jjsC6
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My proclamation to being a good rider is to allow people to understand who it is that is offering them advice. In my case, I actually can quantify how good I am by pointing to my record roadracing. When I read threads offering advice, I find it helpful to know what qualifies the person giving the advice. To offer an example, if Freddie Spencer came on this forum wouldn't it make a difference to you that his advice might be more meaninful than some ****** who has been riding a bike for 6 months and it's a Bergman? (yes, an extreme example, and no - I'm damn sure no Freddie Spencer. Just having a little fun to make a point).Yeah, I knew my comment was going to take some pretty severe criticism. If I came across as a bit arrogont, or whatever, I give you credit for picking up my tone. I've been in this discussion on two different forums in the past week, and I don't mind admitting that I'm getting a little irritated by so many people proclaiming that hanging off is the holy grail of going around corners and if you aren't doing it, you should take up another hobby or at least switch to cruising on Harleys. At this point, I don't remember which forum it was, but someone actually said that in one of the threads.Good luck with trying to use logic. People are convinced that hanging off has made them the next world superbike champion despite the fact that most of them have never been on a race track.
Ummm Lots in there that are pretty general
I hang off, mildly to increase my ability to react. As I stated above I do it when sitting bolt upright would be fine for a given corner and speed.... assuming no problems.. But the extra attention to making it all right, including line, give me the ability to pull hard to the inside, if needed, to avoid that cell phone texting soccer mom in my lane oncoming
I have to agree with ExSkiBum.. It is about doing it and nailing it.. Seldom is it about speed for me.. After I exit a corner and pull hard... I get off the throttle.. I dont care to race from corner to corner.. I like the corner and that is where I have fun.
There are too many personalities and too many different styles, intents, and skill levels for such a general statement
I happen to think that there actually are some downsides to hanging off (for street riding), and I also think that people can have just as much fun in the twisties and be just as fast - at least on street bikes in street riding conditions - as those who are hanging off. I'm living proof of that. So is the guy I ride with every week who owns both a FJR and a Ducati 1198S. Neither one of us does more than a very slight shifting of weight, yet I'd bet that not many people take curves any faster than we do when the conditions are good.
I'm not saying that people should not hang off - I'm a believer that different people will be successful in their hobbies with different styles. I'm not slamming hanging off. I realize that I did sort of imply that in one of my replies, and for that I don't blame some of you for taking issue - my bad!
I would honestly be surprised if anyone here would tell you either hang off or buy a car... That is not usually the tone here.. This group since I have known them are very "Ride you own Ride" oriented.
The only other thing is your proclamation to being such a good rider therefore bla bla bla.. I am sure I can learn from you but I am also sure you would be surprised at the level of riding ability of many of the boards inhabitants herebouts
Remember, if you have to "tell" someone you are fast,, pretty,, smart,, whatever.. then there is a problem... and fast here is both subjective and relative to whom you are speaking to/with..
I can usually spot a skilled rider by the nature of their posts over time.. Then I get to ride with many from here too.. and for that I feel lucky
No worries from me.. I dont take myself that serious anyway.. it is exhausting
To your comment "if you have to "tell" someone you are fast....". This is an internet forum - nobody here has seen me ride, so the only way I know to qualify myself it to "tell".
If anyone is offended, I apologize. Just don't blame me for being offended by people giving me advice who have never done what I've done.
By the way, I wish you lived near me. I think if you knew me in person you'd have a different opinion. I don't take myself seriously either, I don't try to blow my abilities out of proportion and I'm actually a pretty nice guy. Sometimes I just can't help but express my opinions a little bluntly - just like you have in your response.
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