OhioFJR1300
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Any a what these will sell for? Are they going to be FJR specfic or will they work on any H4 set up? I have a Gold Wing that I'd love to add HID to also. Keep us posted on this one.
Soltek HID Light Kit Night Photo's
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madmike2
Shtirrenuppenmeister
Light me up, Skyway! That's as close as I could get to "Beam me up, Scotty! I know you didn't want me to break into....."Yeeewwwww light up myyyy liiiife....." :yahoo:
Warchild
Benevolent Dictator
I believe retail is $599. These will be FJR-specific. No gaurantee whatsoever how they will work in any orther H4 application, which I was stunned to learn.
You would think a H4 is a H4...... but not in this case. The first two "H4" iterations I tested for ElectroSport came off a Nissian PathFinder and a Toyota truck. In those vehicles, the low-beam produced a stunning, razor-sharp cut-off... a beautiful thing to oncoming drivers. Yet, these very same bulbs in the FJR produced a beamcast that was all dorked.
I am amazed as I was disappointed at the difference, quick frankly. :huh:
ElectroSport is now at the point where they are going to purchase a FJR headlight assembly and ship it off to the factory for their engineers to use for creating a perfect H4 Hi/Lo HID system for the FJR. But, again, no guarantees how it will work in any other H4 reflector housing.
Obviously, more to come as the prototyping continues. I fully expect to have a perfect system tested and approved before the Iron Butt Rally. Hopefully, even by mid-late Spring.... B)
Rogue
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Are the Generation I (Pre 06') and Gen II (06'-07') reflectors the same? Or would a new lamp need to be designed for each?
SkooterG
Purveyor of Crooked Facts
Wow!
*******. STOP!!!! What? You think I have bottomless pockets?
A true HID Hi/Low system designed for the FJR? Waaaaay cool.
*******. STOP!!!! What? You think I have bottomless pockets?
A true HID Hi/Low system designed for the FJR? Waaaaay cool.
skyway
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FJRocket
Doctor Throckenstein !!!
Ok, Here's the poop on the 2006+ mirror nuts:
There are NO THREADS LEFT AT ALL.
The rubber (soft plastic, anyway) spacer is .131 (or thereabouts) thick. But it goes over 2 metal collars that seat against the mirror base.
Personally, I'm not afraid to use some loctite on the nuts and have them off the ends of the bolts. I'd rather do that that omit the rubber spacer.
PS: I tried my FZ1 mirrors and the bolt length is the same. So even upgrading to the FZ1 mirrors won't help.
There are NO THREADS LEFT AT ALL.
The rubber (soft plastic, anyway) spacer is .131 (or thereabouts) thick. But it goes over 2 metal collars that seat against the mirror base.
Personally, I'm not afraid to use some loctite on the nuts and have them off the ends of the bolts. I'd rather do that that omit the rubber spacer.
PS: I tried my FZ1 mirrors and the bolt length is the same. So even upgrading to the FZ1 mirrors won't help.
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...and you haven't even made the next logic leap yet. If....and I stress a big IF they work out optimally for an FJR.....would you personally just chuck your PHIDs and only use the high/low HIDs?
Me thinks with an upgraded alternator, and a pre-'06 bike, I'd figure out a way to turn it all on at the same time. Where stock high-beam halogens are about 2500 lumens....one could thereotically have HID low, HID high, PHID/FF200 Aux, and spew out about 15,000 lumens!!!!
...and that would not only be enough to blind Bambi, but make her instantly combust into a fleeing pile of barbequed fur. :yahoo:
stretch
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A friend of mine did another trip to the USA recently, his third now and he told me about the poor lights on cars over there, bikes as well.
Looking at the attached image of the original FJR lights I have to agree that they are very poor.
Is there a reason that lights are so dull over there?
Is it in all states or just some?
Looking at the attached image of the original FJR lights I have to agree that they are very poor.
Is there a reason that lights are so dull over there?
Is it in all states or just some?
madmike2
Shtirrenuppenmeister
Er, IIRC, Bambi was a him.
All states. It has to do with nationwide regulation. We don't want to be blinding the oncoming traffic now, do we? THEY (those in charge of thinking for us...for our own good, you understand...because we might not reach the same conclusion they have) figure that if you can't see with your current light output...simply slow down. Or, as most American drivers: drive by Braille.
skyway
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Thanks for the photo's rocket. There are a couple of options that come to mind on the '06. If I'm understanding the photo's correctly, I'm not very keen on removing that rubber washer, as the light bracket could contact the plastic?
I could look for a fasterner that has a long thin wall that would fit between the spacer and mirror stud or maybe figure out some sort of extension of the existing mirror stud?
Or, I could just machine a small recess in the bracket, to where the mirror will fit inside and leave the .250 thick bracket to surround the mirror. This would still provide plenty of rigidity to hold the light, however I would first need to do a fit check and test ride to confirm.
Nothing is straight forward between different model year bikes. But I'll get it.
I could look for a fasterner that has a long thin wall that would fit between the spacer and mirror stud or maybe figure out some sort of extension of the existing mirror stud?
Or, I could just machine a small recess in the bracket, to where the mirror will fit inside and leave the .250 thick bracket to surround the mirror. This would still provide plenty of rigidity to hold the light, however I would first need to do a fit check and test ride to confirm.
Nothing is straight forward between different model year bikes.
But I'll get it.
skyway
Well-known member
As long as you don't go around scaring little old ladies. Oh, and I'd be more than happy with a rendition of "Bright Eye's".
unk: :lol: 
evilmedic13
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Forgive for sounding dumb here,(it's what I do best afterall). Would our headlights be transformed into HID's w/ this kit? :dribble: Just wondering..................................Nothing to add, as usual.
Warchild
Benevolent Dictator
To avoid continuing to hijack this Soltek thread, I'll answer this in a new thread about these new-generation H4 HID lights.
FJRocket
Doctor Throckenstein !!!
Yes, you are correct.
If the bracket footprint was exactly the same size as the spacer (against the paint), it wouldn't really matter, cause any paint damage could be covered. And the brackets would be very rigid. Of course, the mirrors would be too. Dunno if that would be a bad thing for vibration or for smacking the mirrors back if they hit something.
If you make the bracket contact patch to match the rubber spacer, I'd probably go for it, and leave the spacer out. Be nice to still use the spacer, though. Proably a layer of plastic tape would be helpful on the paint side of a bracket without the rubber spacer being used. I've just used electrical tape under similar circumstances with good results.
I think a thick spacer and extension studs could be a way to go. Dunno how much guys are complaining about '06+ mirrors and being able to see behind their elbows. And also dunno how much lane splitters worry about mirror contact. But I sat my FZ1 mirrors on there and they are quite a bit wider, near the width that it would take to offset the mirrors with a bracket spacer and studs. So if any guys have FZ1 mirrors on 2nd gen bikes and lane split without problems, adding a stud/spacer bracket would be nice. Seems like the logistics of getting this gizmo to work and look right would be pretty tough.
I suppose the idea here would be to make a light bracket that mounts on the mirror receptacle. Then make a mirror mount for the light bracket? Be nice to make the mirrors slightly wider and higher. Yikes, sounds complicated!
Those are some "SERIOUS" lights. To me, the size of these lights are right on the edge of what's right for the FJR. Any bigger IMO, i think it would be too big. They look awesome on the bike, it definitely gives the bike more authority.
Anyway, i just want to commend Warchild and Skyway on this joint effort. Hopefully the mounting of these lights can be sorted out. I have been looking for a while and nothing seemed to grab my attention until i saw this thread.
Count me in, hopefully we will have a group buy soon.
Thanks, Cary
Anyway, i just want to commend Warchild and Skyway on this joint effort. Hopefully the mounting of these lights can be sorted out. I have been looking for a while and nothing seemed to grab my attention until i saw this thread.
Count me in, hopefully we will have a group buy soon.
Thanks, Cary
madmike2
Shtirrenuppenmeister
That's the putpose of this entire discussion. Since his machine shop got flooded by a burst pipe, Skyway has nothing better to do than play with design programs on the office computer. IOW, since he can't do any real work he might as well work on designing farkles....uhm...just to keep his mind occupied.
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skyway
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I showed a friend these lights, and he said he had seen them before but could not remember where. Anyway he got back to me today and said that people are attaching them to their aircraft as approach lights for landing. :dribble: B)
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Sweet! It adds legitimacy to the FJR Pilot's Association credo, "Being confused with a 747 is a good thing."I showed a friend these lights, and he said he had seen them before but could not remember where. Anyway he got back to me today and said that people are attaching them to their aircraft as approach lights for landing. :dribble: B)
FJRocket
Doctor Throckenstein !!!
Which is why I might be interested in TWO sets!!!!!!!!I showed a friend these lights, and he said he had seen them before but could not remember where. Anyway he got back to me today and said that people are attaching them to their aircraft as approach lights for landing. :dribble: B)
