Always been on all European FJRs, together with the headlamp flasher "passing" switch, which looks like it's incorporated in the headlamp dip switch on the '13. New for the US?
Correct, Gen II were blank. I'd prefer the 'N'. Is that a good enough reason to get a '13?
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What is the source of that quote? If it is the same source that also said "revised gear ratios and overdrive 5th gear, blah, blah, blah..." I would still be extremely suspect that anything is actually different inside.
Well, after riding my son in laws Honda NC700X I have to say that there is a lot of room for improvement in the FJR gearbox when compared to that Honda. It shifts so smoooooooth. When I read Ionbeam's comment I was hoping the new machining on the gears was to imitate that smoothness in the gearbox.What is the source of that quote? If it is the same source that also said "revised gear ratios and overdrive 5th gear, blah, blah, blah..." I would still be extremely suspect that anything is actually different inside.
For one thing, why would they have modified the machining method or the shift shaft at all? The FJR Transmission has proven to be pretty damn solid over the prior decade. The only tranny problems I have ever heard of were worn/mashed gear dogs caused by bent shift forks, not the shaft. Or maybe the term "shift shaft" includes the shift forks for sales/marketing dorks?
What is the source of that quote? If it is the same source that also said "revised gear ratios and overdrive 5th gear, blah, blah, blah..." I would still be extremely suspect that anything is actually different inside.
For one thing, why would they have modified the machining method or the shift shaft at all? The FJR Transmission has proven to be pretty damn solid over the prior decade. The only tranny problems I have ever heard of were worn/mashed gear dogs caused by bent shift forks, not the shaft. Or maybe the term "shift shaft" includes the shift forks for sales/marketing dorks?
Oh man, now I have to show my work? I have read several magazine reviews where they have had 'factory handouts' touting the better'n sliced bread 2013 FJR. Every one has specifically mentioned the new cut gears and changed shift shaft. One article (need to see if I can find it) went into good detail about the change to the shift shaft. I understand about the credibility of some magazines, but when you get the same word for word text from more than two sources it seems to put some veracity to it. (Those that doubt that the light in the 'frig goes out when the door closes won't know for sure until they look at a shop manual or go over to Fairlaner's house and take his engine apart :lol: )
Yeah, but this is our boy Fred!!! Don't even get him started on the Cats in the exhaust! That boy should be living in Missouri. You know, the 'Show Me' state.......
Mother of God SkooterG: First you jimmy kick the poor defenseless Canuckistanis, now you're picking on good old Freddie Bear. What happened? Did RadioHowie take the afternoon off as "Resident FJR Forum Prick of the Day" and let you take over for him???
The reason first is all the way down is to prevent accidentally putting the bike in neutral when it needs to be in first. This is now (obviously) standard on all street motorcycles sold in this country.
Yep, at the bottom on my bike. And I have to say, I've never missed a shift on the AE either. :lol:
I stand corrected. I have never ridden an AE.
... but you can't select neutral unless the bike is stationary, so no possibility of a false selection whilst on the move.
Well... the other thing that has happened over the years is that the magazines tend to plagiarize each other pretty heavily, which is how some of these rumors get so widely spread. But if you (ionbeam) have seen the details on this new shift shaft and gear machining process that would be the kind of evidence that I was asking for. I haven't run across it yet.
