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Interviewing Strategy - beginning, middle or end?
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Cav47
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This is gonna be a can of worms that will make its way to the USC eventually.
Likely resulting in the stance that "Pot is legal, but companies can still set their own rules for hiring and firing" Private companies do have a right to state what their requirements or disqualifications of a job (still) in this country.
I was listening to a national radio show the other day that said "Cops just don't care much about weed anymore" Not sure about that as a whole.
As for what not to do in the interview, I have a story.
A few years ago I was interviewing candidates for an assistant coach spot on my staff. One of the last questions I always as is " Tell me about a situation you made a mistake in and wish you could go back and change it. What would you do differently?"
The guy was all but hired because he was an decent young teacher and seemed like he would fit well on my staff.
He responds with. "Well, I never got caught buying alcohol for younger teammates in college, but I regret it and probably wouldn't do it again"
My Athletic Director and Principal who were in there with me turned their heads to him and said "Probably???"
He said "90% Sure I wouldn't do it again"
The Principal stood up and said "Thanks for coming in and we are 90% sure we are going in a different direction"
True story. We still laugh at the 90% thing now.
they might under old company policy. it would be something to consider in an HR/Legal department given the nature of the state law changes. These things typically lag behind the changes in the environment. Companies contracting with feds or on classified projects or those dealing with life and limb (flying, etc.) probably won't change due to the nature of the work they do.
as mentioned above,policy typically is policy. if you hire in knowing the policy, you can be let go for violating it. just like some companies have policies against tobacco use.
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Spud
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A while ago I was screening applicants for a new legal secretary. We had several very qualified, professional candidates. Then this girl in her mid-20's shows up, 10 minutes late to the interview, doesn't know a damn thing about working in an office let alone the law, resume full of typos, arrogant attitude. She was wearing an inappropriately low cut top and a mini-skirt--looked like she was headed to a club, not a job. I took one look at her rack and hired her on the spot.
Pterodactyl
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Did she get equal pay with all the guys with great racks? You pig.
wheatonFJR
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Hudson
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My favorite interview question was asked to me when I was hooked up to a polygraph machine whilst going through a 6 month LEO recruiting process many moons ago.
"Have you ever had sex with animals"?
My answer, though not compliant with polygraph requirements (yes or no only) was:
"Well, I've been with some crazy gals, but none of the barnyard variety."
"Have you ever had sex with animals"?
My answer, though not compliant with polygraph requirements (yes or no only) was:
"Well, I've been with some crazy gals, but none of the barnyard variety."
RadioHowie
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BigOgre
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I got the same one. Answered with, "Dead or alive?"
He wasn't amused. Machine got shut off and I got lectured.
BikerGeek99
Yeah, it's a concrete corn cob. So?
First of all - best of luck on the interviews, Don!
I have been in interviewing hell for the last year. I've been on too many phone interviews to count, and plenty of in-person interviews as well, ranging from one-hour one-on-one interviews to a 2-hour panel interview with 5 interviewers to a 5 1/2-hour combination of panel interviews (2 or 3 interviewers at a time for an hour each), a case study for me to work through, followed by another panel interview and case study results presentation. I have yet another interview this Friday - in New York City. There and back in a day - it's gonna be a long day for sure, but I am confident that it will go well.
Anyway. Enough aboot my interviewing hell. Let's talk aboot yours.
First of all, read up on behavioral-based interviewing it. It sucks, but if you have a list of your accomplishments in your head, you can nail these. For preparation, I was introduced to something called SOAR stories:
Situation
Obstacles
Action
Results
Google it, then sit down and think through situations you have been through and you'll be good. Try to put together at least 20 SOAR stories you could use to answer the shit-tastic behavioral questions. Trust me - after going through a bunch of interviews, you will get very well-practiced at answering the same shit-tastic behavioral questions while thinking to yourself, "Really? Does EVERYone use the same shit-tastic questions or what?!?"
If you haven't already, get the Strengths Finder book and go through the process. You can get the book off Amazon and you may learn something aboot yerself.
Speaking of books, here are a couple of recommendations.
If you are really rusty as far as interviewing goes, consider reading this book - it's an easy read and could help prepare you (note: I have no affiliation with the author blah-blah-blah):
The Essential Job Interview Handbook on Amazon clicky.
And one more book - same disclaimer as above:
Brag!: The Art of Tooting Your Own Horn Without Blowing It on Amazon clicky.
Random stuff:
* Dress for success.
* Get a good night's sleep the night before the interview. If your ass is dragging, you will not be in the right frame of mind to interview well.
* If you are sick, reschedule. Same as above - if you are not physically feeling good, you won't interview well. They will understand.
* If you can, brush your teeth before the interview. It ain't good to have Breath Of Death when you are trying to convince someone that they want you to work for them.
* Leave the cologne at home. While Breath Of Death is bad, smelling like a 1970's pimp is equally as bad.
* Practice your responses in front of a mirror, and look yourself in the eye. While you don't necessarily wanna sound overly 'rehearsed,' you also don't wanna stammer and, generally speaking, sound like a blithering idiot. You know what you're talking about. Sound like it.
* Be early for the interview. Never, ever, EVER be late unless you don't really want the job anyway.
* Relax. You are there because they are interested in hiring you. Relax, be yourself (someone else may have the exact same answers as you, but if they have no personality, you could be considered a better cultural fit in the organization), look 'em in the eye, and smile.
* If you start getting nervous, just imagine the interviewer(s) nekkid. Or imagine nekkid Bust and beemerdons dancing behind them. Whatever works for you.
* Don't be afraid to ask for some water before getting started. You're gonna be talking. Alot. You're probably gonna want to wet yer whistle at some point.
You didn't mention if this is an interview with your current employer or an external interview. If it's internal, hopefully you already have a good idea what they're looking for and, generally speaking, of the culture. If it's external, as was said earlier in this thread, do your homework on the company / organization. Glassdoor.com can be a good source of information on a company / organization that you are not familiar with. If you're not on LinkedIn, get on there. If you are on there, start looking to see if there is anyone in your network (or a friend-of-a-friend) who can offer any advice. Networking is how most jobs are landed nowadays - as the saying goes, it ain't what you know, it's who you know.
And, Gregory? What type of animal? REALLY? I'm pretty sure that if I were ever asked that question, I would politely tell them that I have no interest in working for an organization willing to waste everyone's time with stupid, unprofessional, irrelevant questions like that, and leave.
Don - you should still have my number. Fell free to give me a call if you wanna chat aboot all this.
And, once again, best of luck!
ETA:
* Ask for the business card from everyone you interview with. If they cannot provide their card (why an interviewer would not bring a card is beyond me, but it has happened to me quite a bit), ask them for their email address.
* After the interview, send a follow-up "Thank You" email to everyone you interviewed with. Google "interview thank-you" or variations on that - there are some good suggestions / templates out there. Send your interview follow-ups as soon as you possibly can.
I have been in interviewing hell for the last year. I've been on too many phone interviews to count, and plenty of in-person interviews as well, ranging from one-hour one-on-one interviews to a 2-hour panel interview with 5 interviewers to a 5 1/2-hour combination of panel interviews (2 or 3 interviewers at a time for an hour each), a case study for me to work through, followed by another panel interview and case study results presentation. I have yet another interview this Friday - in New York City. There and back in a day - it's gonna be a long day for sure, but I am confident that it will go well.
Anyway. Enough aboot my interviewing hell. Let's talk aboot yours.
First of all, read up on behavioral-based interviewing it. It sucks, but if you have a list of your accomplishments in your head, you can nail these. For preparation, I was introduced to something called SOAR stories:
Situation
Obstacles
Action
Results
Google it, then sit down and think through situations you have been through and you'll be good. Try to put together at least 20 SOAR stories you could use to answer the shit-tastic behavioral questions. Trust me - after going through a bunch of interviews, you will get very well-practiced at answering the same shit-tastic behavioral questions while thinking to yourself, "Really? Does EVERYone use the same shit-tastic questions or what?!?"
If you haven't already, get the Strengths Finder book and go through the process. You can get the book off Amazon and you may learn something aboot yerself.
Speaking of books, here are a couple of recommendations.
If you are really rusty as far as interviewing goes, consider reading this book - it's an easy read and could help prepare you (note: I have no affiliation with the author blah-blah-blah):
The Essential Job Interview Handbook on Amazon clicky.
And one more book - same disclaimer as above:
Brag!: The Art of Tooting Your Own Horn Without Blowing It on Amazon clicky.
Random stuff:
* Dress for success.
* Get a good night's sleep the night before the interview. If your ass is dragging, you will not be in the right frame of mind to interview well.
* If you are sick, reschedule. Same as above - if you are not physically feeling good, you won't interview well. They will understand.
* If you can, brush your teeth before the interview. It ain't good to have Breath Of Death when you are trying to convince someone that they want you to work for them.
* Leave the cologne at home. While Breath Of Death is bad, smelling like a 1970's pimp is equally as bad.
* Practice your responses in front of a mirror, and look yourself in the eye. While you don't necessarily wanna sound overly 'rehearsed,' you also don't wanna stammer and, generally speaking, sound like a blithering idiot. You know what you're talking about. Sound like it.
* Be early for the interview. Never, ever, EVER be late unless you don't really want the job anyway.
* Relax. You are there because they are interested in hiring you. Relax, be yourself (someone else may have the exact same answers as you, but if they have no personality, you could be considered a better cultural fit in the organization), look 'em in the eye, and smile.
* If you start getting nervous, just imagine the interviewer(s) nekkid. Or imagine nekkid Bust and beemerdons dancing behind them. Whatever works for you.
* Don't be afraid to ask for some water before getting started. You're gonna be talking. Alot. You're probably gonna want to wet yer whistle at some point.
You didn't mention if this is an interview with your current employer or an external interview. If it's internal, hopefully you already have a good idea what they're looking for and, generally speaking, of the culture. If it's external, as was said earlier in this thread, do your homework on the company / organization. Glassdoor.com can be a good source of information on a company / organization that you are not familiar with. If you're not on LinkedIn, get on there. If you are on there, start looking to see if there is anyone in your network (or a friend-of-a-friend) who can offer any advice. Networking is how most jobs are landed nowadays - as the saying goes, it ain't what you know, it's who you know.
And, Gregory? What type of animal? REALLY? I'm pretty sure that if I were ever asked that question, I would politely tell them that I have no interest in working for an organization willing to waste everyone's time with stupid, unprofessional, irrelevant questions like that, and leave.
Don - you should still have my number. Fell free to give me a call if you wanna chat aboot all this.
And, once again, best of luck!
ETA:
* Ask for the business card from everyone you interview with. If they cannot provide their card (why an interviewer would not bring a card is beyond me, but it has happened to me quite a bit), ask them for their email address.
* After the interview, send a follow-up "Thank You" email to everyone you interviewed with. Google "interview thank-you" or variations on that - there are some good suggestions / templates out there. Send your interview follow-ups as soon as you possibly can.
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gregory
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And, Gregory? What type of animal? REALLY? I'm pretty sure that if I were ever asked that question, I would politely tell them that I have no interest in working for an organization willing to waste everyone's time with stupid, unprofessional, irrelevant questions like that, and leave.
I will pass your opinion on to the Pharmacy manager (second in command at our facility) who taught me that question; he has used it for 20 some odd years in his interviewing for the VA. His department has highly qualified, motivated, very professional staff with a very low turnover rate. They are easy to work with and they have a great department dynamic. YMMV.
While I have only had the opportunity to sit on 3 or 4 interview, panels, I have found that I have learned much more about an individual by asking this question then I did by having them parrot basic information easily found in a 10 minute internet search back at me. In my profession (medical, with a few years spent at a level one trauma center), I need to work with people who can think outside the box and can roll with whatever is handed them, relevant (to them) or not. Out of the twenty or so interviewees that I have asked this question, not one has refused to answer the question. Some seemed happy to not have another shit-tastic SOAR thrown at them. If someone feels that they have no interest in working for an organization willing to waste everyone's time with stupid, unprofessional, irrelevant questions like that, I would smile, wish them the best of luck and hold the door for them.
So far it has worked quite well for me, but again YMMV.
I will pass your opinion on to the Pharmacy manager (second in command at our facility) who taught me that question; he has used it for 20 some odd years in his interviewing for the VA. His department has highly qualified, motivated, very professional staff with a very low turnover rate. They are easy to work with and they have a great department dynamic. YMMV.
While I have only had the opportunity to sit on 3 or 4 interview, panels, I have found that I have learned much more about an individual by asking this question then I did by having them parrot basic information easily found in a 10 minute internet search back at me. In my profession (medical, with a few years spent at a level one trauma center), I need to work with people who can think outside the box and can roll with whatever is handed them, relevant (to them) or not. Out of the twenty or so interviewees that I have asked this question, not one has refused to answer the question. Some seemed happy to not have another shit-tastic SOAR thrown at them. If someone feels that they have no interest in working for an organization willing to waste everyone's time with stupid, unprofessional, irrelevant questions like that, I would smile, wish them the best of luck and hold the door for them.
So far it has worked quite well for me, but again YMMV.
Dudewado
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What are you talking about?
Don has a great rack.
beemerdons
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Dudewado, thanks for busting that damned liar wheatonFJR; dcarver was wearing a push up bra at CFR Nakusp, I never heard Marky-Mark complaining then!What are you talking about?
Don has a great rack.
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HotRodZilla
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Don, just be yourself. You'll be fine!
beemerdons
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Auburn
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I live in Washington State where pot is also legal and employers do in fact tell you up front, we drug screen, and you cannot work here or will be fired if you have a positive test result including pot. And that random drug screens are a condition of employment. A few have found out the hard way that just because it is legal, doesn't mean it is OK at work to have it in your system.
I don't see it changing to be more liberal for a long, long, time.
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