Montana legislators mull 85 mph speed limit

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Big Sky Country could soon be the land of high speeds.


Four Montana lawmakers have proposed raising the state’s maximum speed limit from 75 mph to 80 or 85 mph and are working on bills to introduce during next year’s legislative session, the Missoulian reports.

State Senator Scott Sales of Bozeman, who favors an 85 mph limit, told the newspaper he’s been working across the state in the Bakken oil fields near the North Dakota border and that the higher limit would shave an hour off his 400-plus mile trip.

State Representative Mike Miller adds that neighboring states with similarly wide open stretches of road have increased their limits to 80 mph with apparent success.

“Utah, Wyoming and Idaho have all done it. Nevada is looking at it, too. I didn’t see any problems in the other states,” Miller said.

Texas currently boasts the nation’s highest speed limit of 85 mph on a stretch of State Highway 130 between San Antonio and Austin.

Prior to the imposition of a national 55 mph limit in 1974, and again from 1995-1998, many of Montana’s roads had no numerical speed limit during the day, with signs suggesting drivers maintain a “reasonable and prudent” speed. However, a 1998 state supreme court decision ruled that this description was too vague and violated the due process protections of the state constitution, which led to the establishment of a 75 mph speed limit in the following year.

However, even in the days of the national limit, most violators were issued a fine of just $5 for wasting natural resources in order to keep the state in compliance with federal law, and today’s fines are still among the lowest in the nation.

Montana Highway Patrol Col. Tom Butler told the Missoulian that he couldn’t comment on the bills until he's seen them, but says driving faster reduces reaction time and makes stopping more difficult.
 
Gee thought in Montana it was 85 already.
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I'm in the highway business, and when Montana put in the "safe speed" as the speed limit, this joke made the rounds:

Guy buys a [insert fast car name here] and asks to pick it up in Butte. Starts driving east at 100 mph and faster. Gets pulled over, and cop issues the $5 fine. Man says, "Here's a twenty. Radio the next three counties and tell them I'm pre-paid."

 
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We regularly run 80-85 MPH on the Montana Interstates and 75-80 on most US and State highways that are posted at 70. We've never so much as got a hard look from a LEO except once in my truck. I passed a Trooper doing 78 (GPS speed) in a 75 zone. He was running about 65 and looking for people running up on him from behind. When I got along side of his car he hit his amber overhead lights and wagged his finger at Spousal Unit in the passenger seat. I slowed to 75 for a few miles.

I suspect that if the limit goes up to 85, then there will be little tolerance for anything over 85. I've heard that the Texas Highway Patrol is writing up folks for speeds very little over the the 85 speed limit. Is that the case Texans?

 
Montana Highway Patrol Col. Tom Butler told the Missoulian that he couldn’t comment on the bills until he's seen them, but says driving faster reduces reaction time and makes stopping more difficult.
Disagree with him on the 'driving faster reduces reaction time' part. A persons 'reaction time' stays the same no matter the speed- it is human nature (but can vary a little bit person to person.) The difference that I think he is after is the distance covered in that amount of reaction time is going to be increased. Greater the speed = greater the distance traveled before a reaction takes place. Reaction time is seeing the problem, thinking about the problem, deciding on a course of action, send 'oh snap' signals to muscles, move muscles. I think he just mis-spoke a bit on that one. 80 MPH has been in Utah for a bit now, have not heard anything about an increase or decrease in crashes. I am sure the crashes are more severe and over time fatalities will go up. If the roads are up to par, I say go for it.

 
Not to worry. Here in California we will maintain the 55 MPH speed limit for trucks and vehicles with trailers no matter what common sense or other States are doing.

If it were up to California, your speedometer would still top out at 85. (remember those good times?)

 
Since this is kinda a political subject and the power thereof, I will hold back my thoughts :)

State Senator Scott Sales says he spent seven months working in the Bakken oil patch, driving back and forth to Bozeman regularly. "If I could drive 85 mph on the interstate, it would save an hour," says Sales. "Eighty-five would be fine with me."

 
Since this is kinda a political subject and the power thereof, I will hold back my thoughts
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State Senator Scott Sales says he spent seven months working in the Bakken oil patch, driving back and forth to Bozeman regularly. "If I could drive 85 mph on the interstate, it would save an hour," says Sales. "Eighty-five would be fine with me."
To save an hour by driving 10 mph faster would mean he is going over 600 miles. That's quite a commute.

 
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Since this is kinda a political subject and the power thereof, I will hold back my thoughts
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State Senator Scott Sales says he spent seven months working in the Bakken oil patch, driving back and forth to Bozeman regularly. "If I could drive 85 mph on the interstate, it would save an hour," says Sales. "Eighty-five would be fine with me."
To save an hour by driving 10 mph faster would mean he is going over 600 miles. That's quite a commute.
Williston is in the middle of that oil patch and is a little over 900 miles round trip from Bozeman. Might even save an hour and a half. ;)

 
I loved Montana when the speed limit for day time was careful and prudent. Night time was 65 and enforced.

Then Uncle Sam said, "If you don't have a day time speed limit, we will take your government money away". So Montana enacted a day time speed limit with a $5.00 fine that would not go on your driving record.

It use to cost me $25.00 to cross the state. Worked for me but my friend, Jack Nelson who was a highway patrolman, hated it with a passion.

 
Don't y'all know that FJR fuel mileage plummets at anything over 80...
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...might be time to invest in some auxiliary capacity!

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Isn't Montana the state not to drive in past dark, as there are too many tavern patrons on the road?

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Not to worry. Here in California we will maintain the 55 MPH speed limit for trucks and vehicles with trailers no matter what common sense or other States are doing.If it were up to California, your speedometer would still top out at 85. (remember those good times?)
I got popped for going over the 55mph limit towing the bushtec with the FJR. The guy had no sense of humor but I did get off with a stern warning.

 
Isn't Montana the state not to drive in past dark, as there are too many tavern patrons on the road?
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No more than our fair share of drunks on the road..... we are too easy on them for sure, but it is the white tails, mule deer, antelope, cattle, elk, buffalo and moose you need to look out for. Montana is third in the list for most animal strikes per year. Acccording to State Farm your chances of hitting a critter is 1 in 75 in MT. (WV is #1- 1 in 39 and PA is #2- 1 in 71). Last year a couple hit and killed four buffalo about 1/2 mile from our place. They were in a Jeep Liberty and were unharmed. Cost them $10,000 to the rancher who owned the animals. We are a free range area, you hit it you pay for it but the owner gets to keep the animal. The rancher had those animals at a processor within a couple of hours and probably made another $6-8,000 on the meat.

 
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