BwanaDik
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+1 same thing I do. Two piece is a no go though. Also have the "competition" back protector which is a little more awkward but I'm used to it now.
Two Piece versus One Piece riding suits
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Jeff Q
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Maybe one day I'll afford the road crafter but for now I'm stuck with my mismatched junk. I think with properly fitted gear you have good protection without the Zip, heat factor is number one for me where I generally ride. Anything that will make me hotter is a no go. There are some things that you just cant protect against like being run over by a truck, dont care how good your gear is you are going to get messed up. To think some people whine because they have to wear a helmet. The folkes I see on a daily basis in shorts, flip flops and a novelty helmet never cease to amaze me......
Wee Willy
It's bad, you know
Always zip...the dynamics of a vehicle crash can do almost anything (almost any loading and from any direction). The only thing between my soft & squishy and the ugly world is what I wear to ride in and I want it to stay on. Serves the same purpose as the helmet strap for me.
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BikerGeek99
Yeah, it's a concrete corn cob. So?
Good topic, Don.
Mrs. BG and I were discussing this the other day, especially as it relates to Tyler's little get-off.
We've never zipped. We need to check Mrs. BG's gear to see if the zippers will mate up - she's got a Tourmaster Transition II jacket and FirstGear riding pants. My most-of-the-time gear won't mate up - Fieldsheer Aqua Tour jacket has a lil' zipper in the back, but Aerostitch AD1's don't have a zipper. I'm thinking of adding a zipper to the AD1's. My Tourmaster mesh will zip up nicely, but I don't wear that gear as often anymore.
Mrs. BG and I were discussing this the other day, especially as it relates to Tyler's little get-off.
We've never zipped. We need to check Mrs. BG's gear to see if the zippers will mate up - she's got a Tourmaster Transition II jacket and FirstGear riding pants. My most-of-the-time gear won't mate up - Fieldsheer Aqua Tour jacket has a lil' zipper in the back, but Aerostitch AD1's don't have a zipper. I'm thinking of adding a zipper to the AD1's. My Tourmaster mesh will zip up nicely, but I don't wear that gear as often anymore.
Joe2Lmaker
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When I wear pants, I zip.
This morning it was Helmet, Jacket and gloves for the (2.2 miles) ride to work.
This morning it was Helmet, Jacket and gloves for the (2.2 miles) ride to work.
Patriot
Isabella is Lazarus
+1
I've always zipped
I like First Gear stuff fine, but always felt pressure to stick to that brand since the zippers all matched
Just this year I purchased a Tourmaster/Cortech medium climate jacket on sale and have thought about Tourmaster & Fieldsheer as I'm unable to find a First Gear Mesh Tex 3 jacket in Day Glo (Hi Vis) in XL. The idiots discontinued this summer jacket in June of all things.
I'm impressed with the Tourmaster Air Jacket in Hi Vis and am impressed that both Tourmaster and Fieldsheer jackets and pants come with both the male & female sides of the back zipper, so you can sew on the appropriate zipper and be good to go. I was just asking a friend if she would do that for me if I bought the Tourmaster. My Mesh Tex pants can have both the First Gear and the Tourmaster zippers for whatever jacket I'm wearing.
My wife, after recovering from some health problems over the last year, is back on the bike as pillion again, so she warrants my current blue Mesh Tex 3 jacket, and I'm looking to purchase a high vis mesh armored jacket like the Tourmaster. I was ready to purchase a First Gear his vis mesh at any price, but am unable to find one in my size.
I'm also getting an IPhone on a great deal from AT&T in a few weeks when my contract is up. So now I need to be sure there is a waterproof pocket in the jacket to protect the phone.
A number of years ago, a friends "incident" sold me on the zipping routine as part of ATGATT, even though I instinctively felt it was very important considering what we do.
Friend of mine hydroplaned on I-10 between 510 and the twin spans, bike slid down the right lane 200 yards, and he slid down the center lane 100 yards feet first with little injury. Just about ate all the jacket's back pad down to the liner and he felt his bottom warming up as he slid on the damp ashphalt. He said he felt his jacket tugging HARD on his pants, but they never began to ride up. He'd have no skin on his arsh and back, otherwise.
yep, I consider zipping just as important as buckling the helmet chin strap. Make it a habit as soon as you don your jacket and don't let anyone rush you...practice so you can find the end of the pants zipper each and every time so you can stab the jacket zipper right on there...if not smooth when zipping, rub some soap or candle was along the teeth of the zipper to lubricate.
let's ride safe and be careful out there,
Mike in Nawlins'
Patriot
Isabella is Lazarus
I don't believe it will, but the Transition should have come with both zipper mates (it comes with both zipped to the jacket, so probably it's still there. You can have the Tourmaster side sewn to the pants above or below the first gear zipper easily. I'd think anyone who can sew patches to leather can do it cheaply.
The First Gear zippers have smaller/finer teeth than the bigger Tourmaster zipper teeth.
Which brings up a pet peeve, WTF don't the manufacturers in their wisdom standardize on zippers. Course, why don't electronics companys standardize on chargers and plugs. But I digress.
Patriot
Isabella is Lazarus
OH, just remembered...guess it's a good thing to lose weight since purchasing armored riding pants
both my winter and summer pants require suspenders to stay up
I have wide riding suspenders like the ones Aerostich sells, so I guess that's another layer of "protection" to keep my pants on
wfooshee
O, Woe is me!!
Tour Master gear, have always zipped them together. I like that all their stuff comes with both sides of the zipper, so you can sew the other half into something that doesn't match.
My jacket has both the short zipper in the back and the full-circumference zipper, but the pants only came with the small one. I've been thinking about getting the full one stitched into the pants.
My jacket has both the short zipper in the back and the full-circumference zipper, but the pants only came with the small one. I've been thinking about getting the full one stitched into the pants.
Auburn
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The most important thing about gear is to get properly fitted gear. Otherwise it will be uncomfortable and the chances that you will wear it will go down significantly. The other cardinal rule about protective gear is buy the best that you can afford.
I have seen many a road racer wearing gear that fits loosely crash and get hurt. They didn't get hurt from the get off, they got hurt from the slide and the inevitable flipping around that happens as their gear bunches up and catches and then causes them to start to filp and turn violently. Had their gear fit properly, they would have just had a few bruises and scrapes.
I have seen many a road racer wearing gear that fits loosely crash and get hurt. They didn't get hurt from the get off, they got hurt from the slide and the inevitable flipping around that happens as their gear bunches up and catches and then causes them to start to filp and turn violently. Had their gear fit properly, they would have just had a few bruises and scrapes.
charismaticmegafauna
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From another thread (a week ago): "The Roadcrafter benefits from over twice the available alteration options (vs Darien Jacket) I think the factory alteration options (especially for Roadcrafter) can be very valuable for some."
Of course if you're lucky and 'off-the-rack' fits you -- great (lots of options).
Well then, Aerostich has one end of the price equation well in hand....
Aerostich (especially, Roadcrafter) has well researched and quality crash protection devices built-in -- and the "fit" thing again. The factory is in Duluth MN -- even if you can't arrange a visit, they can still custom-build your suit.
(I'm trying hard not to sound like an A/S sales rep.....
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exskibum
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I ALWAYS zip together if my jacket and pants have zippers. Both my leather 2 pieces do and my new Cycleport does. My Joe Rocket mesh jacket also zips onto either set of leather pants (if and when I wear it with the perforated leather pants).
Absolutely LOVE my new Cycleport Riva air mesh jacket and air mesh pants, and with the quad armor upgrade (tri armor for the optional sacrum armor, though), it's probably the most protective gear I've ever had. Perfect amount of air flow through the kevlar mesh and the zipper goes all the way round.
Absolutely LOVE my new Cycleport Riva air mesh jacket and air mesh pants, and with the quad armor upgrade (tri armor for the optional sacrum armor, though), it's probably the most protective gear I've ever had. Perfect amount of air flow through the kevlar mesh and the zipper goes all the way round.
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Khunajawdge
Toto El Mundo!
More CO2 on Suspenders = "Good" at keeping your pants on in a slide as long as they are not elastic!
painman
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I must confess I haven't zipped my jacket and pants but with Tyler's accident it will be part of my suiting up from now on. I ordered the Cycle Port gear with the zipper too. You have to order the zipper with this gear as it's extra and the mesh is suppose to be 10 times stronger than leather.
And of note I remember at WFO 6 Wayne from Cycle Port said most accidents occur to the rider's thigh area from impact from vehicles. Good reason to wear the armor in that area as well. Glad you brought this up Don very timely! PM. <><
And of note I remember at WFO 6 Wayne from Cycle Port said most accidents occur to the rider's thigh area from impact from vehicles. Good reason to wear the armor in that area as well. Glad you brought this up Don very timely! PM. <><
Neil San Diego
One of "...those guys..."
My cycleport jacket is a 3/4 length and as such, didn't come with a zipper. Wayne suggested that the 3/4 wouldn't need it. But as everyone else has said so far, with Tyler's getoff, it's got me thinking. I've been wanting a second hi-vis 1/2 length jacket, and if I do go that route, it will definately have the zipper, and I will use it.
Janet's jackets both have zippers and she uses them religiously.
Janet's jackets both have zippers and she uses them religiously.
dcarver
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Excellent replies, one and all.
It seems that many, like me, have the option to zip but haven't due to it not being thought about or just too lazy to take time. I also notice that all of the 'serious' go-fast guyz, coming from track riding, all zip. These guys have taken the tumble, or have seen others do the slide for life. If they zip, I guess I should too.
What ever happened to the blue-jean, t-shirt, engineer boot, half helmet, have a 6 pack HD days? 138k, no problems. Geesh, guess I've been really lucky.
It seems that many, like me, have the option to zip but haven't due to it not being thought about or just too lazy to take time. I also notice that all of the 'serious' go-fast guyz, coming from track riding, all zip. These guys have taken the tumble, or have seen others do the slide for life. If they zip, I guess I should too.
What ever happened to the blue-jean, t-shirt, engineer boot, half helmet, have a 6 pack HD days? 138k, no problems. Geesh, guess I've been really lucky.
fjrgoodie
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Does anyone have any experieince using any of the Draggin Jeans products?
https://www.dragginjeans.com.au/
https://www.dragginjeans.com.au/
Patriot
Isabella is Lazarus
no substantial hip and knee armor - no goodie
it's the first impact with the hard surface that crushes body parts
(whatta they say, the fall is nuthin', it's the landing that hurts ya)
then ya deal with the sliding along the concrete/asphalt as a secondary vulnerability (I have a skin problem doc)
I wish gear had tail bone armor...and wearing a cup might not be a bad idea (geez, my head is a swimmin')
I've bruised the ole tail bone and it wasn't pretty and didn't feel good for quite awhile
Lotsa of activities involve the tail bone - walking, getting up from furniture, cough/sneeze,
but taking a crap was the worse
happyPuppy
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I wear them in the summer gear and add Bohn wast down armor. https://www.bohnarmor.com/. In the winter I just wear the jeans under my riding one piece suit. They are pretty comfortable, just get the relaxed fit to give some extra room for the armor. I did low side about 5 years ago with a riding jacket , Draggin' Jeans and armor at about 30. Not a scratch and the pants had a few areas through the denim but none of the kevlar was touched
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painman
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I have worn the Bohn gear for years, ie the Adventure pants with the tail-bone armor included. Tight fitting as in no bulk to cause the gear to move around in a fall or slide. I like to wear them when I feel like wearing jeans usually when riding the Harley or shorter rides on the FJR. I recently ordered a pair of the Adventure shorts which has the same armor setup. Tight fitting again, giving support that the LD riders are well aware of and these too have the tail-bone pad. I wear the shorts with just the tail-bone pad under the Cycle Port gear which has all the other armor needed. Works out well especially in warm to hot weather riding. One could order the tail-bone armor seperately and sew a pocket on their current gear if you wanted. This is the only riding gear I've found that includes this piece of important equipment IMO.
Bohn Gear
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