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Don, you forgot to highlight the photo....

THERE'S your Celtic War Hammer.....

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That's a change from BMWs of past, then. Thanks for the update.
No it's not...With 87, the bike will run just fine. The knock sensor will prevent the bike from making full power, just like in most high compression modern cars. The bike can't reach full potential until 89 or better is used.

So maybe they should rank bikes according to the fastest ST using regular fuel. Of course, that would be stupid too.
Well according to the experts here at FJRforum, High(er) Octane doesn't give any more power than the lower grade fuel. We had this run around back awhile ago and the thread went on and on........
That's because the FJR is designed to run on 87, so there's no benefit to use higher octane.

This of course is different if a engine is designed to run on 91 octane.
Don't think we need to go through all this again
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Naw......who brought it up anyway?
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What grade of fuel does the K require?
All Buy Mor Warrantys require 91+ octane. They'll run fine on lower octane fuels, but higher octane lasts longer fer all the time they spend sit'in in the shop. wait'in ta get repaired!
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Must be Woodchuck season!? If not, what the hell hole did you crawl out of?

As shown and told earlier in this post, it's 89. And you don't have to buy any Warranty, a 3 year is standard. Now if you would wood of said the 'Bring More Wallet' statement... I would have agreed.

Must be Friday

 
And the **** he views to get that hammer Up


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HotRodZilla, ShinyPartsUp, Dr. Rich, Niehart and Old Michael would hit that like The Fist of an Angry God! Actually Barry I think that they already did, on the Reuben Run of 2012 eh! jes' sayin' and nuff said!

 
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What grade of fuel does the K require?
All Buy Mor Warrantys require 91+ octane. They'll run fine on lower octane fuels, but higher octane lasts longer fer all the time they spend sit'in in the shop. wait'in ta get repaired!
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Must be Woodchuck season!? If not, what the hell hole did you crawl out of?

As shown and told earlier in this post, it's 89. And you don't have to buy any Warranty, a 3 year is standard. Now if you would wood of said the 'Bring More Wallet' statement... I would have agreed.

Must be Friday
And for the BMW GS Twin of Papa Chuy Viejo, it is 87 octane: So RadioHowie, why don't you just shove your rinky-dink octane chart right up there where the sun don't shine! jes' sayin' and nuff said, ese!

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Okay Mister Don...one picture, allegedly of your tiny Irish flea-stcker and a gas cap, clearly states "Unleaded Premium". The other picture, allegedly of your KLR650 wannabe states "Regular".

So, is it Regular and Regular? Or is it Premium on the Buick and Regular on the KLR???

Enquiring minds want to know!!

 
Okay Mister Don...one picture, allegedly of your tiny Irish flea-stcker and a gas cap, clearly states "Unleaded Premium". The other picture, allegedly of your KLR650 wannabe states "Regular".
So, is it Regular and Regular? Or is it Premium on the Buick and Regular on the KLR???

Enquiring minds want to know!!
What the ****'s up you Senile Old Coot, the 89 sticker is from my K1600GT and the 87 sticker is from my BMW GS Twin; two separate bikes, two separate photos. jes' sayin' and nuff said!

Step away from the Bong RH, or please mail me a few ounces of that Killer Mota you must be smoking! Both bikes do require the fuel be unleaded, if that's what you're asking, ya ButtHead!

 
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Perhaps I am misinterpreting the sticker on the K1600 but it looks to me as though RadioHowie is correct. I am sorry Don but what I read tells me that your BMW wants Premium Unleaded but it will accept the intermediate grade.

I know we all like to argue every point to death but... Really? How much difference does it make if you are buying Regular or Premium? Is it really a deal breaker? Is it going to keep any of us from riding the bike because gas just costs too much?

My ST1300 requires Premium but it is a hell of a lot cheaper to operate than my Duramax Diesel 4wd. The total cost difference between a tank of Premium and a tank of Regular is so insignificant in the grand scheme of things. I cannot imagine lying on my deathbed thinking, "If only I had not spent the extra $20 in gasoline to ride the Million Dollar Highway... I sure wish I had that $20 back!" It is a very small amount of money. And money is no good until you spend it.

If I had spent the Premium $$ for the Premium BMW I sure as hell would not hesitate to run the Premium gas in it. Especially since the BMW is supposed to give up some of its HP if it is fed a lower octane fuel.

 
RH: All I know is that I am the only owner of "Gisele" currently at 24K miles and she has never had any fuel but 89 octane or an intermediate grade in her, in the Mountain States of Utah, New Mexico and Colorado which border Arizona that is 88 octane - listed as the intermediate grade on the pumps in Taos, Park City and Telluride. In Mexico she runs just great on 89 PEMEX Premio, she has done more miles in Mexico than Estados Unidos ese! jes' sayin' and nuff said, eh!

Postscript to Redfish Hunter: Just made a quick call to three fellow AZ Beemers, another 2012 GT and one with a 2013 GTL and one with a 2014 GT - they are all three running 89 octane exclusively! They purchased from 3 different Arizona BMW Dealers: Victory BMW, GO-AZ BMW and Iron Horse BMW of Tucson - received new bike instruction from all three long time Arizona BMW shops that 89 octane is the ONLY BMW recommended fuel for the K16's six banger motor!

 
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Okay Papa, my last take on the matter...I NEVER said your minivan required 91 octane as BanjoBoy said. I just commented that the sticker on the gas cap and the BMW paperwork you posted indicate a requirement for premium unleaded. And granted, while 89 octane gas ain't "super" premium, but rather an "intermediate" premium, it is, indeed a, by definition, a premium grade of gas.

JSNS. :D

 
Okay Papa, my last take on the matter...I NEVER said your minivan required 91 octane as BanjoBoy said. I just commented that the sticker on the gas cap and the BMW paperwork you posted indicate a requirement for premium unleaded. And granted, while 89 octane gas ain't "super" premium, but rather an "intermediate" premium, it is, indeed a, by definition, a premium grade of gas.
JSNS.
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I just went to Western Union at the Chandler Greyhound Station to wire $50 in expense monies for majicmaker to ride over to Winter Haven from West Palm Beach: The purpose for Victor, is to jimmy kick you right square in the apple sacks until you screamed like a little girl (or like BikerGeek Andy!). Vic, best fifty bucks Papa Chuy has ever spent! jes' sayin' and nuff said!

 
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I don't think these three belong on the list:
Kawasaki Z1000SX

TouringTriumph Sprint

GTDucati Multistrada

With their low, non-adjustable windscreens, I don't see how you can consider these 'touring' rigs.
The Sprint maybe, but you're right about the other two, not sport/touring rigs....heck all they did was put some hard bags on that Ninja1000 and "poof" they call it a sport/tourer?? You can do that to ANY bike then!
I just sold my FJR and bought a Multistrada. I have rode close to half a million miles and the Multistrada is the best overall bike I have owned by far (out of about 20 or so). It does have an adjustable windscreen and is a very capable sport touring bike. I would hardly consider the lack of an adjustable windscreen something to keep a bike from being included on this list. The FJR is an excellent bike but it is probably also the only bike on that list lacking a six speed trans.

 
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I don't think these three belong on the list:
Kawasaki Z1000SX

TouringTriumph Sprint

GTDucati Multistrada

With their low, non-adjustable windscreens, I don't see how you can consider these 'touring' rigs.
The Sprint maybe, but you're right about the other two, not sport/touring rigs....heck all they did was put some hard bags on that Ninja1000 and "poof" they call it a sport/tourer?? You can do that to ANY bike then!
I just sold my FJR and bought a Multistrada. I have rode close to half a million miles and the Multistrada is the best overall bike I have owned by far (out of about 20 or so). It does have an adjustable windscreen and is a very capable sport touring bike. I would hardly consider the lack of an adjustable windscreen something to keep a bike from being included on this list. The FJR is an excellent bike but it is probably also the only bike on that list lacking a six speed trans.
I'm betting the Gen-4 FJR will have a 6 speed tranny. Yamaha is a lil slow, but they get there eventually :)

The Japanese techies need to come to Montana (or the likes) and run some roads at a constant 85+mph. They will soon find out there lil 4 banger is humming WAY beyond what it has to. Physics say; the more stokes, the more friction. 'nuff said, they'll be on board, they ride the short bus (yes, along with myself!) :)

 
I don't think these three belong on the list:
Kawasaki Z1000SX

TouringTriumph Sprint

GTDucati Multistrada

With their low, non-adjustable windscreens, I don't see how you can consider these 'touring' rigs.
The Sprint maybe, but you're right about the other two, not sport/touring rigs....heck all they did was put some hard bags on that Ninja1000 and "poof" they call it a sport/tourer?? You can do that to ANY bike then!
I just sold my FJR and bought a Multistrada. I have rode close to half a million miles and the Multistrada is the best overall bike I have owned by far (out of about 20 or so). It does have an adjustable windscreen and is a very capable sport touring bike. I would hardly consider the lack of an adjustable windscreen something to keep a bike from being included on this list. The FJR is an excellent bike but it is probably also the only bike on that list lacking a six speed trans.
I'm betting the Gen-4 FJR will have a 6 speed tranny. Yamaha is a lil slow, but they get there eventually
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The Japanese techies need to come to Montana (or the likes) and run some roads at a constant 85+mph. They will soon find out there lil 4 banger is humming WAY beyond what it has to. Physics say; the more stokes, the more friction. 'nuff said, they'll be on board, they ride the short bus (yes, along with myself!)
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Ever hear of a thang called the IBR? 'nuff said.
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I don't think these three belong on the list:
Kawasaki Z1000SX

TouringTriumph Sprint

GTDucati Multistrada

With their low, non-adjustable windscreens, I don't see how you can consider these 'touring' rigs.
The Sprint maybe, but you're right about the other two, not sport/touring rigs....heck all they did was put some hard bags on that Ninja1000 and "poof" they call it a sport/tourer?? You can do that to ANY bike then!
I just sold my FJR and bought a Multistrada. I have rode close to half a million miles and the Multistrada is the best overall bike I have owned by far (out of about 20 or so). It does have an adjustable windscreen and is a very capable sport touring bike. I would hardly consider the lack of an adjustable windscreen something to keep a bike from being included on this list. The FJR is an excellent bike but it is probably also the only bike on that list lacking a six speed trans.
I'm betting the Gen-4 FJR will have a 6 speed tranny. Yamaha is a lil slow, but they get there eventually
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The Japanese techies need to come to Montana (or the likes) and run some roads at a constant 85+mph. They will soon find out there lil 4 banger is humming WAY beyond what it has to. Physics say; the more stokes, the more friction. 'nuff said, they'll be on board, they ride the short bus (yes, along with myself!)
smile.png
Ever hear of a thang called the IBR? 'nuff said.
tonguesmiley.gif
So what your reassuring is that the Japanese are slow Motha Fawkers?!

 
I don't think these three belong on the list:
Kawasaki Z1000SX

TouringTriumph Sprint

GTDucati Multistrada

With their low, non-adjustable windscreens, I don't see how you can consider these 'touring' rigs.
The Sprint maybe, but you're right about the other two, not sport/touring rigs....heck all they did was put some hard bags on that Ninja1000 and "poof" they call it a sport/tourer?? You can do that to ANY bike then!
I just sold my FJR and bought a Multistrada. I have rode close to half a million miles and the Multistrada is the best overall bike I have owned by far (out of about 20 or so). It does have an adjustable windscreen and is a very capable sport touring bike. I would hardly consider the lack of an adjustable windscreen something to keep a bike from being included on this list. The FJR is an excellent bike but it is probably also the only bike on that list lacking a six speed trans.
I'm betting the Gen-4 FJR will have a 6 speed tranny. Yamaha is a lil slow, but they get there eventually
smile.png


The Japanese techies need to come to Montana (or the likes) and run some roads at a constant 85+mph. They will soon find out there lil 4 banger is humming WAY beyond what it has to. Physics say; the more stokes, the more friction. 'nuff said, they'll be on board, they ride the short bus (yes, along with myself!)
smile.png
Ever hear of a thang called the IBR? 'nuff said.
tonguesmiley.gif
So what your reassuring is that the Japanese are slow Motha Fawkers?!
I'm reassuring that the FJR is the fastest sport tourer. That's wut the IBR proves; the smart riders pick a (5 speed) bike which can go fast fer a long time reliably.

A lot of it is the rider, butt to finish 1st, first you must finish, and that's a tall order fer the fragile, high maintenance BMWs. (The least reliable bikes made)

 
I don't think these three belong on the list:
Kawasaki Z1000SX

TouringTriumph Sprint

GTDucati Multistrada

With their low, non-adjustable windscreens, I don't see how you can consider these 'touring' rigs.
The Sprint maybe, but you're right about the other two, not sport/touring rigs....heck all they did was put some hard bags on that Ninja1000 and "poof" they call it a sport/tourer?? You can do that to ANY bike then!
I just sold my FJR and bought a Multistrada. I have rode close to half a million miles and the Multistrada is the best overall bike I have owned by far (out of about 20 or so). It does have an adjustable windscreen and is a very capable sport touring bike. I would hardly consider the lack of an adjustable windscreen something to keep a bike from being included on this list. The FJR is an excellent bike but it is probably also the only bike on that list lacking a six speed trans.
I'm betting the Gen-4 FJR will have a 6 speed tranny. Yamaha is a lil slow, but they get there eventually
smile.png


The Japanese techies need to come to Montana (or the likes) and run some roads at a constant 85+mph. They will soon find out there lil 4 banger is humming WAY beyond what it has to. Physics say; the more stokes, the more friction. 'nuff said, they'll be on board, they ride the short bus (yes, along with myself!)
smile.png
Ever hear of a thang called the IBR? 'nuff said.
tonguesmiley.gif
So what your reassuring is that the Japanese are slow Motha Fawkers?!
I'm reassuring that the FJR is the fastest sport tourer. That's wut the IBR proves; the smart riders pick a (5 speed) bike which can go fast fer a long time reliably.

A lot of it is the rider, butt to finish 1st, first you must finish, and that's a tall order fer the fragile, high maintenance BMWs. (The least reliable bikes made)
Smoke another bowl? You commented on 'me' saying the Japanese Techs are slow in development, and I also said the Gen-4 will have a 6th gear. Now your back to the topics subject. HS dude, you're a mess!

 
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