2013 Cruise control: Phooey!

[SkooterG]

So you are seeing red..... Excellent! A or ES?

 

[nankoweap]

No ES for me. Straight A.

 

[CopB8]

So I'm going to fix it and be happy.

Do tell!

Do told.

Getting a 14.

Well, that aught'a learn 'em! You've shown Yamaha you're not willing to take their shyte!

I'm really just kidding. I'm really happy for you. The '14 is beautiful in my opinion. Not $4000 to $5000 more beautiful than my bike but still quite the catch.

Honestly, if I get serious about re-evaluating my biking needs it's probably going to be in a different direction than Yamaha. Right now I'm wrestling with whether I should trade the FJR & S10 in on a KTM 1190R Adventure. Maybe best of both worlds. Ironically it doesn't offer cruise control at all.

 

[nankoweap]

Definitely follow your gut on that one, Bart. I need a spot-tourer in the garage and have been riding an 07 ST13 for the past 6 years until trying on another FJR last year. Now that the FJR is in, the ST13 is out. And I'm thinking of re-evaluating the rest of the garage too so in addition to the ST13 and 2013 FJR I may be selling an 05 GL1800A and the 2012 Super Tenere... You know... because the new Tenere has cruise.

 

[Blind Squirrel]

Definitely follow your gut on that one, Bart. I need a spot-tourer in the garage and have been riding an 07 ST13 for the past 6 years until trying on another FJR last year. Now that the FJR is in, the ST13 is out. And I'm thinking of re-evaluating the rest of the garage too so in addition to the ST13 and 2013 FJR I may be selling an 05 GL1800A and the 2012 Super Tenere... You know... because the new Tenere has cruise.

What is the upper limit on it?

 

[CopB8]

Definitely follow your gut on that one, Bart. I need a spot-tourer in the garage and have been riding an 07 ST13 for the past 6 years until trying on another FJR last year. Now that the FJR is in, the ST13 is out. And I'm thinking of re-evaluating the rest of the garage too so in addition to the ST13 and 2013 FJR I may be selling an 05 GL1800A and the 2012 Super Tenere... You know... because the new Tenere has cruise.

What is the upper limit on it?

Definitely follow your gut on that one, Bart. I need a spot-tourer in the garage and have been riding an 07 ST13 for the past 6 years until trying on another FJR last year. Now that the FJR is in, the ST13 is out. And I'm thinking of re-evaluating the rest of the garage too so in addition to the ST13 and 2013 FJR I may be selling an 05 GL1800A and the 2012 Super Tenere... You know... because the new Tenere has cruise.

What is the upper limit on it?

On the Super Tenere? Not sure.

I really enjoy my ST10 but it doesn't have the turbine smooth big power of the FJR for high speed open road riding (100+). I really enjoy my FJR but it semi-sucks off road and is really too heavy and low for that. I'm a huge Yamaha quality fan so I'm hesitant to go outside of the brand that's been so good to me for the last 13 years. I'll give the FJR/ST10 another year before making a decision though. Certainly no hurry at all.

 

[Warpdrv]

What is the slowest speed you can set the 14 FJR at...

What exactly is the criteria ?!?! has to be in 3rd gear before able to engage it ?!?!

Thanks for your help...

 

[ionbeam]

What is the slowest speed you can set the 14 FJR at...
What exactly is the criteria ?!?! has to be in 3rd gear before able to engage it ?!?!

Thanks for your help...

Directly from the owners manual:

The cruise control system operates only when riding in 3rd, 4th or 5th gear at speeds between about 50 km/h (31 mi/h) and 160 km/h (100 mi/h).

The word about is Yamaha's.

 

[Abercrombie FJR]

Best of luck with the upgrade.

I really am enjoying my 2013, but the cruise issue is a blocker for me getting the FJR where I want/need it to be in the farkling department. I've held out long enough for Yamaha to make a fix available (even one that I'd gladly pay for), but it looks like it's an exercise in futility.
In the meantime, the Candy Red 14 is growing on me and I've decided to fix the issue by buying one. When all is said and done it may be the most expensive CC I've ever purchased and some will think I'm an idiot, but I will be happy. And that's what matters most. Cuz when I'm not happy, all y'all suck.

And there's nothing like a happy idiot.

Best of luck with the upgrade.

Go red Jason! You can join my band-of-one happy idiots who sold a 2013 for a Red 14 ES. It may be the most expensive CC, Red paint and inverted forks I have ever purchased but I couldn't be a happier idiot.

 

[mcatrophy]

What is the slowest speed you can set the 14 FJR at...
What exactly is the criteria ?!?! has to be in 3rd gear before able to engage it ?!?!

Thanks for your help...

Directly from the owners manual:

The cruise control system operates only when riding in 3rd, 4th or 5th gear at speeds between about 50 km/h (31 mi/h) and 160 km/h (100 mi/h).

The word about is Yamaha's.

My '14's drivers manual says:

The cruise control system operates only when riding in 3rd gear at speeds between about 50 km/h (31 mi/h) and 160 km/h (100 mi/h), or 4th or 5th gear at speeds between about 50 km/h (31 mi/h) and 180 km/h (112 mi/h).

So 3rd is restricted to 100, 4th and 5th to 112. It will set above the minimum speed in 3rd, 4th or 5th.



It's slightly more complicated, it will only set at above about 31 indicated on mine, but you can then click the '-' button, and lower the speed to about 29 indicated. To resume, you need to be above the minimum set speed.

I think I read somewhere that the upper limit characteristic is similar (at least for the '13), you can set up to the nominal maximum, but clicking the '+' button will take the speed a couple of mph more. I've not tried it on my '14. Yet.

 

[Warpdrv]

Nice - I was hoping that I could set it around 30, and that answers my question....

Still waiting on the '15 model, but there are a few places around my area where the speed is 25 for a good distance, and I usually run at 30 or so..... anything less then 10 over around us here they don't ticket....

I use my ThrottleMeister all the time and it will be nice to have an electronic cruise.... I may still put the TM on the new bike when I get one, for the heavy bar weights, plus I am so used to rolling on the TM when riding one handed for relaxation purposes....

Thanks for the help guys....

 

[gregory]

I know that it's apples/oranges, but the lowest I can set my '13 in 3rd gear for residential areas (25mph) is 27MPH

 

[Warpdrv]

Is that measured by the on board speedo or is that an outboard GPS ?!?!?

My speedo on my 05 is quite a bit off, almost 5mph at higher speeds compared to my GPS - less so at lower speeds, just a few MPH off but still not as close as I would have thought it to be.....

Thats with new or old tires......

 

[gregory]

Onboard speedo, I will test with GPS later.

 

[mcatrophy]

Is that measured by the on board speedo or is that an outboard GPS ?!?!?....

If you think about it, it only makes sense to refer to the speedometer, since that is the only speed the CC computer can use.

 

[LagerHead]

I really am enjoying my 2013, but the cruise issue is a blocker for me getting the FJR where I want/need it to be in the farkling department. I've held out long enough for Yamaha to make a fix available (even one that I'd gladly pay for), but it looks like it's an exercise in futility.
In the meantime, the Candy Red 14 is growing on me and I've decided to fix the issue by buying one. When all is said and done it may be the most expensive CC I've ever purchased and some will think I'm an idiot, but I will be happy. And that's what matters most. Cuz when I'm not happy, all y'all suck.

Bah, it's your money. Hell, if I was rich I'd probably replace my bike about twice a year.

 

[Warpdrv]

Is that measured by the on board speedo or is that an outboard GPS ?!?!?....

If you think about it, it only makes sense to refer to the speedometer, since that is the only speed the CC computer can use.

Doh - I forget that you guys with those new fancy machines have a digital speedo..... LOL

I just have that silly ol needle style

 

[ionbeam]

Doh - I forget that you guys with those new fancy machines have a digital speedo..... LOLI just have that silly ol needle style

Your silly ol needle style is still ECU controlled. The [Gen I VSS signal] [Gen II ABS ECU wheel sensor pulses] are sent to the engine ECU; the ECU converts the VSS/wheel pulses to a digital value; software with some math converts the digital value to speed; the speed value is sent to the meter assembly where the speed value drives a motor to move the silly ol needle to indicate the speed.

 

[Warpdrv]

That may be - but mine is still not accurate - also from what I was reading that the newer models have more accurate sensors.....

Either way - I smell what your cookin'

Plus - as long as it can maintain a speed around 30 mph, Dats Kool Wit Me !!

 

[nankoweap]

I really am enjoying my 2013, but the cruise issue is a blocker for me getting the FJR where I want/need it to be in the farkling department. I've held out long enough for Yamaha to make a fix available (even one that I'd gladly pay for), but it looks like it's an exercise in futility.
In the meantime, the Candy Red 14 is growing on me and I've decided to fix the issue by buying one. When all is said and done it may be the most expensive CC I've ever purchased and some will think I'm an idiot, but I will be happy. And that's what matters most. Cuz when I'm not happy, all y'all suck.

Bah, it's your money. Hell, if I was rich I'd probably replace my bike about twice a year.

Damn straight. My circus. My monkeys.

Best of luck with the upgrade.

I really am enjoying my 2013, but the cruise issue is a blocker for me getting the FJR where I want/need it to be in the farkling department. I've held out long enough for Yamaha to make a fix available (even one that I'd gladly pay for), but it looks like it's an exercise in futility.
In the meantime, the Candy Red 14 is growing on me and I've decided to fix the issue by buying one. When all is said and done it may be the most expensive CC I've ever purchased and some will think I'm an idiot, but I will be happy. And that's what matters most. Cuz when I'm not happy, all y'all suck.

And there's nothing like a happy idiot.

Best of luck with the upgrade.

Go red Jason! You can join my band-of-one happy idiots who sold a 2013 for a Red 14 ES. It may be the most expensive CC, Red paint and inverted forks I have ever purchased but I couldn't be a happier idiot.

Ya. I've never let my own idiocy prevent me from being happy. Looks like I'll be able to pick up the bike on October 4th. Purchasing from Honda/Yamaha of Memphis. Same place I bought the 13. Reckon I should tell Debbie that she's driving me to Memphis next Friday.