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Thank you's and high fives to RFH - the camrodrie that exists in this community is a humbling thing - thank you for reinforcing and extending it

Now this is like the worst cliff hanger ever...

 
Holy cow - direct tv or Dish??

Stickers hell, what about the satellite dish on the top box!
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I only made the comment based on the "Break in oil" comment because of BMW's 17,000 mile oil change policy.
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Glad you guys made it there and back. Bike sounds to be in capable hands.

 
We had a fairly decent lunch in Osyka MS at Nyla's Burger Basket. Sorry, no food ****.
I made it home with 310 miles on the truck for the day. I think I did Patriot some good, I enjoyed it and certainly felt good about it. I hope he is in a better place than he was a couple days ago.

If he is not too mad at me, maybe he will let me do a repeat and I can help him go get it home.
it was a good day...I hope the next phone call from Tylertown, MS is a good call with good news

have a friggin' broken pipe under my bathroom...don't get paid till the 3rd...guess I'll know the plumbing bill and hopefully the bike situation by then to make more troubling decisions

thank you for a great day Mr Crimson Gills Chaser...I would get a bon...have a smile if we get to go pick Isabella up together, especially with the outcome we all wish for here...I might even buy lunch (well, if it's KFC...with a coupon...buy one 2 piece meal, get one free - you know, that most modern installment in McComb, MS)

no food ****...perish da thought...WILD CAUGHT FRIED CATFISH WITH CAJUN FRIES AND COLE SLAW...woo hoo...

(with basset hound side symbol bonus)

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Since you two are getting so familiar with one another, I say RFH takes the ST to pick up Isabella when she's ready. Patriot can ride ***** on the way there.
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You guys haven't actually seen Isabella in person, have you? It's a sight to behold.

Besides - the stickers are nothing. Note the air horn mounted on the right slider.

Yes, that's an air horn mounted on the slider.

heres the problem straight away,how can a bike be expected to run good with ALL THEM STICKERS on it.

stole the wurds right outta my mouf!

heres the problem straight away,how can a bike be expected to run good with ALL THEM STICKERS on it.
Stickers hell, what about the satellite dish on the top box!
Here is Isabella posing with Dolly at NAFO 2010, complete with a tinsel wig hanging from the air horn mounted on the right slider.

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If you really can't wait to find out about Isabella's fate you could always just call the shop yourself, the number's right above the door.

Mike, I'm keepin' my fingers crossed for a simple and cheap solution to your problem. This thread has convinced me to install a manual CCT in my '05.

 
I really like Isabella!!!She is a very beautiful girl..!!!I wish will run again on the roads soon..!!!

 
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Since you two are getting so familiar with one another, I say RFH takes the ST to pick up Isabella when she's ready. Patriot can ride ***** on the way there.
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Not a terrible idea, if you like that sort of thing. I guess you never really know until you try it...
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But, we left the transport trailer in Tylertown the boondocks with the bike. Best case scenario for me, I take Patriot up there, he rides Isabella home and I drag the empty trailer back home while he "Rides like the Wind"... I just hope I can be there to see a happy ending to all this drama.

Oh, and I have NO problem buying lunch, especially if the food is good.

 
OK, we all had some sort of cam chain failure story, I have one as well. You guys are going to laugh at the bike and then you are going to laugh at my questions. After all the jokes and insults though, maybe there will be some good information.

In 2005 I decided I HAD to get back on a bike after several years being too broke to afford one. I bought a brand new '05 Suzuki 750 Katana. I confess that I loved the look of it, the mechanical simplicity of the air cooled, detuned, vintage GSXR engine really appealed to me. My parents gave me a set of soft saddle bags for Christmas and I was Sport Touring! Laugh if you will about the Katana. I could not even dream of affording an FJR or ST1300. I did dream though and all the magazines were reporting the "New and Improved FJR for 2006", but that is another story.

I was determined to get as much good out of this cheap bike as I could and I did the best I could with it. I bought my oil and filter from the dealer. I paid over $10 a quart for Royal Purple Synthetic Motorcycle oil. Toward the end, I was paying them $11.50 a quart. This way the dealer had all my maintenance records. At about 7500 miles I brought it in for a new set of (Oh Boy!) Pilot Roads. When I picked it up they told me my cam chain was rattling. Hell, everything on that bike rattled, the synthetic oil just made it louder. I rode it home, thought about it, researched it, saved my money...About 8400 miles I brought it back for them to install the new CCT. I was told that the cam chain had already stretched too far, the chain had to be replaced. The chain is in the middle between cylinders 2 & 3. The whole entire engine has to come apart. We are looking at $1600 I don't have. I remember I have an extended warranty. Ah Ha! 40 days later, I get my bike back. Seriously. Extended warranty issues, they did not want to pay, blah, blah, blah.

Their diagnosis: The synthetic oil creates a coating on the chain and then fresh oil cannot get in there to lubricate the chain causing premature wear.
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Seriously. What was the oil that had coated the chain doing if not lubricating, I have no idea. I wondered if the synthetic oil might not have been playing well with the hydraulic CCT. I will never know. I thought then, with nothing else to point to, that the hydraulic CCT was not getting enough hydraulic pressure from the lower viscosity synthetic. I will never know.

On the slick side, Dad was already happily riding the '07 FJR I had picked out. Money was better, not good enough for a new Sport Tourer. I got my used ST, traded the Katana, and here I am.

So, NOT turning this into an oil thread, Mike is running Rotella Synthetic. Is there any correlation between the Synthetic oil and the Hydraulic CCT failures?

 
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...Is there any correlation between the Synthetic oil and the Hydraulic CCT failures?
No.

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Wow, that was too easy
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Fluids are not compressible regardless of viscosity, so water would have pressurized the CCT as well as oil up until the boiling point. Lubrication has nothing to do with the hydraulic pressure in the CCT so that doesn't matter. As far as the difference between an organic based oil and synthetic oil lubricating the cam chain -- find out what the dealer was smoking, it was some good ****!

 
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Well it is obvious I agree with you on the competency of the dealer. I had a different bike from a different dealer within 2 weeks of this foolishness.

I also agree about the compression/hydraulics. I had to ask because obviously I have never found the truth about my poor Suzuki. Other than just plain old fashioned component failure, which in the end is probably most likely.

 
So, NOT turning this into an oil thread, Mike is running Rotella Synthetic. Is there any correlation between the Synthetic oil and the Hydraulic CCT failures?

Make that a double NO because Rotella Synthetic, like most oils that are marketed as Synthetics, is actually a Group III dino oil. Its a very high quality oil, just not a true synthetic.

 
So, NOT turning this into an oil thread, Mike is running Rotella Synthetic. Is there any correlation between the Synthetic oil and the Hydraulic CCT failures?

Make that a double NO because Rotella Synthetic, like most oils that are marketed as Synthetics, is actually a Group III dino oil. Its a very high quality oil, just not a true synthetic.
+1.

Redfish, there was a lengthy, sometimes silly, interesting discussion recently in NEPRT on this https://www.fjrforum.com/forum//index.php/topic/150410-lets-talk-shell-rotella-t/page-1 that cleared up some questions for me.

Al.

 
So, NOT turning this into an oil thread, Mike is running Rotella Synthetic. Is there any correlation between the Synthetic oil and the Hydraulic CCT failures?

Make that a double NO because Rotella Synthetic, like most oils that are marketed as Synthetics, is actually a Group III dino oil. Its a very high quality oil, just not a true synthetic.
No, no, you must be wrong because it says synthetic right there on the side! Plus they charge double the price of their conventional oil!
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OK, I quit about the stupid oil, it was just a thought that struck me.

 
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