else.....it's what's inside you or what motivates you that counts. If the possibilites of sudden catastrophic failure loom large in your reasoning...the decision is made. It would be unwise for you to choose to ride.

Godspeed in whatever you choose to do. You will be missed.

 
Oh great. Now I feel like the guy who wanders in the back door at his own wake, not dead after all, and listens to all the kind, heart-felt, but above all final words of good-bye from all his friends, including friends he didn’t even know he had. And of course now he can’t go in and announce that he’s not really dead, because then everyone will feel angry that they wasted their time coming to the wake, and embarrassed that they got all emotional in front of their buddies for a guy who’s not really dead after all. So thanks to you guys, I guess now I really have to sell my bike. Thanks a lot.

But all kidding aside [like that’s really gonna happen], thank you all for your advice and good wishes. I know the “grow a set” comments are in jest, but I think I’ve demonstrated my riding cojones (documentary evidence here). And that’s probably the problem: I feel like the battle-fatigued guy in the war movie who finally loses his nerve, grows paranoid, and refuses to go out on another patrol because he figures his number is up.

That fatigue accounts for my “risk appetite” going down. As for the inherent risk going up (i.e., my perception that it's getting more dangerous out there), I’m seeing way more distracted drivers, driving like drunks, not maintaining their lane position, accidentally changing lanes, randomly hitting their brakes. And that problem is compounded by more drivers on the road as we ease out of this recession, leading to more slowdowns and thus more frustration, leading to more aggression toward me when I move up between the cars to lane share. A couple months ago, for the first time in ~100K commute miles over the last approx. 8 years, a driver actually lunged across the white line in an apparent effort to hit me.

But I want my forum friends to know that I listen to and follow their advice. In the past when I have raised this issue of my riding fatigue, the overwhelming advice was to not sell the bike right away, but by all means to stop using it as a commute vehicle. That’s what I’m doing now: for the last few weeks I’ve been riding the bike only the 10 minutes to the commuter train station and back, thus taking the rush out of rush hour, which has led to a much more relaxed start and finish to my work day. So we’ll see how that goes. And in the meantime I’m gonna take a wait and see till spring-ish before deciding where I stand and what to do with the bike.

But! Much more important! What’s vexing me now! Is--How do I commemorate my next, 3,000th forum post…?!

 
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a driver actually lunged across the white line in an apparent effort to hit me.


I think it's getting worse out there too. A few times in the city I've had people come into my lane, all the way in my lane and headed in the wrong direction. That and my problem with accumulating speeding tickets was the reason to get back into dual sport riding.

I hate traffic!

 
But! Much more important! What’s vexing me now! Is--How do I commemorate my next, 3,000th forum post…?!
Commemorate by not posting your bike for sale and instead posting you will keep your bike for at least six months.

Your bike is now a recreational vehicle, as it should be, (my humble opinion) and soon when the nice weather returns, the Sierra Passes will be calling and you will be happy to have kept your bike.

 
No worries... with parking assist, braking assist, antilock, and antiskid, we're nearly there. Once Google's autonomous vehicle hits the market, things will be cool... then about 5 years later they'll outlaw bikes because they can't automate them.

 
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