I'm thinking that they may be referring to the primary gears between the crank and clutch basket of the new slipper clutch. In addition to not being able to shift like conventionally straight cut gears, helical cut gears produce an axial load on the shaft under torque, which they'd have to account for in some fashion. Not sure they had designed the original case to account for that axial load, but I sure hope so. I'm waiting for a parts fiche to be released to see if they've beefed up the casting in a part number revision since 2015, or perhaps an engine cutaway of a '16 model at a motorcycle show. Also, I'm imagining the mainshaft and layshaft are different to accommodate the six gears, so that might not bode well for the compatibility of adding a slipper clutch to an earlier generation model.
Gen I owner: Cool, Gen IV already !!
Gen II owner: Cool, Gen IV already !!
Gen III owner: No, it's a 3.5 at best....(you need more than just minor updates like AN ENTIRELY NEW 6 SPEED TRANSMISSION to bump us down...)
As a lucky bastage who hasALL three(THREE OF THE FOUR) Gens currently in the garage.............
IT'S STILL A GEN III
Maybe you could use an airbag in your helmet. I seem to remember some nasty photos of your face ... and then there were also those photos when you crash landed on your face.
you are a sick bastage. May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your bed tonite. That is all.Cool..and since you have ended the GEN argument and convinced us that the 2016 is in fact a GEN III, I guess I can plug that D-air system right into my own 2013 Gen III, right?
No.
You see your 2013 is the 'bastard' of the 3rd Generation FJRs. Lowly 80mph limit on the cruise control. A color that really isn't a color. And no option for the vastly superior ES version. It's an orphan.
However, there is still hope! With all that hot air and wind you blow, you could probably hook up that D-Air System to your mouth and ass and inflate those air bags in less than the 45 milli-seconds the normal system takes!
If I can summarize. If the tupperware is different that signifies the Gen shift.You like masturbating I can tell!Cool..and since you have ended the GEN argument and convinced us that the 2016 is in fact a GEN III, I guess I can plug that D-air system right into my own 2013 Gen III, right?
You can't interchange a rotor or a fork from a 2004 Gen 1 with a 2003 Gen 1. You can't interchange a Gen 2 2007 wheel with a Gen 2 2008. Does that make each different generations? No.
It's easy to find small numbers of changes, but you're glossing over the totality of changes (or lack thereof) in the 2016 as a platform. The redo points that Yamaha engineers reexamined the bike were the 2006 and 2013 model seasons. They stuck the things in wind tunnels and redid...the 2016 freshened some parts.
What's also very helpful for the FJR community of parts hounds is to have a rule-of-thumb for swapability of parts. And in no particular order the biggies as experienced over and over on this forum are things like windshield, seats, wheels, shocks, and add-on farkles. And the wheel one has caused confusion in many folks since it was a very narrow change in an otherwise static model. It's not going to be about clutches, transmissions, and computers.
BTW, I pinged Warchild and he said it's no way a Gen 4. I floated my "3.5" idea, but there was some virtual eye-rolling with that. I think he goes with the chassis/engine/interchangeability of common parts principle.
Edit: Now he's reexamining. He and I already have a $1 bet about interchangeability of the tail light assembly.
It will be interesting to hear Bounce's opinion if he decides to weigh in.
Or yard art...All I gotta say is my 198k gen2 is much closer to being a collectible than the purty new 16 temptress..
CC set at 80 on the interstate on the return leg of a day trip up north. Glanced down and found I was only in 4th. I really don't see the need for a 6th gear. I can take it or leave it. As others have said, real world long haul reviews from actual owners is going to decide the final worth of that upgrade.<snip>I was riding along at highway speed quite happy in top gear, then I glanced at the gauges and was *shocked* to see I was in fourth and still had a gear to go
As a '13 owner, I'll allow it. Aside from the easy (but expensive) ECU fix for the CC limit, I'm afraid he's right.LMAO - there are going to be some repercussions to that statement.... 2013 owners are going to be crawlin all over you about that....
Speaking of Ignacios inter changability....
What is the thought of the new Headlights and Tail Lights transferring over to the previous Gen 3 models ?
Just curious as I know someone else will be asking....
And both years end with a 6. The new FJR is a 6 speed. Coincidence? I don't think so........
