The Evil that is 13....

[SkooterG]

The 'Y' or 'E' may very well distinguish between a Cali model vs. 49 state model, however I have seen nothing to lead me to believe that there is anything but just one sequential numbering system in place.

Um... what part of having two VINs being identical except for E/Y and check digit did you miss?

Ummmm.... WTF?!?!?! I was responding directly to a response to one of my posts. You have a problem with that? Thanks for the attitude. Much appreciated.

Hello? This thing on? I don't mean to be hurting your feelings, but I've provided statements and evidence to the contrary of your theory more than once.

https://www.fjrforum.com/forum//index.php/topic/148990-the-evil-that-is-13/?p=1019449

https://www.fjrforum.com/forum//index.php/topic/148990-the-evil-that-is-13/?p=1024670

There are two #000014s in the wild. One (CA model) is on tour with the US version of the International Motorcycle Show. The other (49 state model) is parked 20 feet from me.

Sorry if that pisses you off so much.

Well, I have come to two conclusions:

1) You are correct.

2) You are an asshole.

 

[RaYzerman19]

FWIW, I've found that I can also eliminate the Ker-chunk! when shifting into 1st gear on my 1st Gen one of a few ways:

1) Start the bike in 1st gear (Doh!)

2) Start the bike in neutral but with the clutch pulled in and hold it in. Subsequently can shift into gear with no kerchunk.

3) After starting the bike in neutral with the clutch released, pull in the clutch and rev the engine up a few times quickly. This seems to break the clutch plates free from each other and allows no, or reduced, kerchunk when shifted into gear.

I generally will employ #1, but only with a warm engine to avoid the cold clutch's drag on the cold starting engine, but will then use #2 or #3 or just let it kerchunk.

4. Pull in the clutch to the handlebar and wait a few seconds, then shift. Maybe a little kerchunk when cold, but none when warmed up.

 

[Fred W]

FWIW, I've found that I can also eliminate the Ker-chunk! when shifting into 1st gear on my 1st Gen one of a few ways:

1) Start the bike in 1st gear (Doh!)

2) Start the bike in neutral but with the clutch pulled in and hold it in. Subsequently can shift into gear with no kerchunk.

3) After starting the bike in neutral with the clutch released, pull in the clutch and rev the engine up a few times quickly. This seems to break the clutch plates free from each other and allows no, or reduced, kerchunk when shifted into gear.

I generally will employ #1, but only with a warm engine to avoid the cold clutch's drag on the cold starting engine, but will then use #2 or #3 or just let it kerchunk.

4. Pull in the clutch to the handlebar and wait a few seconds, then shift. Maybe a little kerchunk when cold, but none when warmed up.

On my '05 using #4 the wait has to be more than a few seconds (like twenty) so not very useful.

Speaking of non sequitor....

Who was talking about clunky shifting????

Oh, I don't know... the post right before mine maybe?

 

[wfooshee]

I didn't get past the cheap booze line. Oops..

 

[deanw]

Well, I have come to two conclusions:

1) You are correct.

2) You are an asshole.

I'm not just an asshole, I'm a pedantic asshole. And possibly that's a step up- someone on ADVRider.com called me a duche-bag. (Yes, I corrected his spelling- I told you I was pedantic.)
Meanwhile, I'm trying to figure out how to mount my aux lights...

 

[SkooterG]

Well, I have come to two conclusions:

1) You are correct.

2) You are an asshole.

I'm not just an asshole, I'm a pedantic asshole. And possibly that's a step up- someone on ADVRider.com called me a duche-bag. (Yes, I corrected his spelling- I told you I was pedantic.)
Meanwhile, I'm trying to figure out how to mount my aux lights...

I had to look 'pedantic' up in the dictionary. So I learned something today. So you are not just a pedantic asshole, but an instructive pedantic asshole.

Me? I'm just an asshole.

And seeing how the originator of this thread is also an asshole, although a wanking Brit one, I think we have now come full circle. :tease:

 

[Abercrombie FJR]

Damn you guys!

Well I never thought I would want to replace my 08 AE so soon. The Granite gray is my favorite FJR color and they don't offer an AE version any longer, but you guys have me jacked up and I may have to claim the first 2013 FJR at my local dealer. Thinking i'll have to stop by in the morning and goad them into uncrating and assembling it up for me.

I find it hard to say, but I think you'll find a pristine 08 AE with 15K coming up for sale soon. I'm going to sorely miss that sweet AE transmission. I love shifting my other bikes but the FJR finger shifter is the cat's ass!

 

[doug5551]

Me? I'm just an asshole.

And seeing how the originator of this thread is also an asshole, although a wanking Brit one, I think we have now come full circle.

Uhhhhhhhh, Skooter. I hate to tell you , but you are confusing this thread, which was originated by Warchild, with this thread, which was originated by the wanking Brit:

https://www.fjrforum.com/forum//index.php/topic/148984-my-2013-fjr-has-arrived/page-1

 

[SkooterG]

Me? I'm just an asshole.

And seeing how the originator of this thread is also an asshole, although a wanking Brit one, I think we have now come full circle.

Uhhhhhhhh, Skooter. I hate to tell you , but you are confusing this thread, which was originated by Warchild, with this thread, which was originated by the wanking Brit:

https://www.fjrforum.com/forum//index.php/topic/148984-my-2013-fjr-has-arrived/page-1

Everybody's a critic!!!

:finger:

 

[RadioHowie]

One wanker's thread...another wanker's thread..... :lol2:

 

[Redfish Hunter]

Skooter, while you are being instructive and pedantic aren't you also being forgetful? I seem to remember that you had decided the VIN on the show bike was unique and not in line with the production bike VINs. For whatever reason I thought you posted that the VIN on that particular bike was special. Or maybe I should apply that word you used on DeanW on myself with Dumb in front of it...

 

[SkooterG]

Skooter, while you are being instructive and pedantic aren't you also being forgetful? I seem to remember that you had decided the VIN on the show bike was unique and not in line with the production bike VINs. For whatever reason I thought you posted that the VIN on that particular bike was special. Or maybe I should apply that word you used on DeanW on myself with Dumb in front of it...

I did declare that prematurely. It seems the only difference on the show bike is that it has the 'Y'. But Fairlaner's FJR's VIN also has the 'Y'. So it seems the 'Y' in the VIN denotes a California model. Which makes sense. Since Yammie corporate is in California, the show bike is most likely a California model vs. 49 state model.

We need more examples, but it seems California models have the 'Y' in the VIN and their sequential numbering is separate and distinctive from the 49 state models.

 

[HotRodZilla]

Skooter, while you are being instructive and pedantic aren't you also being forgetful? I seem to remember that you had decided the VIN on the show bike was unique and not in line with the production bike VINs. For whatever reason I thought you posted that the VIN on that particular bike was special. Or maybe I should apply that word you used on DeanW on myself with Dumb in front of it...

I did declare that prematurely. It seems the only difference on the show bike is that it has the 'Y'. But Fairlaner's FJR's VIN also has the 'Y'. So it seems the 'Y' in the VIN denotes a California model. Which makes sense. Since Yammie corporate is in California, the show bike is most likely a California model vs. 49 state model.

We need more examples, but it seems California models have the 'Y' in the VIN and their sequential numbering is separate and distinctive from the 49 state models.

Who cares? Really. It's a VIN. Each one is unique to it's bike and it has very little bearing on anything else.

 

[Fred W]

Who cares? Really. It's a VIN. Each one is unique to it's bike and it has very little bearing on anything else.

Who cares? Apparently all of the 3rd gen wankers do. You know, the ones who are posting the pictures of their new, low sequence VIN numbers online?

And Odot and Bustanut care because they both want the VIN number "69", and now we know that it's possible that they both can have it. Which is important since it takes two to 69, or so I hear.

 

[gixxerjasen]

Skooter, while you are being instructive and pedantic aren't you also being forgetful? I seem to remember that you had decided the VIN on the show bike was unique and not in line with the production bike VINs. For whatever reason I thought you posted that the VIN on that particular bike was special. Or maybe I should apply that word you used on DeanW on myself with Dumb in front of it...

I did declare that prematurely. It seems the only difference on the show bike is that it has the 'Y'. But Fairlaner's FJR's VIN also has the 'Y'. So it seems the 'Y' in the VIN denotes a California model. Which makes sense. Since Yammie corporate is in California, the show bike is most likely a California model vs. 49 state model.

We need more examples, but it seems California models have the 'Y' in the VIN and their sequential numbering is separate and distinctive from the 49 state models.

I doubt Yammie Corporate being in Cali has anything to do with it. There's always 49 state models and then that one model that has to comply with all the nanny tree hugger stuff in California.

 

[HotRodZilla]

Who cares? Really. It's a VIN. Each one is unique to it's bike and it has very little bearing on anything else.

Who cares? Apparently all of the 3rd gen wankers do. You know, the ones who are posting the pictures of their new, low sequence VIN numbers online?

And Odot and Bustanut care because they both want the VIN number "69", and now we know that it's possible that they both can have it. Which is important since it takes two to 69, or so I hear.

Gawd...That's the most disturbing 69 image I have ever conjured up. Just so you know, its your fault I just retasted my breakfast.

 

[SkooterG]

Who cares? Really. It's a VIN. Each one is unique to it's bike and it has very little bearing on anything else.

Really? REALLY????

:finger:

 

[HotRodZilla]

Who cares? Really. It's a VIN. Each one is unique to it's bike and it has very little bearing on anything else.

Really? REALLY????

:finger:

Hey...Shut it and go back to 69ing with Odot.

:****:

 

[Redfish Hunter]

We need more examples, but it seems California models have the 'Y' in the VIN and their sequential numbering is separate and distinctive from the 49 state models.

Who cares? Really. It's a VIN. Each one is unique to it's bike and it has very little bearing on anything else.

My Goodness Zilla, you seem awfully negative and bitter lately.

I hope you cheer up a little, it is almost Christmas.

I am honestly not that interested personally in the VIN sequence but I can see how somebody who is really into the FJR experience would find it interesting. Certainly there are plenty of things that each of us may consider of utmost importance that someone else would find to be completely trivial and unimportant. My wife for example could care less if I prefer the mainspring housing on my .45 arched or flat. She has no worries about whether I should use CCI or Federal primers. She would be bored beyond tears if I started a conversation about PR2s vs PR3s.

I won't judge what others find interesting using my own goofy interests as the standard.

 

[RadioHowie]

We need more examples, but it seems California models have the 'Y' in the VIN and their sequential numbering is separate and distinctive from the 49 state models.

Who cares? Really. It's a VIN. Each one is unique to it's bike and it has very little bearing on anything else.

My Goodness Zilla, you seem awfully negative and bitter lately.

Truer words have never been spoken. Zilla's panties have been bunched up a LOT lately. I think he's jealous of odot's return.