Barbarian Jumper Mod on 06

[TheAxeman]

I just got done doing the Barbarian thing and I gotta tell you, this is probably the best thing that I have done to the bike since I picked it up. It made a world of difference. Almost completely eliminated the herky jerky, neck snapping, spitting, sputtering, surging thing that I've had since I got it. The bike is now beginning to sound and ride the way I thought it should have from day one. So why the farck don't the dealers know about it? For all the bitching and moaning that the dealers must have to listen to, you would think that they would invest the 15 farcking minutes it actually took a lame ass mechanic like myself to do it. I can't believe that I have been driving around with the thing for the last month completely pissed off because it ran like shit. Kind of was making me wonder if I had made the right purchase....

 

[plazma]

i too did this mod. my base settings same as others have reported -10,8,8,11

i agree with others that this is the best thing, and free to boot. i didnt have any apprieciable surge, just a buzzy vibration above 3500 revs, a flat spot between 3500-5500, and a off idle flat spot. this has solved almost all of it. still a little flat off idle, but only occasionally. once i get a more accurate t/b sync tool i think i can get it a little more smooth overall. couldn't be happier for that wopping 15 minutes it took. it really runs nice. have run one tank of gas since the change and havent noticed any real difference in mpg, i reset the avg meter just to see any difference. i can see a loss of mpg, but more because i am throttle happy and having a blast hitting light speed.

be safe all

tony

 

[nitelife]

Ok, you talked me into it. My factory settings were:

5

18

18

21

Bumped them up 7. I thought I noticed a different smell coming from the exhaust after the change. I took the bike down the rode and immediately noticed a difference in the throttle. It is definitely a smoother ride. Thanks everyone!

 

[temp357]

I'm gonna need all of your name, address, and vin#'s as you all have now voided your factory warranty. :|

 

[OhioFJR1300]

Yesterday I had the chance to do the Barbarian - Torch jumper mod to my 06. I also added 7 to all of the factory CO settings. The instructions are so detailed it is really simple to do thanks to borrec for getting the wire pin numbers posted for the 06 models. :clapping:

Sorry to be so stupid, but where can I find this mod for the 2006? I followed all the links here, but the 06 was not covered. Looks pretty simple and seems to be a worthwhile mod. Can anyone point me to the right info? Thanks,

Rick

 

[jimbemotumbo]

Sorry to be so stupid, but where can I find this mod for the 2006?

FJRtech.com is where I found it. Covers pre 06's. The ONLY difference is that you swap 23 and 25, instead of as specified. They are plainly marked on the housing of the wiring harness.

 

[TheAxeman]

Yesterday I had the chance to do the Barbarian - Torch jumper mod to my 06. I also added 7 to all of the factory CO settings. The instructions are so detailed it is really simple to do thanks to borrec for getting the wire pin numbers posted for the 06 models. :clapping:

Sorry to be so stupid, but where can I find this mod for the 2006? I followed all the links here, but the 06 was not covered. Looks pretty simple and seems to be a worthwhile mod. Can anyone point me to the right info? Thanks,

Rick

Just read the first post on this thread.....

 

[Diesel]

Just did mine.

My factory settings were -10, 8, 8, 11 like so many other 06's here.

I added 7 to all.

Noticeable improvement in smoothness.

Great mod.

 

[War Machine]

Gentlemen,

I have read the previous 3 pages of comments & I would definetly like to eliminate the surging/jerky/vibrating responses of my 06, but I have a question (or 2).

I want to install a K & N air filter & eventually will put a slipon or complete (Holeshot) exhaust & Power Commander III onto my 06.

Will the Barbarian Mod eliminate the need for a PCIII?

And if I will still need a PCIII will I have to undo the Barbarian Mod.

This inquiring mind wants to know. Any comments on this?

 

[ionbeam]

Will the Barbarian Mod eliminate the need for a PCIII...And if I will still need a PCIII will I have to undo the Barbarian Mod.

The BM is a one dimensional work around. The PCIII is a dynamic partner that can do many different things for you. The PCIII is the way to go, especially if you are making intake/exhaust changes. You don't have to remove the BM wiring, leave it in place. I would recommend that you put the CO levels back to stock though it is probably not critical as the 5-7 count change is pretty small. The PCIII modifies fuel injection settings with the expectation that the settings are at factory base line.

 

[jimbemotumbo]

+1 Ion.

I've done extensive PCIII'ing on my guzzi and it was a nightmare going from slight mods to more mods and then adding on the PCIII. Took months of sorting. I should have done as Ion suggests. Starting from a known baseline and working my from there.

To minimize time, I'd do the intake and exhaust and then add the PCIII. I found the PCIII didn;t do much for me until all the other changes were made.

Sure was nice to be able to ID a flat spot at a specific rpm and throttle opening and go in and tweak just that part of the map.

Sorry to hijack.

 

[S76]

Ok, you talked me into it. My factory settings were:5

18

18

21

Bumped them up 7. I thought I noticed a different smell coming from the exhaust after the change. I took the bike down the rode and immediately noticed a difference in the throttle. It is definitely a smoother ride. Thanks everyone!

That's what I had for factory numbers too. But if +7 is good, maybe +9 would be better? Hey, if a little does a litlle good, alot must do alot of good right? (I have gotten into trouble a ton of times using this logic, but it is always so tempting.)

 

[GreyGoose]

Just completed the barbarian mod. Already had the throttle body's synced (that were dead on), and released the throttle spring (an 80% improvement). at first ride, bike is definitly smoother at slow speed than before. i'd say those two fixes alone took out 85 % of the herky jerky stuff we've got. On initial ride, i believe the bike is running cooler, but the amount of heat i feel on my legs seemed to have increased (and i know that dosent make sense). Also noticed a different smell from the motor that some have discussed. overall,this makes a big difference and i would recommend them. My 06 settings were the same as everyone elses.

GreyGoose

 

[Luke]

Settings same as above(S76) and added +7. Noticably smoother! THANKS!

And GreyGoose, I noticed more heat on my feet as well. What's up with that?

 

[SkooterG]

You are all guessing. Get a PCIII and get it done right. Over ALL throttle openings and RPM. The fact is, using the Barbarian Jumper to change the settings is primarily affecting fuel mixture at idle, and to a certain extent, low throttle openings at low RPM.

You have a modern high tech machine and your all SWAGGING shit. I don't get it.

Go see this thread: Clicky Here

Click on the link in my post, read Torch's post and actually learn some stuff.

I'll expect a 3 page report due in the morning.

 

[bmwhd]

Ok, you talked me into it. My factory settings were:5

18

18

21

Bumped them up 7. I thought I noticed a different smell coming from the exhaust after the change. I took the bike down the rode and immediately noticed a difference in the throttle. It is definitely a smoother ride. Thanks everyone!

Hmm... I hate to be a contrarian, but my base numbers were also 5,18,18,21 and when I added 7 to each, the bike ran rougher at start up and bogged when I blipped the throttle.

To make sure I wasn't doing something wrong, I went back to the base numbers and re-started the bike. Back to normal. So, I then tried adding 5 to each. Same result as before...rough idle and stumble off idle.

UPDATE: Seems I spoke too soon. Just starting the bike in the garage wasn't sufficient. I went +5 on all and went for a ride. There was a noticable improvement (i.e. reduction) in vibes at speed. Right mirror was much calmer and almost usable.

Stopped after a few miles and added 2 more to each (+7 total) and noticed things got even better. Did 30 miles and found improvements across the board. I recommend this to everyone. :yahoo: :yahoo:

 

[chickey191]

factory settings on my '06 =

-10

+8

+8

+11

mod done - waiting for kids to come home to go test it.

At least the bike started after completion

didn't notice any unusual smell except for the gym socks that I dropped in the garage last week.

 

[bmwhd]

You are all guessing. Get a PCIII and get it done right. Over ALL throttle openings and RPM. The fact is, using the Barbarian Jumper to change the settings is primarily affecting fuel mixture at idle, and to a certain extent, low throttle openings at low RPM.
You have a modern high tech machine and your all SWAGGING shit. I don't get it.

Go see this thread: Clicky Here

Click on the link in my post, read Torch's post and actually learn some stuff.

I'll expect a 3 page report due in the morning.

Not sure anyone's trying to equate the two. The BM mod helps, the PCIII helps more. What's the problem with that?

I've had PCIIIs on several bikes. Great product. However, for the vast majority of us FJR owners that aren't messing with airbox or exhaust, it's overkill. Big time overkill. And +7 isn't guessing, it's gitting the CO where it needs to be using an EGA.

 

[SkooterG]

You are all guessing. Get a PCIII and get it done right. Over ALL throttle openings and RPM. The fact is, using the Barbarian Jumper to change the settings is primarily affecting fuel mixture at idle, and to a certain extent, low throttle openings at low RPM.

You have a modern high tech machine and your all SWAGGING shit. I don't get it.

Go see this thread: Clicky Here

Click on the link in my post, read Torch's post and actually learn some stuff.

I'll expect a 3 page report due in the morning.

Not sure anyone's trying to equate the two. The BM mod helps, the PCIII helps more. What's the problem with that?

I've had PCIIIs on several bikes. Great product. However, for the vast majority of us FJR owners that aren't messing with airbox or exhaust, it's overkill. Big time overkill. And +7 isn't guessing, it's gitting the CO where it needs to be using an EGA.

You used an EGA? That's the first I have heard of that. That would be the proper way to do it. If everyone is using an EGA, knock your socks off. But if everyone is using an EGA, and even more properly measuring each cylinder individually, I doubt you would be getting a standard, across the board +7 fix all. The +7 has always been advertised as a Best Guess, and as some have stated, didn't do their FJR any good. Because each FJR is different and will require different changes. And still, you are only effecting certain parameters, unlike the PCIII which is a total solution. Did anyone read the post I sent them to?

Not sure about your comment of the PCIII being overkill? Don't understand that at all.

 

[bmwhd]

You used an EGA? That's the first I have heard of that. That would be the proper way to do it. If everyone is using an EGA, knock your socks off. But if everyone is using an EGA, and even more properly measuring each cylinder individually, I doubt you would be getting a standard, across the board +7 fix all. The +7 has always been advertised as a Best Guess, and as some have stated, didn't do their FJR any good. Because each FJR is different and will require different changes. And still, you are only effecting certain parameters, unlike the PCIII which is a total solution. Did anyone read the post I sent them to?
Not sure about your comment of the PCIII being overkill? Don't understand that at all.

Should have been more clear, sorry. I didn't personally use an EGA. However, it's been discussed here and on other FJR forums that +7 on all cylinders on average gets low RPM in the ballpark of optimum CO.

My comment on overkill comes from a lot of experience tuning bikes with the PCIII (and it's predecessors). Like I said, a great product and good company to work with. I just feel that for the money, it's overkill unless you're trying to solve a specific problem or address a significant change in airflow into and out of the engine. I just feel that the stock '06 FJR doesn't need one.