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R.I.P. Our Motorcycling Friend
So, is the FBI investigating you too then?Only 5 are my biological's..... the other 3 were absorbed in the merger.
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So, is the FBI investigating you too then?Only 5 are my biological's..... the other 3 were absorbed in the merger.
Did you really expected anything else from the woman that lost her son and has no first hand knowledge about motorcycling? It is Friday and all, but you are surprising me here.As a father of eight children, I feel for her tragedy. A pity. Totally preventable. However.... she is totally in the wrong here.
and WHEN exactly do you have time to ride???? :lol:Only 5 are my biological's..... the other 3 were absorbed in the merger.So WC, is eight truly enough?
You are so missing the point.Did you really expected anything else from the woman that lost her son and has no first hand knowledge about motorcycling? It is Friday and all, but you are surprising me here.
With all due respect my fellow bald one, and i hope i can say this without it being closed for going political because i am not stating political comments, only my interpretation of her comments, i don't read it as her blaming the motorcycle. I read it as her blaming the government for not having laws that require a governor on the bike (I bet her car doesn't have one), not requiring bike shops to validate motorcycle licenses (I bet she doesn't have to show a drivers license when she buys a car), and allowing bike bike manufacturers to sell bikes that go over 120 mph (I bet her car does).You are so missing the point.Did you really expected anything else from the woman that lost her son and has no first hand knowledge about motorcycling? It is Friday and all, but you are surprising me here.
I pray for the mom that she will in time understand what really happened.... her son made a very bad decision for just a few seconds... game over.
In the end, the mother is reaching for anything to make it not her son's fault that he is dead. Her actions are normal. No one wants to think of a loved one like that. Unfortunately she has decided that his actions were all sound and it was the motorcycle that was the problem. That has started her on a "crusade" to ruin something we all love by trying to get government to legislate stupidity out of society.
Grief does a fine job of blinding people from the truth.... obviously, its the motorcycle's fault. It has a brain of its own and made him go that fast and then turn his head to look back at friends.
I'll bet her car doesn't have one either.... but my motorcycle does.I read it as her blaming the government for not having laws that require a governor on the bike (I bet her car doesn't have one)
Precisely.I agree that she is looking to find fault in every place except for the very place where the fault lies.
This part hit me especially hard. When I was out and about buying my gear before my MSF course, Aurora Suzuki in Seattle was one of the places we stopped. There on the showroom was one of only two Suzuki DL650 V-Strom's available in the state. The salesman walks over and sees me eyeing off the bike and assessing whether it was worth it. He then pushes to sell the bike to me, without asking what I'm looking for or whether I have my license - and when I explicitly stated I didn't have my license he said something along the lines of, "Don't worry about that, you can deal with that later." That salesman is why I refuse to buy anything from the store (I get service there because it's close but go elsewhere for parts).“When I started to look into all of the facts, I found myself shocked and bewildered,” Martin said. “Max did not have a motorcycle endorsement on his license. When I realized it was Texas law that you have to have one to ride a bike, I wondered why it had not been enforced the day he bought the bike. I called the dealership and asked them about it. The salesman informed me that although it was state law, it was not the responsibility of the dealership to check.”
Have to agree with Big Sky on this, my 30-something Daughter started riding, and she did MSF, she read the books, we did the parking lot practice, and she followed me around on the streets until she couldn't take it any more and took off on her own. Still I would be devastated if any thing happened to her, she is the youngest and still our baby girl, but blame the motorcycle..........I don't think so, we are responsible, we knew exactly what we where doing.Typical response from a grieving and guilt-ridden parent - it's about atonement.
I have a 23-year-old son who I introduced to motorcycles. That is a very difficult choice to make (my brother is getting two of his sons started now). I have over and over ad nauseum stressed safety. That's all we can do. The potential joy is worth the potential risk, IMO.
I do feel terribly for her. But it wasn't the machine, it was the operator.
That's why we need warning labels on paperclips. Qtips should be classified as weapons of mass destruction.After reading all of that, the primary thought in my mind is.....
"Holy shit, warchild fathered 8 kids!"
I'm not sure what to say about the article. Anything, in the wrong hands, can be deadly. I watched someone die because of misuse of a paper clip (swallowed it, perforated his small bowel, lead to peritonitis because he delayed seeking help, sepsis, then death). It returns back to user error. I couldn't argue against more education on safety before hopping on any scoot, regardless of size.
My 2 cents.
Exactly.With all due respect my fellow bald one, and i hope i can say this without it being closed for going political because i am not stating political comments, only my interpretation of her comments, i don't read it as her blaming the motorcycle. I read it as her blaming the government for not having laws that require a governor on the bike (I bet her car doesn't have one), not requiring bike shops to validate motorcycle licenses (I bet she doesn't have to show a drivers license when she buys a car), and allowing bike bike manufacturers to sell bikes that go over 120 mph (I bet her car does).You are so missing the point.Did you really expected anything else from the woman that lost her son and has no first hand knowledge about motorcycling? It is Friday and all, but you are surprising me here.
I pray for the mom that she will in time understand what really happened.... her son made a very bad decision for just a few seconds... game over.
In the end, the mother is reaching for anything to make it not her son's fault that he is dead. Her actions are normal. No one wants to think of a loved one like that. Unfortunately she has decided that his actions were all sound and it was the motorcycle that was the problem. That has started her on a "crusade" to ruin something we all love by trying to get government to legislate stupidity out of society.
Grief does a fine job of blinding people from the truth.... obviously, its the motorcycle's fault. It has a brain of its own and made him go that fast and then turn his head to look back at friends.
I agree that she is looking to find fault in every place except for the very place where the fault lies.
We all knew no-one would "do you" eight times :lol:Only 5 are my biological's..... the other 3 were absorbed in the merger.
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