My sons' new "grocery game"

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But when you involve the adults that is where the problem lies. What if the person was in line at a store and became embaresed and he/she stuttered and proveked an attack than what ? Where is the fun in that? What if a person is an epliletic and the embarssment caused a seizeour now you have a medical emergency whee is the fun? And last but surely not the last, how about a bi polar person and forgot their medication, and they chose to retaliate and get a gun and shoot you.--------POSSIBLE YES, LIKELY, NO.

My point is this kind of behaviour is not taught in our schools and should not be taught or supportes at home what kind of a parent are you than?-------

Do you teach a regular school or at a special school?

Remember it is funny, until it happens to you..---------

If it happened to me personally getting stuff put in my basket and caught the little buggers, I'd probably try and embarass the crap out of 'em via their parents or getting the store security just for fun. If I were in a store and my kids did it (assuming I was unaware of their actions), and someone went postal, which is where I think you were heading with this, then I would be first to physically shield them from any harm as any good parent would. See below....

Yes I have a son and he a respected fine young man in society and where he works and he and his wife will not raise their son to be a prankster.-------

I am a parent of three children, my oldest son, 12, has learning disabilites, as well as ADHD and bi-polar. Would I ever encourage such a prank, no. Do I teach them respect, discipline, and integrity(admitting they ****** up and own the consequences of their actions), absolutely. If they had done it without my knowledge and were subsequently caught what would I do? First, I'd tell them that they were WRONG in doing so. Second, they would have to deal with whatever consequences came out of it. Third, I'd explain to them WHY it was wrong and the potential possibilities of what could happen, as you had mentioned.

Now, for the meat and potatos (potatoes, depending on which Quayle version you subscribe to)...... had I been there, and had I known in advance they were going to play this little game, I would have been the one to say yes, it sounds funny, but explain to them some of the possibilities of their actions, though perhaps as not as grotesquely as you propose. I'd be the one who got to pick who the "victim" would be and I would help them decide what to put in the carriage. I'd also be responsible for whatever happened afterwards. The key is in getting caught or not. If you can't prove it, I damn sure didn't do it.

OK, this is all I can muster for now, getting late at 0130 and I'm still stuck at work since 9 this morning, and still have a good hour left, so I'm wrapping up here. If you want more ********, inquiring minds want to know, post up and I'll come back tomorrow and finish where I left off. But to take a quote from a very popular movie, "Lighten up, Francis".
 
Scott -

The proof's in the puddin' If this is your biggest problem in life, you're doing great! Have they thought yet about pushing people's carts an aisle or two over, then watching them search for their stuff? Mine did and we laughed without saying a thing, we just started moving their stuff around the house.

My kids ask me about pranks we'd pull as kids and I have to keep reminding them that if they got caught doing the same stuff, they'd be in jail. Actually, my youngest starts college next week and they both know that Dad's crazier than either of them.

 
****, I gotta learn to post properly......and I ain't even drinkin'........fook.
Dammit, that **** ain't funny. I damn-near had a seizure and I went blind in one eye. I totally lost control and I'm pretty sure I shot somebody. I can't tell for sure, if I did, the corpse is on my now-blind side. Anyway, post right, dammit! Some may find that amusing, but I'm an adult! See how funny that **** would be if you were the one that had to read it.

 
My most humble apologies to all for the poor posting skills, will try and get my act together. That'll happen to ya though after 14 hours of "gruelling" work.....

Now, let's get back on topic, shall we? Are we, as parents, who are attempting to teach our children to be productive, law-abiding citizens, being somewhat hippocritical when we tell our children not to do stuff like this but then regale the stories of "back when I was your age...." ? I think not. I think that kids who do silly things are being just that, silly kids. There is no intent on harming anyone, no one is doing anything malicious. This little prank specifically just would not garner the type of reaction implied by weekend rider IMO. It is important for me, as parent, to teach my kids boundaries of what is acceptable and what is not. Of course there will always be grey areas, but experience must teach them that. When one decides to do something, good or bad,it is their responsibilty to accept whatever consequence it may bring. Now for the stupid, insane kid that pointed the toy gun at a uniformed please officer, well that was just plain stupid. I thank god that you had, as you said, the experience and skilled training to be able to discern in a split second, the threat level and take appropriate action, which was not to shoot the Darwin- Award nominee. That could've ruined your life, and his, as well as both families.

Ok, what's next on the agenda?

 
I think is incredibly hypocritical when people of "our generation", meaning those of us that grew up in the '60's and '70's, feel compelled to become tight assed prohibitionists about all things. Like partying, drinking, experimenting with recreational drugs, etc. You know, all those horrible things that the vast majority of us of that generation excelled at in our youths.

I'm not saying that I encourag(ed) my kids to do any of that kind of thing. And I certainly never regaled them with tales of what a party animal their old man was. But we did have honest discussions about it and when the right and wrong times might be.

The majority of the "zero tolerance" crap I see being bandied about is by people that you know partook. Never inhaled my ***. <_< Hypocrites.

Two years ago, my best high jumper, one of the nicest, well mannered kids you'd ever meet, was thrown off the HS track team for his entire his senior year on the "zero tolerance" rule because someone sent an email to the school superintendent with a link to a facebook page that showed him at an off-school premises party with a beer in his hand. This was a 2 time state champion that had a good possibility of High Jumping at the D1 level in college. Out the window. Way to go school board... Obviously, the whole facebook picture of drinking thing was a big mistake, but it wasn't his facebook account, it was someone else's and I don't think he knew the picture was even there.

One particular law that really chaps my *** is the drinking age, and it's rigid enforcement. I have an idea, let's let kids get their drivers licenses for a couple of years and withhold alcohol from them. Then when they turn 21 and have moved off to college, away from the guidance of their parents, and they've now been driving for a grand total of 5 years, we'll just set them loose. Great thinking. I have seen first hand what goes on at American Universities and it isn't pretty. ~90% of the population binge drinks at least occasionally.

Does anyone suppose that if there were no minimum drinking age there might be less of a thrill at getting completely ****-faced every time you picked up a bottle?

Anyone that thinks a harmless prank like placing an unwanted item in someone else's carriage is a horrible crime on humanity indicating the downfall of a child's development is just another version of the above hypocrisy, IMO, and needs to get a clue.

 
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I think is incredibly hypocritical when people of "our generation", meaning those of us that grew up in the '60's and '70's, feel compelled to become tight assed prohibitionists about all things. Like partying, drinking, experimenting with recreational drugs, etc. You know, all those horrible things that the vast majority of us of that generation excelled at in our youths.
I'm not saying that I encourag(ed) my kids to do any of that kind of thing. And I certainly never regaled them with tales of what a party animal their old man was. But we did have honest discussions about it and when the right and wrong times might be.

The majority of the "zero tolerance" crap I see being bandied about is by people that you know partook. Never inhaled my ***. <_< Hypocrites.

Two years ago, my best high jumper, one of the nicest, well mannered kids you'd ever meet, was thrown off the HS track team for his entire his senior year on the "zero tolerance" rule because someone sent an email to the school superintendent with a link to a facebook page that showed him at an off-school premises party with a beer in his hand. This was a 2 time state champion that had a good possibility of High Jumping at the D1 level in college. Out the window. Way to go school board... Obviously, the whole facebook picture of drinking thing was a big mistake, but it wasn't his facebook account, it was someone else's and I don't think he knew the picture was even there.

One particular law that really chaps my *** is the drinking age, and it's rigid enforcement. I have an idea, let's let kids get their drivers licenses for a couple of years and withhold alcohol from them. Then when they turn 21 and have moved off to college, away from the guidance of their parents, and they've now been driving for a grand total of 5 years, we'll just set them loose. Great thinking. I have seen first hand what goes on at American Universities and it isn't pretty. ~90% of the population binge drinks at least occasionally.

Does anyone suppose that if there were no minimum drinking age there might be less of a thrill at getting completely ****-faced every time you picked up a bottle?

Anyone that thinks a harmless prank like placing an unwanted item in someone else's carriage is a horrible crime on humanity indicating the downfall of a child's development is just another version of the above hypocrisy, IMO, and needs to get a clue.
Well Fred before I agree that it was stupid to kick the poor kid off the school track team let me say that the fact that he didnt know about the pics does not absolve him from the consequences of the behaviors that the image caught. As for the drinking age debate I would rather stay out of that, I just dont know how to solve that problem. That said, what have we come to in our public schools? I am amazed what I get calls for on my 2 boys! And they are ******* angels compared to me!

 
I did not intend to say that it absolved him, only that it wasn't like he was dumb ******* just asking for trouble. He knew he was guilty, and he knew the consequences in advance and still risked it. It doesn't make it any less hypocritical to ruin his life for something we ALL did earlier.

 
what have we come to in our public schools? I am amazed what I get calls for on my 2 boys! And they are ******* angels compared to me!
This is another big debate. It's amazing the things that happen and it's either an anthill turned into a mountain from one side or it's the parents screamin (Not my kid!) or the kid being a real big problem and the schools hands are tied to do anything because of the new rules. I could go on and on . . . .

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That is funny. Don't have boys but I'm sure I can get my girls to play along! They've been known to do similar pranks. Makes me proud!!

 
Pony you being in law enforcement I thought you were a responsible officer of the law and valued high standards hmmmm, makes me wonder
I like jokes just as much as the next person, but where is the limit?

JUst remember If I saw your kid do that to me I would knock him out right there Oh I was just waving my hand and he walked into it.

Get the picture. Now it is not a joke or funny anymore.

And if he did this to a person that is a senior citizen he can have charges brought against him , elder abuse , so is the joke worth it?

How about teaching respect imstead of mischief

I work around 11,000 kids and have for the last 30 years
Sounds like you need a little anger managment training!! You'd smack a kid for putting somthing in your shopping cart, dude chill out! I dont see Pony condoning his kids but BFD, there having a little harmless fun. I guess the elderly just drop off like flys when they find a pack of Trojens in the shopping cart!? What are you talking about. Sounds like your the problem, how many WEDGYS did you recieve as a kid? Lighten up!

 
JUst remember If I saw your kid do that to me I would knock him out right there
Sure you would. We all know you wouldn't but, just in case?

if you did, don't be surprised when you find yourself flat on the ground with some kid's father kicking the living daylights out of you.

How about teaching respect imstead of mischief
Wha...? "Respect"? Aren't you the guy who just said you'd "knock him out right there..." Let me check....Yup! That was you!

I work around 11,000 kids and have for the last 30 years
And how many of them have you "knocked out"?

 
JUst remember If I saw your kid do that to me I would knock him out right there
Sure you would. We all know you wouldn't but, just in case?

if you did, don't be surprised when you find yourself flat on the ground with some kid's father kicking the living daylights out of you.
Nah. I'd rather call the cops and have him sent up the river for a long time, so he couldn't knock more kids around.

I'm figuring assault of a minor carries a pretty hefty jail sentence.

Last time I checked, putting something in someone else's shopping carriage isn't a crime.

;)

 
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Rats!!

I wish we were smart enough to think of the "stuff in the cart" prank. All we had was the call to the local drug store asking if they had "Prince Albert in a Can"... and you know how that one goes. Well, there was the call to the bowling alley (while we were there on a pay phone at the time) asking them to page Mr. Jack Meoff.... Boys will be boys you know.

Oh well, I have basically recovered now that I'm in my late 40's.

 
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