Setting the Record Straight about Deflate-gate

[HotRodZilla]

Blah..."Deflategate." What are the sissies going to whine about next? "WHAH...The air in Denver is too thin. We can't play there..."

Speaking of bad-*** linebackers, Mike Ditka was definately a stud, but when I was playing ball as a middle linebacker, Mike Singletary was my hero. I would watch Chicago games, just to see him play, and I wasn't a huge Chicago fan. I met him at Baylor in like 1991. He was in the bookstore.

 

[yamafitter]

... but when I was playing ball as a middle linebacker, Mike Singletary was my hero. I would watch Chicago games, just to see him play, and I wasn't a huge Chicago fan. I met him at Baylor in like 1991. He was in the bookstore.

But who was reading the books to you two?

 

[beemerdons]

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tom-brady-sues-over-deflategate-and-claims-innocence_55b9594ee4b0b8499b1848cb?utm_hp_ref=sports&ir=Sports&section=sports https://www.jokes4us.com/sportsjokes/nfljokes/newenglandpatriotsjokes.html Q: What is Tom Brady's favorite letter? A: Sssssssss! (sound of air leaking from a ball)

source: https://www.jokes4us.com/sportsjokes/nfljokes/newenglandpatriotsjokes.html

 

[HotRodZilla]

Hey Don, what would you do if you got convicted of something because your judge thought it was "probable that you were generally aware of some wrongdoing?" That wouldn't fly anywhere. Translated to plain English, that means, "We think you did something wrong. We don't have any proof of that, and nothing we see will change our minds, so we're going to punish you anyway." The first time they said that, everyone with an IQ over 6 knew they were full of ****.

I used to have a boss like that. He was real tough until it was proven beyond a reasonable doubt that he was a theiving liar. **** him and everyone like him.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Take away the points the Patriots made in the first half. Then the Colts can be winners...Oh, wait, no they cant, they got stomped even worse in the second half. Crybabies.

 

[LKLD]

 

[MEM]

What every Patriots fan is thinking about Tom Brady's suspension being upheld

Warning: language! Kind of ...

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/7/28/9064947/patriots-fan-furious-that-tom-bradys-suspension-is-upheld

 

[beemerdons]

Hey Don, what would you do if you got convicted of something because your judge thought it was "probable that you were generally aware of some wrongdoing?" That wouldn't fly anywhere. Translated to plain English, that means, "We think you did something wrong. We don't have any proof of that, and nothing we see will change our minds, so we're going to punish you anyway." The first time they said that, everyone with an IQ over 6 knew they were full of ****.
I used to have a boss like that. He was real tough until it was proven beyond a reasonable doubt that he was a theiving liar. **** him and everyone like him.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Take away the points the Patriots made in the first half. Then the Colts can be winners...Oh, wait, no they cant, they got stomped even worse in the second half. Crybabies.

My complaint against Tom Brady is NOT that he deflated footballs, it is the irrefutable fact he destroyed evidence that he ordered the football deflation!

Here is the overwhelming and valid point that Bob Kravitz and the rest of our Nation's Sportscasters are making: "It wasn’t just that Tom Brady cheated. It wasn’t just that Tom Brady lied about cheating. It wasn’t just that Tom Brady covered up the fact that he cheated and lied. No, this goes even further, and explains why NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell properly upheld the four-game suspension he levied on Brady.

He destroyed his phone.

The same phone he has used since November.

Destroyed it right after he met with Ted Wells and his investigators.

Does he look or sound guilty yet, New England? Or are we going to continue this fiction that he’s the Golden Boy Who Can Do No Wrong, above the fray, above it all?"

I agree with you the Patriots were dominant against the Colts, so it was incredibly stupid of Tom Brady to deflate the footballs. Dumb *** didn't need to!

It's just his constant lying and destruction of the phone evidence which is so childish, TB is a Fellow Irishman: After you get caught, knock off the Blarney!

I can't give you my opinion on being convicted, I have lived 66 years without doing anything I am ashamed of! Well, I have owned five Harley-Davidson's!

 

[Intech]

Hey Don, what would you do if you got convicted of something because your judge thought it was "probable that you were generally aware of some wrongdoing?" That wouldn't fly anywhere. Translated to plain English, that means, "We think you did something wrong. We don't have any proof of that, and nothing we see will change our minds, so we're going to punish you anyway." The first time they said that, everyone with an IQ over 6 knew they were full of ****.
I used to have a boss like that. He was real tough until it was proven beyond a reasonable doubt that he was a theiving liar. **** him and everyone like him.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Take away the points the Patriots made in the first half. Then the Colts can be winners...Oh, wait, no they cant, they got stomped even worse in the second half. Crybabies.

My complaint against Tom Brady is NOT that he deflated footballs, it is the irrefutable fact he destroyed evidence that he ordered the football deflation!

Here is the overwhelming and valid point that Bob Kravitz and the rest of our Nation's Sportscasters are making: "It wasn’t just that Tom Brady cheated. It wasn’t just that Tom Brady lied about cheating. It wasn’t just that Tom Brady covered up the fact that he cheated and lied. No, this goes even further, and explains why NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell properly upheld the four-game suspension he levied on Brady.

He destroyed his phone.

The same phone he has used since November.

Destroyed it right after he met with Ted Wells and his investigators.

Does he look or sound guilty yet, New England? Or are we going to continue this fiction that he’s the Golden Boy Who Can Do No Wrong, above the fray, above it all?"

I agree with you the Patriots were dominant against the Colts, so it was incredibly stupid of Tom Brady to deflate the footballs. Dumb *** didn't need to!

It's just his constant lying and destruction of the phone evidence which is so childish, TB is a Fellow Irishman: After you get caught, knock off the Blarney!

I can't give you my opinion on being convicted, I have lived 66 years without doing anything I am ashamed of! Well, I have owned five Harley-Davidson's!

All of that crap you just posted Don is based on more misinformation that the league decided to leak before any official statements were published. The NFL is a joke!

 

[beemerdons]

Just got a cool Private Message from a Fellow FJR Forum Member, Wicked Beauty and True!

"Here come these ***** with 10 or 12 paragraphs of Masshole rationalization and outrage.
Brady is a liar and a cheat, but he'll still get his ******* from these Punks if he shows hard.
hahahaha!"

 

[HotRodZilla]

So TB used his phone to cheat, so the phone is "evidence?" Yeah, next time I'm at a scene, I'm not gonna take any evidence. I'm just gonna ask the suspect if he'll keep the stuff I need safe for me in his bedroom. That's the STUPIDEST THING I HAVE EVER HEARD!

Here's some info: Cellphone records are only stored for about 90 days. Some carriers more, some less. NONE of them will retain information without a subpoena forcing them to retain it. We can't even look into someone's phone without a warrant. IF that phone was suspect, they should have either confiscated it, using league rules to gain access, or served a civil subpoena requesting its information. Even if there was incriminating information on the phone, did they order Brady not to delete anything? Does that include naked pictures of his girlfriend?

Now, I know someone is going to cry, saying, "Well, this isn't a criminal case, they can't do that. They can't subpoena his phone or its records." ********! Husbands and wife's getting divorced do it all the time to prove infidelity or whatever, in the hopes of getting to keep a $100k house. This accusation is worth millions, and the NFL's lawyers make more in a year than 99% of us will make in a lifetime. That absolutely could have been done, and it wasn't. Why? Because they're either stupid, whuch I doubt, or there was nothing there and they know it.

This is more evidence that social media is the bain of our existence. Everyone running around spewing half-baked accusations and "leaking" information they don't really have. Just like anything high profile, the side with the losing case is trying to play to the media for some validation. They give half-truths and blatant lies, hoping people will jump on board. It's their attempt to taint the jury pool, even if there will never be a jury.

As far as being a TB fan, I'm not. Most of the time I don't give two ***** about football, and have never been a Patriots fan. Hell, until these accusations came up, I couldn't have told you who Tom Brady is, and I sure didn't know he played for the Patriots. It's just that I know ******** when I see it, and I have a hard time not calling people out. Haha...

That, and I'm still reeling over the fact that my friend Don has owned 5 Harleys. Don't know how I'm going to get past that.

 

[yamafitter]

Anyone that would own five Harleys would also hit themselves in the head with a ball peen hammer to figure out if it hurts or not. JSNS.

 

[FJRay]

Anyone that would own five Harleys would also hit themselves in the head with a ball peen hammer to figure out if it hurts or not. JSNS.

But would they be smart enough to figure out it feels good if you stop????

 

[yamafitter]

Anyone that would own five Harleys would also hit themselves in the head with a ball peen hammer to figure out if it hurts or not. JSNS.

But would they be smart enough to figure out it feels good if you stop????

We are talking about a pipefitter here so the answer is no.

 

[Bounce]

Here's some info: Cellphone records are only stored for about 90 days. Some carriers more, some less. NONE of them will retain information without a subpoena forcing them to retain it. We can't even look into someone's phone without a warrant. IF that phone was suspect, they should have either confiscated it, using league rules to gain access, or served a civil subpoena requesting its information. Even if there was incriminating information on the phone, did they order Brady not to delete anything? Does that include naked pictures of his girlfriend?

Well... that's how it's supposed to be under the rules that were established. As we learn more via releases of previously-withheld and gag-order-constrained, we know that's not the case after all.

This was in 2011 and just one example. The equipment has only gotten better.

https://thenextweb.com/us/2011/04/20/us-police-can-copy-your-iphones-contents-in-under-two-minutes/

Then there's "Stingray" so that they man-in-the-middle every phone in a radius without needing to connect physically to the phones in that sphere.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/new-hi-tech-police-surveillance-the-stingray-cell-phone-spying-device/5331165

Anyone without their head in the sand knows this has been the topic of discussion for quite some time. With the Snowden revelations, we learned a hint of how pervasive government spying on its own citizens (with minimal judicial oversight) has become.

 

[HotRodZilla]

Here's some info: Cellphone records are only stored for about 90 days. Some carriers more, some less. NONE of them will retain information without a subpoena forcing them to retain it. We can't even look into someone's phone without a warrant. IF that phone was suspect, they should have either confiscated it, using league rules to gain access, or served a civil subpoena requesting its information. Even if there was incriminating information on the phone, did they order Brady not to delete anything? Does that include naked pictures of his girlfriend?

Well... that's how it's supposed to be under the rules that were established. As we learn more via releases of previously-withheld and gag-order-constrained, we know that's not the case after all.

This was in 2011 and just one example. The equipment has only gotten better.

https://thenextweb.com/us/2011/04/20/us-police-can-copy-your-iphones-contents-in-under-two-minutes/

Then there's "Stingray" so that they man-in-the-middle every phone in a radius without needing to connect physically to the phones in that sphere.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/new-hi-tech-police-surveillance-the-stingray-cell-phone-spying-device/5331165

Anyone without their head in the sand knows this has been the topic of discussion for quite some time. With the Snowden revelations, we learned a hint of how pervasive government spying on its own citizens (with minimal judicial oversight) has become.

Haha....I guess we need to get some of these magical devices so we can stop doing police work. Hell, with this stuff, we should be able to disband our missing person unit.

There's another guy on this Forum that is very into conspiracy stuff also. Those devices are TV inspired and posted up by dingalings. Even IF we could pull that info, no court in this country would admit anything gained from it as evidence. "Fruit of the poisonous tree" and all.

 

[Bounce]

It's not cotton candy cloud hallucinations. Those tethered downloaders are there as is "Stingray". Far too many reliable security sources have reported on them and their functionality.

Just because you don't use them doesn't mean someone else doesn't.

Stingray

 

[HotRodZilla]

Ok

 

[rushes]

An attempt to get back on topic...

It cracks me up all the hoopla about this.

Brady and all of them are laughing their way to the bank.

It's all scripted like wrestling to get attention and boost tv ratings.

Just like fights in the pits with NASCAR.

Where there's money, there's more money if you play along.

Buncha suckers gittin stirred up....

 

[beemerdons]

An attempt to get back on topic...


It cracks me up all the hoopla about this.

Brady and all of them are laughing their way to the bank.

It's all scripted like wrestling to get attention and boost tv ratings.

Just like fights in the pits with NASCAR.

Where there's money, there's more money if you play along.

Buncha suckers gittin stirred up....

Well my Fine FJR Forum Friends we knew this would eventually happen, our Deflategate thread has officially "Jumped the Shark"! JSNS, OK!

When you have an Arkie Goober weighing in on Deflategate, you might as well stick a fork in this thread! So what's next, a quote from "Q-Tip"?

 

[HotRodZilla]

I don't know about any of that, but what I do know is this: Seeing the post from Don and glancing at the YouTube screen shot, I thought that girl next to Ralph was nekid. I thought I saw bare ****s. That shadow or whatever it is on her right **** is placed juuuuuuust right. Haha...I must be tired.