Power Distribution Questions

[ionbeam]

Tan/Yellow -- windshield motor (top left, partly cut off, oops!)

Red -- from the backup fuse; connected directly to the voltage regulator, not switched

Tan/Red -- neutral light, neutral switch, starter cut-off relay; ground when in neutral

Lt Blue -- Windshield up/down switch on handlebar -- DOWN when grounded

Lt Green -- Windshield up/down switch on handlebar -- UP when grounded

Red/Black -- To jumper

Black/Red -- To jumper

Black -- Jumper wire; attaches RB to BR wires

Black -- Batt ground

Alan

 

[sparky3008]

ion is now positively charged it is an attractant

:blush2:

And your point is?

Nevermind duh your name!!!

 

[ionbeam]

Nevermind duh your name!!!

Aye, and 'tis a name earned from an Ion Implantation company I help start back in the late 70's.

Alan

a.k.a. Ionbeam

 

[SpeedFreak]

Randy / MixedupMitch;

I am about to tackle this solution. I have re-read this post a few times but still need some help.

This is my understanding of the wires coming into the Blue Sea, Can you tell what the two are that I am asking about and correct me if I am wrong on the rest?

thanks

-=SF=-

 

[bramfrank]

You have it all correct. The extra wires on the right are for an unimplemented power load - note, no fuse in the corresponding fuse socket next to the extra power lead.

 

[Randy]

Can't speak for Mitch as this is his pic. I think mine is a bit different as I think (I'm on the road and won't be back for a few days) I have 1 more negative lead wired on the power block than positive leads.

I'm pretty sure this is how I have it:

* + from the battery goes directly to the 87 slot in the relay

* the 30 slot in the relay goes to the main + on the power block

* - from the battery goes directly to the main - on the power block

* a negative lead on the power block goes to the 86 slot in the relay (hence, the extra - lead on the power block)

* the switched power lead (I used the rear running light) goes to the 85 slot in the relay

I used this as a guide https://www.canyonchasers.net/shop/generic/...agram-final.jpg

 

[SpeedFreak]

Thanks Guy's I should be in good shape. If not You'll be seeing more posts!

thanks

-=SF=-

Can't speak for Mitch as this is his pic. I think mine is a bit different as I think (I'm on the road and won't be back for a few days) I have 1 more negative lead wired on the power block than positive leads.I'm pretty sure this is how I have it:

* + from the battery goes directly to the 87 slot in the relay

* the 30 slot in the relay goes to the main + on the power block

* - from the battery goes directly to the main - on the power block

* a negative lead on the power block goes to the 86 slot in the relay (hence, the extra - lead on the power block)

* the switched power lead (I used the rear running light) goes to the 85 slot in the relay

I used this as a guide https://www.canyonchasers.net/shop/generic/...agram-final.jpg

 

[Randy]

happy to help. was able to make it home earlier than expected and verified that my setup is different in that I do have 1 more slot wired on the - side than the + side due to 1 of the - going to the relay.

 

[SpeedFreak]

happy to help. was able to make it home earlier than expected and verified that my setup is different in that I do have 1 more slot wired on the - side than the + side due to 1 of the - going to the relay.

Well I'm almost there, only blew 1 15amp fuse so far! (Stupid mistake)

Where did you get you 12 volts running power from?

Would you happen to have a picture of it?

thanks

-=SF=-

 

[Groo]

Where did you get you 12 volts running power from?-=SF=-

The battery? :huh:

 

[SpeedFreak]

Where did you get you 12 volts running power from?

-=SF=-

The battery? :huh:

No I meant the rear running light for pin 86 of the relay, what color wire is it?

-=SF=-

 

[Randy]

Blue

 

[SpeedFreak]

Well another sucessfull endevor thanks to all you fine forum members!

It took me quite some time but worth it. I put the BlueSea PDB unit under the riders seat (Thank-You Ionbeam for your gracious donation!), Also put the relay next to it, installed my autocom under the pillion seat.

Next week heated grips, and a shot at the CCS-100 crusie control, GPS and mp3 player and I should be done for quite some time.

Thank you all for your help.

-=SF=-

 

[Randy]

Congrats! Glad it worked out well for you. You sure you don't want to share the story behind the blown 15a fuse?

 

[SpeedFreak]

Blue

well...............

I hooked up the wiring to the battery to power up the pdb. Yep everything working as expected. Then I thought I would re-route the positive wire on the pdb to make it look better. The wire also has the 30amp in-line fuse. So I tried to re-route the wire through the back of the chassis and

BOOM!! sparks everywhere. As soon as it happened I felt like an *****. It only took out the 30amp fuse like it should have and that was it. I can't even call it a learning lesson becasue had I just took 2 seconds to think about what I was doing it would have been obvious that the fuse would have blown.

Oh well no harm!

-=SF=-

 

[evilmedic13]

REALLY stupid question here,why did it spark? Did it complete the circuit ie: ground to the frame/chassis? I'm doing my install today in same location and am just curious.Also, did you solder the connection to the rear running light as in RANDY's diagram? The last time I touched anything w/ electronics I was 800 ft underwater and promised myself i would forget EVERYTHING(oops) and seem to have done an excellent job at that! I've been reading these posts over and over to the point of nausea uke: and still have some questions, other than the one's posted above,that is :crazy:

1) Is it okay to just run ground from battery to relay? or do I have to run it from batt>pdb>relay?

2)is the blue wire lp running light or tail light

This one's a little off this subject,but still in the scope

3) Should i in-line fuse my powerlet in front?,it's only for IPOD and cell charger

thanks to anybody that can help

 

[Randy]

REALLY stupid question here,why did it spark? Did it complete the circuit ie: ground to the frame/chassis? I'm doing my install today in same location and am just curious.Also, did you solder the connection to the rear running light as in RANDY's diagram? The last time I touched anything w/ electronics I was 800 ft underwater and promised myself i would forget EVERYTHING(oops) and seem to have done an excellent job at that! I've been reading these posts over and over to the point of nausea uke: and still have some questions, other than the one's posted above,that is :crazy: 1) Is it okay to just run ground from battery to relay? or do I have to run it from batt>pdb>relay?

2)is the blue wire lp running light or tail light

This one's a little off this subject,but still in the scope

3) Should i in-line fuse my powerlet in front?,it's only for IPOD and cell charger

thanks to anybody that can help

Not an expert, but, saying what i did/would do

1 - If you just run it to the relay, then you're not providing a common ground for your other farkles that you would plug into the pdb. This is assuming you use a 4-blade relay like I did. I think there are other relays with more blades, but, I don't know if one of those other relays provides the ability to 'forward' the negative to the pdb from the relay.

2 - I don't know what lp means, but, the blue wire that I tapped into is the running light (not the brake light)

3 - Will it go through the pdb or straight from the battery? If from the pdb, it's a bit of a 'belt and suspenders' type of protection, but, then again, $1.99 for an inline fuse vs. many more $$$ for the ipod or cell. Don't know if that's a realistic argument, but, I would put one on (since it comes with one anyway, right)?

 

[qmotion]

After a couple hours of reading all 5 pages of this post over and over, I realized I'm going to need help with my 2006 FJR's electrical system. I just ordered the Power Plate from www.electricalconnection.com then I started doing all the reading. Looks like I should have ordered the Blueseas distrubtion block instead. Is it possible to use both?

Let me start with what all is going to be installed on my FJR: J&M cb/intercom/audio controller, Garmin 2820 navigation, Escort 8500 radar detector, Binder radar laser jammer, PHID lights, Mottolights, Steibel magnum horns, Corbin heated seats and a Scorpio alarm.

The Blueseas unit has connections for 6 fuses. They have another one that has connections for 12 fuses but it's longer. The Power Plate has 6 terminals and I believe it includes a relay.

Looks like I'm going to have to visit Randy and Mitch to try and figure this out. Would it be best that I order the 12 fuse distribution block or would that not fit under my rear seat?

Randy and Mitch, keep in mind I do live in PA, Philadelphia to be exact. I haven't gotten the FJR-AE yet but I'm trying to do all the ground work for setting up my farkles.

 

[pawtracks]

I have an 05 so the under seat design may vary.

I have both the 12 and the 6 outlet bluesea units.

The 12 will fit with a little modification.

The 6 fits fine in several places.

I posted the dimensions of both units in this thread

I will get by with a 6.

If there was a little more room a 12 would be nice especially with the list of things you want to power up.

 

[Randy]

After a couple hours of reading all 5 pages of this post over and over, I realized I'm going to need help with my 2006 FJR's electrical system. I just ordered the Power Plate from www.electricalconnection.com then I started doing all the reading. Looks like I should have ordered the Blueseas distrubtion block instead. Is it possible to use both?
Let me start with what all is going to be installed on my FJR: J&M cb/intercom/audio controller, Garmin 2820 navigation, Escort 8500 radar detector, Binder radar laser jammer, PHID lights, Mottolights, Steibel magnum horns, Corbin heated seats and a Scorpio alarm.

The Blueseas unit has connections for 6 fuses. They have another one that has connections for 12 fuses but it's longer. The Power Plate has 6 terminals and I believe it includes a relay.

Looks like I'm going to have to visit Randy and Mitch to try and figure this out. Would it be best that I order the 12 fuse distribution block or would that not fit under my rear seat?

Randy and Mitch, keep in mind I do live in PA, Philadelphia to be exact. I haven't gotten the FJR-AE yet but I'm trying to do all the ground work for setting up my farkles.

Don't know if I'll get lynched by the electronic whizzes 'round here, but, with the 2 very low draw items (Garmin, Escort), you might be able to put them on 1 circuit??? Here's my thinking. 1 6-spot pdb in the front (Garmin/Escort, Binder, PHID, Motolights, horns) and 1 6-spot pdb in the back (Corbin, Scorpio, future farkles). For the front one - yes, I know only listed 5 items. Although there are 6 slots on the Blue Seas box, you take up an extra '-' terminal when you run a switched pdb similar to the diagram at the bottom of my very first post in this thread. Perhaps you could double up the '-' with one of the other items giving you the full 6 slots?

Anywho...I can swing by your place. I go to Wilmington pretty often and could stop by to show you what I did.