Pilot Road 2 - who's got 'em?

[Scab]

a bucket of ****.

Can I get one of those? To go.

 

[Randy]

a bucket of ****.

Can I get one of those? To go.

I prefer the industrial size portions...wish you could buy that at Costco

 

[cougar8000]

Finally installed new set of PR2 today. They look bitching even standing still on the bike. Just have to find time to ride it now with the new baby and all.

Breadman, it is a quick sale. Safety item. Honey, those tires are the safest of them all.

 

[protondecay123]

Finally installed new set of PR2 today. They look bitching even standing still on the bike. Just have to find time to ride it now with the new baby and all.
Breadman, it is a quick sale. Safety item. Honey, those tires are the safest of them all.

What a great line!! That's what I love about this board.

:yahoo:

 

[jeremyr62]

I have a set of PR2s on my 04 for 4000km. I have just travelled through Germany and took the opportunity to go fast. My bike has developed a scary weave over 200km/h. It doesn't go away if you try to accelerate through it and it gets really bad when you roll off the throttle. I took off my Vstrom hand guards , no difference, I dropped my tyre pressure from 42/42 to about 38/38, no difference. My bike never did this before and I'm not saying it is definitely is the PR2s but the Avons I had on before didn't do it.

Just got the October issue of Cycle World, and there is a recall of Michelin Pilot Power models (page 116). Seems there is separation between layers, causing vibration and/or tearing out of pieces of the tread at high speeds. I just wonder if this is your problem too.

I don't think so. The tyres look fine and I reckon others would have reported the problem with Pilot Road2s. I was heavily loaded; panniers only (no topbox). Tried a top speed run on way back to Ireland while in France but it was impossible as the weave was so bad at 240km/h I had to back off which then made the weave worse. My SH bearings seem fine as do my wheel bearings. I do notice a a slight oscillation in the bars if I push the bike with engine off. This might be tread pattern making its presence felt. I may have a duff tyre as I cannot find anythign else wrong with bike and as I said, with the Avons, it didn't do it.

 

[cougar8000]

Have you check if the balancing weight is still on? I have had this on for the last 300 miles haven't got to a triple digits but at upper double it feels perfectly stable. Bike feels like it has been reborn. Totally predictable in the turns.

 

[squeezer]

Have you check if the balancing weight is still on? I have had this on for the last 300 miles haven't got to a triple digits but at upper double it feels perfectly stable. Bike feels like it has been reborn. Totally predictable in the turns.

I like that advice. I'd check the balance first too. Though to be honest, it sounds pretty severe to me for a balance problem.

PR2's are being put on mine right now.

 

[madmike2]

One of the more erudite and intelligent members (Like Smitty or FredH) of the forum posted about this tire phenomenon some time ago. IIRC, their solution was, after exhausting all other possibilities (steering head bearings, wheel bearings, missing wheel weights, low tire pressure, etc.) was to "break the bead" of the tire, lubricate well, and reseat/remount the tire to the rim. The therory being "during the original tire mount the bead didn't seat 100% around the diameter. It seated well enough to hold air but left a slight "flaw" in the sidewall/tread so the tire would "wander". I know it sounds far-fetched, but.....???

I don't know if this would be THE cause, but if you had a tire machine or the ability to perform the above operation, it might be interesting to try it and see if it solved the case.

 

[Breadman]

I mounted a rear PR2 Wednesday night. I've only had a 2 mile test to the Post Office (will ride 500 miles this weekend) thus far. Holy crap!! My flat spot was making turn-in sooo hard. It feels like a middleweight now by comparison.

6:00 A.M. tomorrow morning cannot come soon enough!! Time to scrub 'er in.

 

[Badcat]

I just got mine delivered a couple of days ago. I'm not quite ready to put them on even though the Storms have developed cupping in the front and the whole bike feels different in a bad way now that they have around 5K on them.

The PR2s sure do look cool.

 

[Lake Powell]

I've had mine on for around 800 miles and so far love them. Had one run up to 125 and no issues with any weave. The only thing to report was that when my dealer installed them the front had about 50 grams of wheel weight required opposite of the valve stem and they still vibrated. I took the front back in and asked them to rebalance, they gave me the wheel back with about 75 grams in the same place, which of course looked like ****. So I asked them to spin the tire a 180 degrees on the rim and then it only took 20 grams and now it runs smooth. The rear took no weight to balance, I could not see if Michelin puts a dot on the tire to indicate the heavy end.

This months Cycle World also gave the tires a favorable review and said wet weather peformance was very good, something I havn't tried as of yet.

 

[Breadman]

My PR2 rear (only one I changed) had NO dot to indicate a light spot. I guessed, but guessed wrong (had to add too many weights) and deflated and turned it 180 degrees on the rim. That made it more gooder. One big clip-on weight, one little stick-on weight.

The new tire is now scrubbed in. I rode about 200 miles today, including several miles of sweepers. The PR2's are very good on dry pavement. I leaned 'er over farther than I had on the Metz Z6's, with no pucker moments. I look forward to trying them out in the rain. I predict popping my peg feeler cherry on the morrow. Doin' the Slimey Crud Run in the Madison area.

P.S. Don't forget to put the twist tie back on.

 

[tstaff]

FWIW;

Parts411 has pricing listed at;

129.33 front

166.25 rear

 

[Wolfhound]

I won't be ordering another set. With 3400 miles mine are shot. No burnouts, wheelies, or tires !

3400 miles:

They will not hold up to higher speeds but may go a long ways at lower speeds - Not for me

 

[tstaff]

I won't be ordering another set. With 3400 miles mine are shot. No burnouts, wheelies, or tires !
3400 miles:

They will not hold up to higher speeds but may go a long ways at lower speeds - Not for me

That don't look like a PR2?

Looks like a Pilot Power to me.

Here are the PR2's

 

[vectervp1]

I won't be ordering another set. With 3400 miles mine are shot. No burnouts, wheelies, or tires !
3400 miles:

They will not hold up to higher speeds but may go a long ways at lower speeds - Not for me

That don't look like a PR2?

Looks like a Pilot Power to me.

Here are the PR2's

Looks like a Pilot Power 2 to me too. I'm not the least bit surprised you only got 3400 miles out of them. Honestly I think you did pretty good getting that many miles out of them.

 

[Wolfhound]

You are correct Sir ! I was sold Pilot Power CT2s, not PR2. Now I can see why they went away so fast . . . .Damnit I waited weeks to get the wrong tire and now feel really foolish after bad mouthing PR2s . . .

I rode back from New Mexico at 60 mph to be sure I could make it back.

BIG misunderstanding from my tire shop, I've never ran Pilot tires before so did not know I was sold the wrong ones, egg on the face moment... :confusedsmiley:

 

[FJRottie]

Pilot Power

Which will not last as long as Pilot Roads.

PR 1s

PR 2s

Caveat Emptor

 

[SkooterG]

You are correct Sir ! I was sold Pilot Power CT2s, not PR2. Now I can see why they went away so fast . . . .Damnit I waited weeks to get the wrong tire and now feel really foolish after bad mouthing PR2s . . .I rode back from New Mexico at 60 mph to be sure I could make it back.

BIG misunderstanding from my tire shop, I've never ran Pilot tires before so did not know I was sold the wrong ones, egg on the face moment... :confusedsmiley:

Don't worry about it Robert. The delaer has most of the culpability here. At least now we both know WHY those tires went so fast. And here I thought it was cause you rode like such a bad-***.

 

[tstaff]

You are correct Sir ! I was sold Pilot Power CT2s, not PR2. Now I can see why they went away so fast . . . .Damnit I waited weeks to get the wrong tire and now feel really foolish after bad mouthing PR2s . . .I rode back from New Mexico at 60 mph to be sure I could make it back.

BIG misunderstanding from my tire shop, I've never ran Pilot tires before so did not know I was sold the wrong ones, egg on the face moment... :confusedsmiley:

I would be a little upset with your dealer, for the $ you put out for quality tires they should have known better.

The squeaky wheel gets the grease!