2013 Cruise control: Phooey!

[Iris]

^^^^

OMG!!?

 

[bergmen]

Ran the first limit test on my 2014. I just held the "Resume" button until it hit a wall at 103mph (indicated). Let up and it regulated at that speed.

It's kind of fun accelerating with a rocker switch.

Dan

 

[nankoweap]

I was on my way to work today, looked down and thought, "Hey! I can set the cruise beyond 82 now!" So I did. Set it at 85 indicated and strolled into work. Very nice.

 

[Fred W]

Set it at 85 indicated and strolled into work.

Will it come back for you now if you whistle?

 

[AKjitsu]

Is that measured by the on board speedo or is that an outboard GPS ?!?!?
My speedo on my 05 is quite a bit off, almost 5mph at higher speeds compared to my GPS - less so at lower speeds, just a few MPH off but still not as close as I would have thought it to be.....

Thats with new or old tires......

Finally had a chance to do this. PR2's with about 4.5k on em

Odd that the spedo's on FJR's vary so much, given the otherwise rigid quality control Yamaha maintains (other than the bull shit paint on the 2013's. Bungie, don't even start on me or I'll start talking about your mother's personal hygiene.) Using Garmin as an imperfect but reasonably stable reference, mine shows about 1 MPH high at town speeds, 2 MPH at legal touring speeds, and 2-3 high at realistic touring speeds. 150 indicated resulted in 146 Garmin. (At 4,700 MSL and 97 F that's all she had to give.)

 

[nankoweap]

Set it at 85 indicated and strolled into work.

Will it come back for you now if you whistle?

As a matter of fact.... no. No, it won't.

 

[Ignacio]

Odd that the spedo's on FJR's vary so much, given the otherwise rigid quality control Yamaha maintains (other than the bull shit paint on the 2013's. Bungie, don't even start on me or I'll start talking about your mother's personal hygiene.) Using Garmin as an imperfect but reasonably stable reference, mine shows about 1 MPH high at town speeds, 2 MPH at legal touring speeds, and 2-3 high at realistic touring speeds. 150 indicated resulted in 146 Garmin. (At 4,700 MSL and 97 F that's all she had to give.)

I think It's odd that you think speedometers vary between FJRs that much. I've found Gen 1 & Gen 3 bikes to be consistent as a class personally and read and here that Gen 2 bikes are also consistent with each other. That is too say that they're usually off fairly equally. My Gen 3 shows about 1 mph off in town, several mph off at cruise speed, and 3 or so as it approaches FJR nominal speeds....so largely linear. I find my two Gen 1's to be off a bit more, but consistent with each other and consistent with other Gen 1 FJR owners I've talked with, and posts on this forum for the past 9 years. I don't begrudge Yamaha if things are different between generations anymore than the common knowledge that motorcycle speedos are generally always optimistic.

The large variable remains, as almost always, differences in tires brand, size, etc. A variable Yamaha doesn't control.

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As for the OP, which people seem to be getting farther and farther afield and you even more bitter, I've thought about volunteering my '14 computer to a '13 owner to see if the cruise level changes, but a bit more wary since I have an ES. I'd need to be sweet-talked into it with somebody else genuinely interested as well as having done their homework..or at least willing to share costs if anything smoke-checked on either of our bikes.

 

[CA G-Man]

I think It's odd that you think speedometers vary between FJRs that much. I've found Gen 1 & Gen 3 bikes to be consistent as a class personally and read and here that Gen 2 bikes are also consistent with each other. That is too say that they're usually off fairly equally. My Gen 3 shows about 1 mph off in town, several mph off at cruise speed, and 3 or so as it approaches FJR nominal speeds....so largely linear. I find my two Gen 1's to be off a bit more, but consistent with each other and consistent with other Gen 1 FJR owners I've talked with, and posts on this forum for the past 9 years. I don't begrudge Yamaha if things are different between generations anymore than the common knowledge that motorcycle speedos are generally always optimistic.
The large variable remains, as almost always, differences in tires brand, size, etc. A variable Yamaha doesn't control.

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It's been suggested before (and I think there's some strong evidence in support of this theory) that for some reason the Gen IIIs delivered in Canada have a greater speedo spread than those in the US and elsewhere. I was riding on Sunday since my Hardley-riding companion had it pinned at the speed limit, in my boredom I made a point to note the discrepancy between my dash and GPS speeds. 106 kph indicated on the dash was 100 kph on the TomTom Rider – so a 6% “premium.” Before I up-sized to my 190/55 rear tire the spread was almost double that (about 11%). It’s conceivable that there’s (also) error in the GPS, but based on my speed relative to traffic zooming past when I’m at the speed limit on the dash I tend to believe the GPS much more than the dash.

No biggie for me, but I’m just saying that I’m seeing a bigger dash-to-GPS margin than what you’ve outlined.

Oh, right... the '13 CC issue... Not an issue for me but I hope those for whom it is an issue get it sorted out.

 

[Fred W]

As for the OP, which people seem to be getting farther and farther afield and you even more bitter, I've thought about volunteering my '14 computer to a '13 owner to see if the cruise level changes, but a bit more wary since I have an ES. I'd need to be sweet-talked into it with somebody else genuinely interested as well as having done their homework..or at least willing to share costs if anything smoke-checked on either of our bikes.

I'm not sure that would be such a great idea anyway, Matt. The ES has some firmware to handle inputs that the As do not.

I think the much better swap would be an Aye for an Aye. (Gotta say that like a pirate!)

 

[SkooterG]

Nope. There is no way I would try to put ES ECU into an A model. Apples and oranges. Part numbers are completely different. Nothing may happen, but I wouldn't risk it.

 

[HotRodZilla]

Finally the dumbass says something smart.

 

[PapaUtah]

Latest info is the ECU will be "available for shipment in December"...

 

[SkooterG]

Latest info is the ECU will be "available for shipment in December"...

I was hoping to have one already but it hasn't been working out that way.

 

[stealth1]

This is a worse cliffhanger than "Who shot JR?"

I don't even know why I am interested but I cannot wait to see the outcome of the ECU swap.

I thought I was hi-tech when I got my $19.95 Go Cruise throttle lock.

 

[PapaUtah]

Latest "shipping date" is now 31-Jan-2015...none available in the "warehouse" or showing up on any dealer inventory...might have to start scouring breakers to get one from a totalled 2014...

 

[PapaUtah]

Supposedly my ECU is to arrive on Tuesday or Wednesday of next week. It is finally "in the mail!" Temps around here are supposed to be in the 60's next week. I will plan on testing no later than Saturday...hopefully earlier if my schedule permits. I can see the end of the tunnel...

 

[graler]

This is exciting.

 

[jscasteel]

The Diagnostic Tool looks like it would be pretty pricey to obtain as it comes with some software and other cables to enable multiple different service activities through that port.

List: about $750.

Internet: about $520.

 

[SnowAviation]

...13 Months and 12 pages of posts ago, our hero plotted a course for

uncharted territory, to a land where others have feared to tread. Now

we anxiously await to find out what happened when he plugs in the new ECU:

<insert dramatic sound clip here>

Will the installation be plug and pray?

Will the bike explode?

Will the front wind screen fly off from the extra speed?

Will the increased resale value cause him to sell immediately?

These and other questions will be answered in the next episode of:

"The ECU Files"

 

[Abercrombie FJR]

The suspense is killing me! Oh wait, I sold my 2013, never mind.